The Walking Dead | Season 7 | Episode 1 | The Day Will Come [AMC] [SPOILERS]

DoozerT6

Ugh. I absent-mindedly clicked on the Daily Mail home page this morning and saw who got Lucilled. Their *spoiler* tags aren't very spoiler-proof.

(Not that it was a surprise, the internet scuttlebut saw to that).

I haven't seen the episode yet but I'm liking the limited feedback I've let myself see so far, it seems like it's going to be a doozy.

Regarding Daryl, I've also noticed that he seems to have been quite sidelined in storylines since the hospital arc, but I guess you have to give other characters time in the spotlight too. It's not The Daryl Dixon Show, after all. His character developed nicely from S1, but if the creators have any sense they'll realise that the character is a very firm fan favourite, so if this season is going to knock things up a notch it would be wise to have Daryl front and centre in the conflict. It's what he does best.

I also hope characters like Rosita and Aaron get more to do this season. Rosita has pretty much always just been in the background, and Aaron pops up every now and then and disappears again without trace or mention. I wish they would get some proper storylines and screen time.

Anyway, I won't ramble any more as I haven't seen the episode yet I await with bated breath!

silvervixen84

I flew back to London from Cork this morning so didn't dare check any social media or news sites til I was safely home and able to watch it in peace.

The cliffhanger last season annoyed me so much but this episode was unreal. My heart was racing and I felt a bit ill afterwards and I'll watch anything!

When he chose Abraham I thought Glenn had got away with it, so the second bashing was v clever and definitely upped the shock level. Two great characters gone but Jeffrey Dean Morgan is excellent as Negan - exactly as I imagined him after reading the comics.

Sudden Valley

6

Although I thought the episode was great i still think Negan as a character, and the actor especially, is just too cartoonish. Early days, I know, but I thought the Governor was more intelligently evil. Negan felt a bit like a bond-villain parody leting the rest of them live after what he did to the two of them.
Still the Walking Dead is way more engaging than Fear the Walking dead.

jonski

2

Man , I thought Morgan waaay over acted . As opposed to a villain that I hate , he just annoys me and I thought the Governor was a lot better . The killing of the main characters just seemed to me to be a " look at us , we can kill off main characters too " stunt . The whole episode just seemed to drag on and ends with the main crew down two strong people with no sign of replacements on the horizon . Disappointed overall but thats me done now until the season is over , but I'm not in any hurry to get back to it .

The Talking Bread

8

Sudden Valley wrote: »

Although I thought the episode was great i still think Negan as a character, and the actor especially, is just too cartoonish. Early days, I know, but I thought the Governor was more intelligently evil. Negan felt a bit like a bond-villain parody leting the rest of them live after what he did to the two of them.
Still the Walking Dead is way more engaging than Fear the Walking dead.

He was always going to be cartoonish, and trust me he is far from the most cartoonish thing this season! But I think they balanced it as best they could and all in all he does translate well on screen w/o straying too far from his character in the books. I too feared it could be a bit too much but I have to say his various reactions, humour, mindgames and playacting weren't so over the top to make it silly season.

The Talking Bread

8

jonski wrote: »

Man , I thought Morgan waaay over acted . As opposed to a villain that I hate , he just annoys me and I thought the Governor was a lot better . The killing of the main characters just seemed to me to be a " look at us , we can kill off main characters too " stunt . The whole episode just seemed to drag on and ends with the main crew down two strong people with no sign of replacements on the horizon . Disappointed overall but thats me done now until the season is over , but I'm not in any hurry to get back to it .

Ha, they can't win with some people!! Main characters/minor characters!

Their are tons of replacements! All of the Hilltop are going to be new main characters allied with Alexandria and Morgan and Carol have dovetailed into a new arc with new characters.

skipper_G

7

Just finished watching it there. Initial thoughts are mixed. For the first few minutes I found myself thinking just show me who died already like you should have ended season 6 with. Once that feeling subsided the tension built quite nicely I thought. Glenn's end was pretty messed up I wasn't expecting something as graphic on TV. Love JDM he's got bags of charisma so hopeful his portrayal of Negan gets better throughout the season.
As a standalone episode it was great but not spectacular, perhaps my opinion is still negatively affected by the end of last season and is dragging my opinion down somewhat. 8/10 but probably deserves a 9

frozenfrozen

good episode. wouldn't mind a bit something fresh soon, not just **** hits the fan, move onto somewhere safe before **** hits the fan again.

