Chelsea v Manchester United 23/10/16 k/o 16.00 SS1

Cantona's Collars

Predicted Chelsea Starting Lineup (3-4-3): Courtois; Cahill, Terry, Luiz; Azpilicueta, Matic, Kante, Alonso; Willian, Costa, Hazard

Predicted Manchester United Starting Lineup (4-2-3-1): De Gea; Valencia, Bailly, Blind, Shaw; Fellaini, Pogba; Martial, Mata, Rashford; Ibrahimovic

Chelsea are undefeated in their last 10 matches against Manchester United in all competitions.

Manchester United are undefeated in their last 6 matches in all competitions.

Kerrigooney

I hope I die in my sleep.

should be a cracker!

gosplan

RoboKlopp wrote: »

should be a cracker!

I've completely given up on big game Jose.

I'm not knocking the approach. I just don't expect it to be entertaining for the neutral.

Lord TSC

Both sides park the bus, leaving the ball untouched in the centre circle for 90 minutes.

niallo27

Another example of Jose killing the beautiful game. Ferguson will be turning in his grave watching this.

NukaCola

NIMAN

RoboKlopp wrote: »

should be a cracker!

Do you work for Sky's marketing Dept?

Based on what exactly?

They hyped up Red Monday for weeks, and I actually stopped watching it with 20mins to go, it was that dull.

I think this one might be the same.

wiz569

NIMAN wrote: »

Do you work for Sky's marketing Dept?

Based on what exactly?

They hyped up Red Monday for weeks, and I actually stopped watching it with 20mins to go, it was that dull.

I think this one might be the same.

I presume he was being sarcastic?

dundalkfc10

Hopefully Celtic and Rangers will go the whole way to Penalties so I won't have to suffer watching all of this before we hopefully become Champions tomorrow

Agent Coulson

Blue Sunday.

dundalkfc10

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Blue Sunday.

Couldn't care less in either game but they will be on in the pub

Well both teams have thoroughly decent forwards so even when both play defensively their forwards will get a chance or three most games.

You'd have to fancy Chelsea really.

Jimbob1977

niallo27 wrote: »

Another example of Jose killing the beautiful game. Ferguson will be turning in his grave watching this.

Did Fergie pass during the night?

Rayne Wooney

Negative park the bus his whole career Mourinho will show up and do negative things and ruin football for all the little kids in the world


Unless of course United win then the usual suspects will have to refuse to acknowledge this game existed like the Fener game on Thursday

Potential Underachiever

Rayne, go visit a doctor, you seem to have developed a chip shaped object on your shoulder. Most of your posts these days are ramble bus ramble ramble bus ramble!

Liam McPoyle

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Rayne, go visit a doctor, you seem to have developed a chip shaped object on your shoulder. Most of your posts these days are ramble bus ramble ramble bus ramble!

Ya, it's a wonder alright. Couldn't be due to people posting rubbishy bullshyt trying to get a rise, could it?

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Why can't Utd go there and attempt to play football and beat them just like Liverpool did?, I can't get my head around this mentality yous are developing.

Potential Underachiever

Saul T Nutzz wrote: »

Ya, it's a wonder alright. Couldn't be due to people posting rubbishy bullshyt trying to get a rise, could it?

I was being genuine on the Utd thread, I don't understand why you can't 'do a Liverpool' and just go there and attack Chelsea.

As far as Rayne goes, he's initiating the bs with an abundance of bus related posts as far as I can see.

hufpc8w3adnk65

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

I don't understand why you can't 'do a Liverpool' and just go there and attack

And do a Liverpool???? Which Liverpool would this be? Would it be the current team that's managed by Jurgen Kloop (when ye win cuz when ye lose it's still Rodgers team) or would this be Rafas Liverpool who deployed the exact same do not conceded tactics as Mourinhio?

Harry Palmr

MrMac84 wrote: »

And do a Liverpool???? Which Liverpool would this be? Would it be the current team that's managed by Jurgen Kloop (when ye win cuz when ye lose it's still Rodgers team) or would this be Rafas Liverpool who deployed the exact same do not conceded tactics as Mourinhio?

