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Going off personal experience, in Canada it has yet to be made fully legalised but is a) available medicinally with a prescription in shops that are very open and accessible to the public (you don't need anything to go in and look around, you do to purchase), though they have other businesses that are selling it basically without. Essentially you go in, sign up, do a 5 minute Skype interview with a "medical expert" (homeopath I believe) and they give you the go ahead. After that, you are free to purchase as you wish, up to 1oz per day I think it is.
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They're an odd one, having been raided by the police and temporarily shut down on a few occasions the thinking seems to be that they are trying to get the market share before the seemingly imminent full legalisation occurs, as well as Canada's very relaxed attitude towards marijuana meaning the police are not overly bothered. Examples being, in Toronto I have seen police giving directions etc to people while someone else is smoking a joint 10-20 feet away, with the police not paying any attention. Also when I first got there I was staying in a backpacker hostel for a few weeks and someone I knew there was smoking a joint outside after midnight before he went to bed - it was in the middle of winter where the streets go absolutely dead after about 8pm from the cold. Anyway, a cop walked straight past him, noticed, turned to him and said... "now you just be sure to put that in the trash over there when you're finished, I don't want to see litters on the streets, OK?". Also during said raids which made the news, many on-the-ground police officers were not happy at all, saying it was a waste of time and resources that could go into more serious work.
An observation a lot of people who move to Canada make is how they seem to have a good handle on it, on a personal level. Now Canadians are a pretty polite and socially responsible bunch to start with, but a lot of it has to do with education. When you go into one of those clinics, the people behind the counter will give you a full run down of what product does what. So you can get a certain strain that will make you feel quite active and light, kind of an 'upper' buzz I guess you could say. You'd quite regularly in the summer see/smell people smoking this while kicking a football or throwing a frisbee/American football around in the park or down by the beach. On the other hand, they will also let you know of strains that will make you borderline comatose, not good for social or day time activities, but with huge benefits to pain relief (including a stomach in knots from a hangover!) or sleep issues. They can let you know what might last longer, or shorter, or inform you of alternatives drips you can put in any drink or edible forms, as well as the differences (that they take 1-2 hours to kick in, but last a good 5-8 hours long which is obviously very important to know beforehand).
That type of information is incredibly important to those using marijuana, and to the perception of those around them. For one thing, if you've ever heard someone saying they got "crap" weed that looked/smelled like it would be good over here, there is a huge chance it was just more on the sativa end of things (lighter, more active feeling) while on the other hand, there are people here with an incredibly negative perception of it because they've probably seen people smoking indica (the heavier-feeling stuff) the vast majority of the time, or people who have smoked a LOT of sativa because they're convinced it's just weaker.
I've had sleep problems since I was a kid (as my posting history/times will attest to
) and to me it was hugely, hugely beneficial to me. Marijuana hits me quite hard regardless though, so I wouldn't really smoke it at all otherwise, barring possibly being drunk at the end of a night out. Having tried both, I can comfortably say in my experience that the after-effects the next day are nothing compared to sleeping pills (a pint of water and very strong coffee first thing usually sorted me out) and there is no comparison in terms of addictiveness and such. For me just as much as actually smoking it, was the peace of mind going to bed knowing that I had 1-2g (so about a teapsoon worth) sitting in a tiny smell-proof container at the back of my sock drawer and if I had any worries with sleep I could just hop out on the balcony/out the back real quick and be ready to drift off 15-20 minutes later. The peace of mind got me to sleep 9 times out of 10, to be honest - only needed it for sleep once every two weeks or so.
Plus their names are funny - when I first went in I just explained to the guy why I wanted to purchase, and that I was looking for something that if needs be, would "just knock me the f*** out". Fella turns around to me, "oh yeah, that'll be the Tyson." :pac:
I know a lot of people that gained a much, much more favourable attitude towards marijuana in their time there. Not to say they started smoking it themselves in most cases, just that they came around to the fact that it doesn't turn people into zombies by default (only particular strains, recommended for sleep and pain relief, do).
I actually think it will be legal here possibly sooner than people would expect, by the end of the 2020s almost surely. Might seem far fetched to some, but so would gay marriage within 15 years to people back in 2000 when it was gaining traction in other countries (first to make it legal was the Netherlands funny enough, in 2001) - christ, in 2010 I would have laughed at you if you said gay marriage would be legal in Ireland in the next decade. I think the success US states are having with it which is beginning to lead to some serious bipartisan support (many states that voted Trump voted for legalisation on the same day for recreational and/or medical, including some rural spots like North Dakota) is quite telling, and long gone seem to be the days of the effective us of the "free the weed, it grows in nature maaaaaaan" negative stereotype for those who believe in it - from a cold, hard economic point of view it's hard not to just doing so. That is by far the best angle for the pro-legalisation crowd to take, as well as educating the less informed (see: indica/sativa, health concerns, etc) on how it effects people.