RainMakerToo

8

Even though I read spoilers this morning, was still shocked at Glenn, maybe more the manner of it... seems a bit pointless last season now though bringing him "back from the dead" just for that

It was a really good episode, maybe too good in a way! I feel like i could walk away from it now and be fine with that :cool:

NUTZZ

8

An alternate death was leaked online;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8gIFaTZRew

intheclouds

Avoided all spoilers and was sure it was gonna be Daryl so great shock that it was Abe then Glenn.

I do think TWD is getting a bit rinse and repeat though. Another psychopath leader, another group to wage war on.

Thought the governor was a much better villain, so cultured, so polite. And of course such a great actor. The awful shame that he had a good vision but was crazy.

Whereas Negan, while a great bag of charm, dimples and psycho, is just an animal who enjoys a bit of torture porn.

In saying that, it's rare that TWD delivers, and it did. It was a great way for Glenn to go too, a heros death.

So, odds on Maggie taking Negan out? Or maybe Carol/Morgan?

ricero

6

The bit with rick and the zombies was not needed imo. Made the episode a bit to bloated

rosser44

9

What an episode. Glen getting Lucielle'd was tough to watch, but the Rick Coral scene was the most tense and uncomfortable TV I've seen in a good while. Thats Andrew Lincolns Emmy in the bag for sure.

Mr.Nice Guy

2

Wow that was very tough to watch - because it was so poorly done.

They actually kept fans waiting for the reveal in the opening minutes which had to be a rib at the audience's expense.

Very silly and unbelievable that Rick would make threats after just seeing his friends get killed in front of him and with his son nearby. I know the show loves cliches but that was OTT Hollywood nonsense where the hero has to swear to the villain that he will get his revenge.

And then we get to the villain: Negan. Big bad Negan or as I like to call him, Austin Tatious. Could his mannerisms and behaviour be any more hokey and pretentious? Forget the bat and the axe, he possesses something even more dangerous – horrendous overacting. Never mind the group, he can take out a quarter of the audience with that - and I expect him to.

The preening, the fanning around, it's like he's trying to channel a cross between Robert Downey Junior's Iron Man meets Heath Ledger's Joker but it's just coming across as Jim Carrey's The Mask meets a part-time salsa dancer who takes amateur dramatics on weekends. Absolutely no menace here. This was typified by the scene ripped straight out of Saw. It would have been better if Rick was not told that Karl would be killed unless Rick acted - the way it was done meant there was no real jeopardy.

As for the big reveal that we waited for, when I saw Abraham get clobbered I was fixing to prepare a minus score...but they redeemed themselves somewhat by bumping off the awful Glenn. I liked him in the early seasons but he had become too much in recent times. It took a half a season too long to get rid of him but at least they did it and I have to give a few marks for that.

I'll give it a 3. It could have been higher if there had been a better actor instead of Austin Tatious ruining everything.

HighLine

9

To save myself writing a lengthy review.. it's just the opposite of the entire post above ^^

What a fantastic episode - the suspense, the tension, the acting, the imagery. 10 out of 10 for me.

johnruns

9

HighLine wrote: »

To save myself writing a lengthy review.. it's just the opposite of the entire post above ^^

What a fantastic episode - the suspense, the tension, the acting, the imagery. 10 out of 10 for me.

+100 fantastic episode

Zero-Cool

9

Absolutely brilliant! I always thought Negan was a bit too cartoony in the comic and would never work on tv but I think AMC nailed Negan.... With a bat full of nails. I was fully sure Carl would be going handless as a nice twist from the comic.

Seriously needs more Simon. Actually I think Steven Ogg would have made a brilliant Negan.

Flippyfloppy

Negan and Simon....I like em I gotta say

mrkiscool2

3

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Absolutely brilliant! I always thought Negan was a bit too cartoony in the comic and would never work on tv but I think AMC nailed Negan.... With a bat full of nails. I was fully sure Carl would be going handless as a nice twist from the comic.