Well as Rafa left the club six and a half years ago I imagine it'll be the current model he's referencing.

Polo_Mint

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Well as Rafa left the club six and a half years ago I imagine it'll be the current model he's referencing.

Did Liverpool attack v United?

StringerBell

niallo27 wrote: »

Another example of Jose killing the beautiful game. Ferguson will be turning in his grave watching this.

Ah yes, Fergie of the swash buckling, never dull, "heavy metal" football ideology.....who is also alive, so him turning in a grave would be particularly worrying.

Jayop

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Did Liverpool attack v United?

Two chances, exciting stuff.

StringerBell

Polo_Mint wrote: »

Did Liverpool attack v United?

They absolutely won the passing anyway

Jayop

StringerBell wrote: »

They absolutely won the passing anyway

Looked like Liverpool were managed by vangaal. Loads of passes and possession but feck all chances.

Potential Underachiever

Liverpool with a squad of players that wouldn't make the Utd starting XI, managed to go to Chelsea and play an open expansive, stylish brand of football and beat them on their own patch, deservedly so as well. So I can't understand why some Utd fans think they are entering the Lion's Den and the only possible way to approach the game is to go there and play the 6-3-1 again. Mourinho seems to be brainwashing some of the fans, the squad ye have the money that was spent deserves better than Pulisball.

Polo_Mint

Didn't a Liverpool player try escorting Young off the pitch in the dying minutes to save time only for Liverpool to play the ball the full length of the pitch back to their keeper?

Polo_Mint

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Liverpool with a squad of players that wouldn't make the Utd starting XI, managed to go to Chelsea and play an open expansive, stylish brand of football and beat them on their own patch, deservedly so as well. So I can't understand why some Utd fans think they are entering the Lion's Den and the only possible way to approach the game is to go there and play the 6-3-1 again. Mourinho seems to be brainwashing some of the fans, the squad ye have the money that was spent deserves better than Pulisball.

So why didn't you do that at home v United?

StringerBell

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Liverpool with a squad of players that wouldn't make the Utd starting XI, managed to go to Chelsea and play an open expansive, stylish brand of football and beat them on their own patch, deservedly so as well. So I can't understand why some Utd fans think they are entering the Lion's Den and the only possible way to approach the game is to go there and play the 6-3-1 again. Mourinho seems to be brainwashing some of the fans, the squad ye have the money that was spent deserves better than Pulisball.

Do you find it soothing to repeat the same thing ad nauseum? At least put some effort in man!

PhlegmyMoses

Do a Liverpool :pac:

StringerBell

Polo_Mint wrote: »

So why didn't you do that at home v United?

Why is it considered acceptable to some Liverpool fans to create so few opportunities at home when they could march into the Lions Den and play an expansive, free flowing brand of football and stamp their authority on the opposition?

Umaro

Based off their games vs Arsenal and Liverpool, I think Chelsea can be got at. Their defence is not what it was, and I can see a mistake from Luiz or Cahill gifting Utd 3pts.

1-0 to Utd... And I'll say Rashford to do it.

I just hope we're not staring down the barrel of another 0-0. I've been stung by 3 of them this week.

Billy86

StringerBell wrote: »

Ah yes, Fergie of the swash buckling, never dull, "heavy metal" football ideology.....who is also alive, so him turning in a grave would be particularly worrying.

You'd wonder how many people actually watched our away games in the CL under Ferguson, particularly for the last 6-7 years of his tenure???

Liverpool all over a Chelsea v Man Utd thread
Amazingly this isn't the first time

The actual game, I fancy us getting a result. Form has been steadily building since the start of the season. A minor blip a couple of weeks back but the progression with this team is evident. It's going to take time but the early signs look good.
Chelsea in a similar position to us but honestly can see us nicking the win by the slightest of margins.
2-1 Utd

dfx-

As it says in the title, this is a Chelsea v United thread, not Liverpool v United thread so from now on let's stick to that please.

Tit-for-tat type posts so far and in the future will be reviewed and may be deleted and carded where necessary.

Unearthly

United have such a bad record at Stamford Bridge but I'm hoping Mourinho knowing all the Chelsea players inside out will work in our favour.

gosplan

Jose knows how to win leagues.

