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ButtersSuki wrote: »No comments on LeBron choking again in the C's game the other night? Big stats until it mattered...
I know this is pure jesting by you Butters, but the LeBron choking thing ended once and for all in the finals last year.0 -
ButtersSuki wrote: »No comments on LeBron choking again in the C's game the other night? Big stats until it mattered...
I remember you said to me last year when we were having that Bird-LeBron debate and said I was a LeBron fanboy etc (which I'm not) but even if I was, your hate on LeBron at every opportunity is just crazy. I know you're joking to an extent but I don't get it tbh.
As Buyer95 said the days of calling LeBron a choker is over, he's lead a team to do what no team has done before and beat the team with the best regular season record ever.0 -
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BS this is nothing got to do with my basketball credentials even though you're trying to move it in that direction. As anyone reading this forum could tell, you are needlessly critical of LeBron. As I said earlier you don't post the same comment about any other player. That was the point but yet again you go off on a needless tangent to justify yourself.
You are trying to discredit my argument by asking about my basketball history. I don't ask about yours because your ability to play the game doesn't interest me. There are plenty of people that play or played the game at a higher level than you that know less while there are plenty that haven't played as high as you and know more. You repeatedly use the word nuances in different scenarios and often it just means nothing.
Again I'm not arguing about LeBron's weaknesses or strengths per say I'm simply pointing out your inability to objectively critique him, which again is evident by your posts. I don't claim anything, I simply give an opinion and don't mind being criticized and I'll almost always admit when I'm wrong and I'll always acknowledge a point I think is good. I sometimes lean on stats too much to make a point for example but at least then my argument has some credibility to it.
You're just a bit of a 'crybully' to be honest, like I said before your criticism of LeBron is silly as its just ridiculously bias which you don't see but its evident to everyone else.
I asked fair questions and again you refuse to answer yet I'm the "crybully". Interesting. :rolleyes:
What does posting the same comment about any other player have to do with it? We're talking about a specific incident from a specific game.
Wasn't trying to discredit your argument at all, I simply asked a hypothetical question and went out of my way to point out it wasn't aimed at you personally - which you then took personally.
I repeatedly said he's the best player on the planet yet I'm overly critical of him in your eyes. Do I hold him to a higher standard? Yes. Why? Because he's the best player on the planet and he repeatedly says he wants to be the GOAT. So that surely deserves a higher level of scrutiny?
For example, did I criticize Williams for missing the 3? No. Why? Because I don't expect as much of him and tbh I don't expect a guy on a 10 day contract to have to make the game winning shot.
AND TO BE CLEAR - I honestly wouldn't have criticized LeBron for taking the shot even if he missed it. There's an old saying in basketball that "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". It takes balls to take the shot when the game is on the line and IMO (and in the opinion of a lot of US journalists and commentators last week*) he passed on that by passing. I'm critical of him for not taking the shot and the responsibility. That is not picking on him, it's a fair criticism of his choices on that play.
*I was in the states last week with work and caught an awful lot of coverage both on tv and in other media on this. It was a big talking point after the game. Just trying to0 -
There is so much drivel in that post that I don't even know where to start so I just won't bother.ButtersSuki wrote: »BS this is nothing got to do with my basketball credentials even though you're trying to move it in that direction. As anyone reading this forum could tell, you are needlessly critical of LeBron. As I said earlier you don't post the same comment about any other player. That was the point but yet again you go off on a needless tangent to justify yourself.
You are trying to discredit my argument by asking about my basketball history. I don't ask about yours because your ability to play the game doesn't interest me. There are plenty of people that play or played the game at a higher level than you that know less while there are plenty that haven't played as high as you and know more. You repeatedly use the word nuances in different scenarios and often it just means nothing.
Again I'm not arguing about LeBron's weaknesses or strengths per say I'm simply pointing out your inability to objectively critique him, which again is evident by your posts. I don't claim anything, I simply give an opinion and don't mind being criticized and I'll almost always admit when I'm wrong and I'll always acknowledge a point I think is good. I sometimes lean on stats too much to make a point for example but at least then my argument has some credibility to it.
You're just a bit of a 'crybully' to be honest, like I said before your criticism of LeBron is silly as its just ridiculously bias which you don't see but its evident to everyone else.
I asked fair questions and again you refuse to answer yet I'm the "crybully". Interesting. :rolleyes:
What does posting the same comment about any other player have to do with it? We're talking about a specific incident from a specific game.
Wasn't trying to discredit your argument at all, I simply asked a hypothetical question and went out of my way to point out it wasn't aimed at you personally - which you then took personally.
I repeatedly said he's the best player on the planet yet I'm overly critical of him in your eyes. Do I hold him to a higher standard? Yes. Why? Because he's the best player on the planet and he repeatedly says he wants to be the GOAT. So that surely deserves a higher level of scrutiny?
For example, did I criticize Williams for missing the 3? No. Why? Because I don't expect as much of him and tbh I don't expect a guy on a 10 day contract to have to make the game winning shot.
AND TO BE CLEAR - I honestly wouldn't have criticized LeBron for taking the shot even if he missed it. There's an old saying in basketball that "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take". It takes balls to take the shot when the game is on the line and IMO (and in the opinion of a lot of US journalists and commentators last week*) he passed on that by passing. I'm critical of him for not taking the shot and the responsibility. That is not picking on him, it's a fair criticism of his choices on that play.
*I was in the states last week with work and caught an awful lot of coverage both on tv and in other media on this. It was a big talking point after the game. Just trying to
I'll just say that the whole point of this was your consistent bias criticism of LeBron and nothing else ("your hate on LeBron at every opportunity is just crazy"), I made suggestions, you made ridiculous statements and asked needless questions, I'll leave it at that.0 -
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