Sure the government has to worry about voter backlash from the more conservative/religious elements if and when they do legalise it over here, but it's a fast ageing demographic and we're a nation that tends to follow behind what others do not too long after. So my guess is in the next 12 years or so it will likely be legal here too.0 -
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This is what I would be most critical of. Not that it is tolerated or the police turn a blind eye to it, but the people "dispensing" it are mostly quacks or are involved in dubious "alternative medical practises", i.e the sh1t that usually doesn't work.When you go into one of those clinics, the people behind the counter will give you a full run down of what product does what. So you can get a certain strain that will make you feel quite active and light, kind of an 'upper' buzz I guess you could say. You'd quite regularly in the summer see/smell people smoking this while kicking a football or throwing a frisbee/American football around in the park or down by the beach. On the other hand, they will also let you know of strains that will make you borderline comatose, not good for social or day time activities, but with huge benefits to pain relief (including a stomach in knots from a hangover!) or sleep issues. They can let you know what might last longer, or shorter, or inform you of alternatives drips you can put in any drink or edible forms, as well as the differences (that they take 1-2 hours to kick in, but last a good 5-8 hours long which is obviously very important to know beforehand).
That type of information is incredibly important to those using marijuana, and to the perception of those around them. For one thing, if you've ever heard someone saying they got "crap" weed that looked/smelled like it would be good over here, there is a huge chance it was just more on the sativa end of things (lighter, more active feeling) while on the other hand, there are people here with an incredibly negative perception of it because they've probably seen people smoking indica (the heavier-feeling stuff) the vast majority of the time, or people who have smoked a LOT of sativa because they're convinced it's just weaker.
I've had sleep problems since I was a kid (as my posting history/times will attest to ) and to me it was hugely, hugely beneficial to me. Marijuana hits me quite hard regardless though, so I wouldn't really smoke it at all otherwise, barring possibly being drunk at the end of a night out. Having tried both, I can comfortably say in my experience that the after-effects the next day are nothing compared to sleeping pills (a pint of water and very strong coffee first thing usually sorted me out) and there is no comparison in terms of addictiveness and such. For me just as much as actually smoking it, was the peace of mind going to bed knowing that I had 1-2g (so about a teapsoon worth) sitting in a tiny smell-proof container at the back of my sock drawer and if I had any worries with sleep I could just hop out on the balcony/out the back real quick and be ready to drift off 15-20 minutes later. The peace of mind got me to sleep 9 times out of 10, to be honest - only needed it for sleep once every two weeks or so.
Plus their names are funny - when I first went in I just explained to the guy why I wanted to purchase, and that I was looking for something that if needs be, would "just knock me the f*** out". Fella turns around to me, "oh yeah, that'll be the Tyson." :pac:
I'm wary of the oft exaggerated claims for the drug, but then to put that power and responsibility in the hands of people with zero medical knowledge is crazy.
It's why I think the muddying of the waters between the medicinal and recreational use doesn't help either with respect to legalisation.
Usernames begin with the same letter...similar viewpoint on this issue....whoa dude it's like you're frickin Sherlock!Maybe it's because I'm very high but does anybody else think that jh79 and jimoslimos are the same poster.
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No you didn't, you claimed to have provided links alright but they were no where to be found.
Again if you disagree , make your point and back it up and i'll respond to it.
Is this evidence enough for ya ?
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No of course not, would it be sufficient evidence for you if it was a pharma drug?
You often post about pharma conspiracies surely you would agree that tight regulations are a good thing when it comes to medicine??
If it's medicine you'll need clinical trials to prove it.
GW Pharma posted positive phase 3 trials recently for epilepsy. They hope to submit to the FDA next year.0 -
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What?? Your "link" doesn't back up your ludicrous claims.Didn't they try synthetic cannabis on trial not long ago and it actually killed people.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/two-dead-from-synthetic-cannabis-what-new-drugs-are-doing-to-our-bodies/news-story/fa55e87d01eb9801f2222cf235a5bebd
Firstly the deaths were linked to recreational use and not in a clinical trial.
Secondly the drugs were mimics of methamphetamine and LSD, not cannabis.
Youtube testimonials? No that isn't evidence.
Regardless, that isn't an argument for legalisation, it's an argument for it to be a controlled medicinal product.0
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