Depending on his opinion of Chelsea, it may be more important not to lose to them than to pick up 3 points.

It won't be pretty if that's the case but it's hard to say his approach is flawed when it comes to winning titles.

Minderbinder

There is no point in United playing for draws away to the big teams if we can't beat Stoke and Watford. Mourinho could afford this kind of negative nonsense when his teams were rolling over smaller teams. We are not on top of the table or anywhere close to it so being negative is useless and with draws we'll just fall further behind because there are so many teams ahead of us, and some of them are going to pick up three points.

The sort of performance against Liverpool was a joke and if it's the same today it will just show that Mourinho has given up any hope of winning the league in favour of trying to scramble into the top 4 through any means necessary.

Will Mourinhio attack from the off and surprise Chelsea? Get an early goal and park the bus if needs be. He has the players to go for it

ShaneU

I can't take another 90 minutes of that Liverpool game. Jose please take a leaf out of Paul Ince's notebook.

Harry Palmr

Umaro wrote: »

Based off their games vs Arsenal and Liverpool, I think Chelsea can be got at. Their defence is not what it was, and I can see a mistake from Luiz or Cahill gifting Utd 3pts.

1-0 to Utd... And I'll say Rashford to do it.

I just hope we're not staring down the barrel of another 0-0. I've been stung by 3 of them this week.

They have switched to three at the back and it seems to have steadied them.

weisses

Sure today Man U would be capable of shooting at target more then once ..... Or is this me being unrealistic ?

Jayop

If United get a draw today we'll be 5 points from the top having played the champions, city, Liverpool and Chelsea in the first 9 games. The two top teams have already dropped 7 points too so it's not like anyone is running away with it. We're clearly not into our stride yet but a point today wouldn't be a bad result in the grand scheme of things. If we can manage a win we'll only be 3 points back which puts us into a really good position.

Barr

Chelsea players should be well up for this and breakdown the Utd bus.

2-0 Chelsea

Potential Underachiever

Jayop wrote: »

If United get a draw today we'll be 5 points from the top having played the champions, city, Liverpool and Chelsea in the first 9 games. The two top teams have already dropped 7 points too so it's not like anyone is running away with it. We're clearly not into our stride yet but a point today wouldn't be a bad result in the grand scheme of things. If we can manage a win we'll only be 3 points back which puts us into a really good position.

It'll be 7 if City win...

Jayop

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

It'll be 7 if City win...

Ssshhhh don't be ruining a perfectly good post with actual facts.

Jayop

I'm going with 2 1 to United. Lovely jovely.

mikeym

Tough match to make a prediction.

Chelsea have had more time to prepare for the match.

TitianGerm

Jayop wrote: »

If United get a draw today we'll be 5 points from the top having played the champions, city, Liverpool and Chelsea in the first 9 games. The two top teams have already dropped 7 points too so it's not like anyone is running away with it. We're clearly not into our stride yet but a point today wouldn't be a bad result in the grand scheme of things. If we can manage a win we'll only be 3 points back which puts us into a really good position.

United (listed above) and Liverpool (Arsenal, Spurs, Leicester, Chelsea and United) have had very tough opening games so both teams are doing well.

United have a new manager as well and he's trying to shore everything up at the back first and foremost. I don't like Mourinho myself but you can't deny he is an excellent manager. Given time and money he will win a league at United.

Rayne Wooney

Mourinho would be right where he wanted to be if the players had put one of the tons of chances we had against Stoke away, two draws against Pool and Chelsea would have been fine as we'd more than likely only be 2 or 3 points off the top in that scenario.

The idea that he's going to rip up his plan and go all out attack against Pool and Chelsea just because we had a blip against Stoke is madness. Mourinho is a long term thinker, he always has been. 1 or 2 points is usually crucial near the end of the season and if he can get them almost guaranteed against the bigger clubs he'll take them because he's almost perfected the tactic at this stage.

Writing off anybody with 25 games to go is crazy.

5starpool

A Chelsea win and City draw would mean there would be 1 point between the top 5. Stupidly tight whatever happens, but that would be very unusual even at this stage of the season I'd say.