The Third & Final US Presidential Debate

enfant terrible

super_furry wrote: »

Hang on? Did he just claim that Obama and Hilary paid people to start riots at Trump rallies?

Ya one of Bill and Hilary's friends was video taped paying people to start fights at rallies.

Story broke today.

Guffy

Emails?? Is he serious?? Worse deflection ever

Enzokk

That sniff....he does it just before he thinks he will make a great point. It came out now before the emails comment.

super_furry

"Donald, you have been accused of sexually assaulting women."

"Nobody has more respect for women than me. They made it up and she had emails. EMAILS."

Duck Soup

Billy86 wrote: »

That line of Trump's about "how I run my company" is going to be used in ads against him. His entire brand is currently tanking badly.

I assume he means he's going to bankrupt the country four times and goose the receptionist.

Billy86

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

But that's just subjective. A trump supporter will say he had her on the ropes.


For the record I ain't saying that. It's just you know yourself.

Nope, not even nearly. Hence the Politico Tweets I'm half spamming the thread with. This is utterly brutal.

As I say this "nobody has more respect for women than I do" to an audible groan from the crowd that Wallace has to silence.

This is absolutely brutal.

Arghus

Trump is losing his cool here. Hillary is beating him like eggs in a bowl.

Billy86

https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/788922562935787520

enfant terrible

Billy86 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/788912884361277440

Is this a Democrat mouthpiece?

She said she supports partial birth abortions plenty of time and fetus has no rights.

~Rebel~

She's doing a good job of just sticking to his character. Prodding and poking at his temperament.

Overheal

Digging himself that hole with that rally violence accusation.

Billy86

EMAILS! PRISON!! BUT BUT BUT... HILLARY!!!

https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/788922418035240960

Rjd2

That was the time to bring up how Clinton has attacked her hubby's mistresses.

Billy86

enfant terrible wrote: »

Is this a Democrat mouthpiece?

She said she supports partial birth abortions plenty of time and fetus has no rights.

Nope, it's a nonpartisan fact checking website just like Snopes.

She doesn't support last day abortions, which Trumps "rip it out" comment was about.

Boom__Boom

Billy86 wrote: »

Nope, not even nearly. Hence the Politico Tweets I'm half spamming the thread with. This is utterly brutal.

As I say this "nobody has more respect for women than I do" to an audible groan from the crowd that Wallace has to silence.

This is absolutely brutal.

How long before Clinton has an ad with Trump repeating "nobody has more respect for women than I do" and his comments on the bus with Billy Bush.

tomwaterford

enfant terrible wrote: »

Ya one of Bill and Hilary's friends was video taped paying people to start fights at rallies.

Story broke today.

If she's implicated as approving this.....makes her unfit for office


No fan of trump.....but she's not better....only saving grace is an interest in taxing people fairly

super_furry

Think she stumbled for the first time there, but Donald was there to make her look better.

"These are people that push gays off buildings." He could try and not look happy about the prospect when he says it.

Overheal

enfant terrible wrote: »

Is this a Democrat mouthpiece?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PolitiFact.com#Reception

University of Minnesota political science professor Eric Ostermeier did an analysis of 511 selected PolitiFact stories issued from January 2010 through January 2011, stating that "PolitiFact has generally devoted an equal amount of time analyzing Republicans (191 statements, 50.4 percent) as they have Democrats (179 stories, 47.2 percent)". Republican officeholders were considered by Politifact to have made substantially more "false" or "pants on fire" statements than their Democratic counterparts. Of 98 statements PolitiFact judged "false" or "pants on fire" from partisan political figures, 74 came from Republicans (76 percent) compared to 22 from Democrats (22 percent) during the selected period reviewed. Ostermeier concluded "By levying 23 Pants on Fire ratings to Republicans over the past year compared to just 4 to Democrats, it appears the sport of choice is game hunting — and the game is elephants."[29] The study was criticized by PolitiFact editor Bill Adair and the MinnPost, with Adair responding, "Eric Ostermeier's study is particularly timely because we've heard a lot of charges this week that we are biased—from liberals […] So we're accustomed to hearing strong reactions from people on both ends of the political spectrum. We are a news organization and we choose which facts to check based on news judgment."[30]
A writer with the left-leaning magazine The Nation argued that findings like this are a reflection of "fact-checkers simply doing their job […] Republicans today just happen to be more egregiously wrong".[31] A writer with the right-leaning Human Events claimed that after looking at Politifact's work on a case-by-case basis a pattern emerged whereby Politifact critiqued straw man claims; that is, "dismissed the speaker’s claim, made up a different claim and checked that instead". The conservative magazine noted Politifact's use of language such as "[although the speaker] used [a specific] phrase […] in his claim, [it] could fairly be interpreted to mean [something more general that is false]". Human Events cited Bryan White's PolitiFactBias blog to state that "from the end of that partnership [with the Congressional Quarterly] to the end of 2011, the national PolitiFact operation has issued 119 Pants on Fire ratings for Republican or conservative claims, and only 13 for liberal or Democratic claims".[32]

flogthebog

Jeez, the saddest version of a woman versus the most pathetic version of a man. It's not worth discussing. They embarrass me and they embarrass you

Billy86

I can't help but notice that Trump has been writing notes for a change in this debate... is he just writing "wrong" and "disaster" over and over again?

batistuta9

Anyone want to give me a quick summary as to what'll happen if either are elected?