Seriously needs more Simon. Actually I think Steven Ogg would have made a brilliant Negan.

Don't agree with that at all. Steven Ogg is such a different personality as an actor than to what we need from Negan. I actually think JDM is a fantastic Negan, he definitely has that smile down.

rizzodun

2

That episode shows how far the show has fallen in the last two years, from a show with strong storytelling and character development it's now just chugging along with cynicism and cheap parlour tricks, last season whole premise was the 'will they/won't they' introduce Negan and this first episode they wait over 20 minutes to show who he actually killed, only for you to be tricked into thinking it's Abraham (let's face it, a minor character) before taking Glenn down too, the whole arm chopping scene was a complete load of crap too, they failed in my opinion to show Rick and the group being truly broken by Negan's antics, I have no problem with gore in movies and TV, but they played it out like a cheap version of one of the saw movies.

How fitting that Jeffrey Dean Morgans last comic book based part was Watchmen, which was accused of the exact same failure of accurately conveying the message of the comics and resorting to cheap gore and violence, for him to be inflicted with the same thing in this show.

Monife

9

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Wow that was very tough to watch - because it was so poorly done.

They actually kept fans waiting for the reveal in the opening minutes which had to be a rib at the audience's expense.

Very silly and unbelievable that Rick would make threats after just seeing his friends get killed in front of him and with his son nearby. I know the show loves cliches but that was OTT Hollywood nonsense where the hero has to swear to the villain that he will get his revenge.

And then we get to the villain: Negan. Big bad Negan or as I like to call him, Austin Tatious. Could his mannerisms and behaviour be any more hokey and pretentious? Forget the bat and the axe, he possesses something even more dangerous – horrendous overacting. Never mind the group, he can take out a quarter of the audience with that - and I expect him to.

The preening, the fanning around, it's like he's trying to channel a cross between Robert Downey Junior's Iron Man meets Heath Ledger's Joker but it's just coming across as Jim Carrey's The Mask meets a part-time salsa dancer who takes amateur dramatics on weekends. Absolutely no menace here. This was typified by the scene ripped straight out of Saw. It would have been better if Rick was not told that Karl would be killed unless Rick acted - the way it was done meant there was no real jeopardy.

As for the big reveal that we waited for, when I saw Abraham get clobbered I was fixing to prepare a minus score...but they redeemed themselves somewhat by bumping off the awful Glenn. I liked him in the early seasons but he had become too much in recent times. It took a half a season too long to get rid of him but at least they did it and I have to give a few marks for that.

I'll give it a 3. It could have been higher if there had been a better actor instead of Austin Tatious ruining everything.

Well you can't please everyone, you're seriously in the minority, why do you even watch this show when all you have is negative criticism?!

Absolutely brilliant episode, best in a long time, 10 out of 10!! Jaw to the floor a few times, can't wait for the next one!

speckled_park

6

I'm caught in two minds about the episode, it was good but certainly not 10/10 imo. Felt too drawn out. idk can't phrase it any better!

rodneyTrotter.

9

Wow , glued to it tonight . The scene with Glen was horrific and certainly wasnt expected .
The best episode I've seen since the very first one that got me hooked.
Hope that standard keeps up.

FortuneChip

Jeffery Dean Morgan was brilliant.
Andrew Lincoln good again (even if we've seen him be broken before - yes, we have)

The hits were great. I loved the lack of suspense leading to Glens. No nursery rhymes, just "F*ck this!"

Definitely wouldn't be calling this one of the best episodes though.

Rick's flashes of everyone meeting Lucille were annoying, he knew who was dead and it served as nothing other than a ploy to keep us guessing for longer despite being set after the act (I won't buy "but he was imaging what else Negan might do" why show Glen & Abe again? Cheap, and needless given the S6 finale).
The character flashbacks were also really cheap. Just dig out any 3 frames, and mash them together, sound.
Fairly cool of Daryl, on death's door last time we saw him, plucking up the courage to throw the all important dig.

Feel they're a bit snookered when they go back to Alexandria as well. We'll either see the team broken (making for some painful TV), or show them plotting revenge (BAU).

I imagine we'll be off to Carol & Morgan though, so that should help Dodgers recover.

bazz26

9

Negan makes the Governor look like Peewee Herman. $hit just got real.

Blazer

6

2 of the writers were on some show as Season 6 finale aired and they were genuinely shocked by the abuse they got as people ranted about how it ended. I guess they thought they were so smart and it backfired badly on them. Yet they didn't learn anything from it. 20 mins to figure out who died. They should have finished Season 6 with Abe's death and 5 mins into season 7 killed off Glenn but no... the gimps just cannot resist the same old tired cliches. I still love the show but fear a repeat of Dexter where it goes rapidly downhill to the end.

mzungu

Great episode. Thankfully managed to avoid spoilers.

Poor Glen, not even a dumpster could save him from Lucille!

CramCycle

6

Everything about the episode was good and well made but somehow it trajically failed to be even the sum of it's parts.

Flashbacks, if necessary, were poorly done. Abe should have been shown at the beginning and then the reveal of Glenn. Would have made sense, because, let's face it, we would have all been bitching about the over acting from Rick until we knew Glenn was gone.

Simon was great, my daughter just kept commenting on GTAV. Negan was also good, because, well, my family have never hated someone as much so quickly.

Somehow despite all the good bits that would have done great as a part of any other season, it just didn't do the job as well as it should have. It had the potential to be in the top 5 episodes, lucky if it made the top 20.

It dragged onto long, alot of it was pointless and nonsensical. Even without having read the comics, that was half an episode with a load of polyfilla in it.

MadYaker

I figured a few major characters were gonna get bumped off. Didn't like the way they dragged it out though. The Neegan character is annoying, the way he talks and sneers. The whole setup he has going with his crew is a bit hard to get your head around. If that's their method of induction it's hard to see how he has so many people apparently prepared to submit themselves to his totalitarian rule. I look forward to the episode where rick bashes his head in.

Tigger

mrkiscool2 wrote: »

Jesus fcuking Christ. Don't read this if you haven't seen this yet right!


I hated this episode, absolutely despised it. There are so many good things in it to be honest, but the way they executed the killings (should have been killing, but of course not, cause fcuk the comic book fans right?) and the aftermath ruined this episode for me.

Positives before I move into the actual reason I hated the episode

• The suspense was actually good, I really enjoyed it. Getting the POV from Rick was very good indeed.
• The trip in the RV with Negan trying to break Rick was good (we'll talk more about that soon, it was nothing on the comic)
• The actors were brilliant. Negan was fantastic once again.

Now, onto to the negatives. What the actual fcuk was that? Firstly, they killed off one of the most interesting characters in the whole thing. Abraham in the show vs Abraham in the comics is so different. I was always indifferent to Abraham in the comics but I loved him in the show. He was absolutely amazing, Michael was an amazing actor and he was so interesting, they could have done so much with him. But no, lets just kill him off when he starts to get good, especially when there are so many other sh1tty characters there! Sure tis grand!

Secondly, the reason that this is such an iconic moment in the comics is that it is so brutal and such a huge blow to the gang that there is no need for anything else! Dragging Rick away to make him break, having him pick up the axe to chop off Carl's arm, it actually isn't needed in the comics, because Rick realises he is powerless and can do nothing. That's what makes it so iconic (as well as Glenn's eyeball popping out, which I am glad they kept in, and his mushed head after, which I am also glad they stayed in). But they couldn't do that, noooo, they couldn't follow what is one of the most iconic comic moments of all time (up there with Doomsday killing Superman, all of the Killing Joke etc) and just keep it the way it was. Fcuk that! It's so easy to follow!

And then, they don't keep in another extremely iconic moment. Maggie smacking Rick in the face and calling him a coward. That adds even more poignancy to the moment, but of course they leave that out. Blah

The thing is, it should have been a great episode. There are a lot of things I like, but they over-used the moment, went about things the completely wrong way and spit on one of the most iconic moments of comic book history. So annoyed right now.

I was gonna post but I'll just agree
As a book reader glens death was diluted and that sucks