~Rebel~

Boom__Boom wrote: »

How long before Clinton has an ad with Trump repeating "nobody has more respect for women than I do" and his comments on the bus with Billy Bush.

And his comment saying the violence at his rally's was all her fault played beside the video of him offering to pay legal costs of anyone that decides to attack protestors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzYv5foyAS8

enfant terrible

Billy86 wrote: »

Nope, it's a nonpartisan fact checking website just like Snopes.

She doesn't support last day abortions, which Trumps "rip it out" comment was about.

Seems like they're going out of their way to defend Hilary.

She supports late term abortion that's clear.

Billy86

Oh look, Trump didn't lie for a change!

https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/788923408834711552

Problem is, he has been given millions from the middle east too - including financial rescue from Saudis.

Overheal

enfant terrible wrote: »

She said she supports partial birth abortions plenty of time and fetus has no rights.

http://www.politifact.com/search/?q=clinton+abortion

Billy86

enfant terrible wrote: »

Seems like they're going out of their way to defend Hilary.

She supports late term abortion that's clear.

Nope, see the post directly below yours that I have just quoted. Liars get called for lies, simple really.

Do you know what late term abortion vs "rip out the day before birth" is?

Overheal

Tantrum mode ACTIVE

Elliott S

enfant terrible wrote: »

Is this a Democrat mouthpiece?

She said she supports partial birth abortions plenty of time and fetus has no rights.

PolitiFact is the gold standard of fact-checking.

Billy86

The tax comments are really, really getting to him.

tomwaterford

Billy86 wrote: »

Nope, see the post directly below yours that I have just quoted. Liars get called for lies, simple really.

Do you know what late term abortion vs "rip out the day before birth" is?

Is there a difference???
Extreme example. .....but it appears America is becoming a country of extremes

B.A._Baracus

I've noticed both parties writing on the podium so far. Guess they have a tablet and giving notes to their team backstage? aka... lets focus on this then the teleprompter gets changed?

Billy86

He just went back on his commitment to accepting the results of the election.

That's a few times now audience members have audibly laughed at him as he speaks. Not with, at. Sad.

Boom__Boom

Car crash stuff on not accepting the results of the election.

Arghus

Trump is unreal: "I'll keep you in suspense."

~Rebel~

Ooof she was VERY well prepared for the "rigged" comments!

Really turned that around well.

Billy86

Oops, there's another.

https://twitter.com/PolitiFact/status/788924895086247937

enfant terrible

Billy86 wrote: »

Nope, see the post directly below yours that I have just quoted. Liars get called for lies, simple really.

Do you know what late term abortion vs "rip out the day before birth" is?

I'll stick to the non partisan websites.

Billy86

enfant terrible wrote: »

I'll stick to the non partisan websites.

If you don't consider the most widely regarded nonpartisan websites like Politico or Snopes as nonpartisan... which are you referring to?

Arghus

Is this carnage over at 3 30?

Billy86

~Rebel~ wrote: »

Ooof she was VERY well prepared for the "rigged" comments!

Really turned that around well.

That was quite the curb-stomp, alright.

Boom__Boom

Arghus wrote: »

Is this carnage over at 3 30?

Yup.

enfant terrible

Billy86 wrote: »

If you don't consider the most widely regarded nonpartisan websites like Politico or Snopes as nonpartisan... which are you referring to?

Never used it, they seem to be only criticizing Trump going by your posts.

Rjd2

Arghus wrote: »

Is this carnage over at 3 30?

Around 3.45 like the previous 2.

Arghus

enfant terrible wrote: »

Never used it, they seem to be only criticizing Trump going by your posts.

That's because Trump talks nonsense!

Enzokk

enfant terrible wrote: »

Never used it, they seem to be only criticizing Trump going by your posts.

That may be for one specific reason though, and not because they are partisan.

Billy86

enfant terrible wrote: »

Never used it, they seem to be only criticizing Trump going by your posts.

I see you ignored the ones that showed accuracy from Trump then. Why is that?

So what websites do you use for non-partisanism?

super_furry

He hasn't even attempted to answer the question. Will he commit ground troops to fight Isis?

flogthebog

Donald, your a laugh

Arghus

He's rallied a bit, she had him reeling there for a while.

Billy86

super_furry wrote: »

He hasn't even attempted to answer the question. Will he commit ground troops to fight Isis?

Surprise & suspense... Donald Trump: The Mystery Box President.

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