Werewolf IV - All Hallows' Eve - GAME OVER - Villagers Win

y0ssar1an22

when people are referring to lucy, are they talking about lucifer?

Uriel.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

when people are referring to lucy, are they talking about lucifer?

yep it seems so... took me ages to figure that out

Digital Solitude

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

when people are referring to lucy, are they talking about lucifer?

Yes

Nopeare

Deleted User wrote: »

I took Beetlejuice and Lunatic as possible double roles so anyone could get them over there already given role, covering villagers, baddies and goodies

Now I could be way off on that

No I think you're right which is why I missed them out, but didn't finish explaining it correctly.

Uriel.

gufc21 wrote: »

Hey guys sorry i haven't posted. Dying a dearh the last few days, so haven't been on. What i miss? Or am i dead already. Will get back through the thread this eve at some point.

As a low poster (the quoted post being his one and only post thus far) and the fact that this is a most ridiculous post "am I dead already" I am shortlisting gufc21 as an early candidate for a piercing with my lynching spear.

mahamageehad

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Digital Solitude wrote: »

It's pretty obvious I would think?

I say we leave Molly tonight, I'm not entirely convinced she wasn't gleeful at the oppurtunity to get a conversion after losing the tiddlywinks and came here to complain to distance her from the vamps.

I'd like VH to follow her tonight, not sure who I'd like raced and I don't trust anyone to be a villager at this stage.

VH should follow Molly, if she survives the night I think she's a demon. Imo it's within the demons interests to kill Dracula too, reduce this to a standard WW game. Easy double bluff for Demons to leave her so we'll lynch her tomorrow night though.

Hmmmm. I'm very confused. The only thing I'd strongly put forward is that I think Molly is a bad guy, dunno which side yet. I'm trying to put myself in Demon and Dracula shoes to read over posts and strategize how to handle tonight.

Is it worth racing to kill Carrie?

After rechecking roles, this is what I should have posted.

I think I'm following your thinking here. In retrospect it's probably better to not name villagers! wouldn't it make more sense though to try and tease out who the two vamps are and get Helsing to follow them?! I'm not convinced on Molly, the evidence is flimsy. Alternatively, get Hel to follow a poster that has a high chance of being targeted? Someone like Mick or Trit or Tig.

I'm confused about the order of the kills. So is the vampire kill/convert always first? Taking sample names- Vick the vampire, Dan the demon, Mick (Meyers) and John the vanillager.

All three target John- John dies. Vick and Dan target John- he's converted, then dies. So if two baddies pick the same guy, it's an automatic death. Or am I missing something?

Now the complex ones: Vick tries to convert Dan. It fails and Dan learns a vampire name. Vick tries to kill Dan, Dan dies. Any other baddies targeting each other results in a baddie kill. Is that about the long and short of it?

Guffy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Right this smells a bit to me how could you not know if you were dead or not?

Because I've just woken up, sick as a dog and haven't had a chance to go through the thread yet. Have to go to work now so will be later before i get the opportunity.


As for killing me due to low post count. Work away. I'm prob to sick atm to concentrate on this and as of now have no meaningful input as have not read the previous posts. Tbh i should have pulled out before it started but forgot

y0ssar1an22

once VH stays alive draucula team will always be 1 bad choice away from total annihilation. based upon that, i think priorities should be not to lynch VH.
therefore i think we should be seeking out demons or myers, unless someone has a better strategy.

all the baddies could be hiding amougst low poster, but this strategy was used in past games. Will they try the same tactic or new tactic? chances are bit of both.

1st lycnh is always tough. there is usually no good evidence. just watery theories.

crosstownk

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

once VH stays alive draucula team will always be 1 bad choice away from total annihilation. based upon that, i think priorities should be not to lynch VH.
therefore i think we should be seeking out demons or myers, unless someone has a better strategy.

Agreed. But how do we ensure that we don't lynch VH?

y0ssar1an22

crosstownk wrote: »

Agreed. But how do we ensure that we don't lynch VH?

they'll just have to come out and role claim if their on the chopping block.

1 thing to note, if VH does come out....vamps wont kill him, but would the demons or myres want him dead? it may serve them to keep him alive. will need to re read the roles.

Tigger

crosstownk wrote: »

Agreed. But how do we ensure that we don't lynch VH?

Max is vh
Don't lynch him and be Durand

y0ssar1an22

on a side note, i will be back to work shorlty and proably wont be home till 7.30. will be able to get on for 15 mins at 5.30, and hopefully during afternoon if boss steps out

Tigger

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

they'll just have to come out and role claim if their on the chopping block.

1 thing to note, if VH does come out....vamps wont kill him, but would the demons or myres want him dead? it may serve them to keep him alive. will need to re read the roles.

Course they'll kill him

y0ssar1an22

Tigger wrote: »

Course they'll kill him

but he's the only 1 that can kill all vamps

crosstownk

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

they'll just have to come out and role claim if their on the chopping block.

1 thing to note, if VH does come out....vamps wont kill him, but would the demons or myres want him dead? it may serve them to keep him alive. will need to re read the roles.

He's certainly of value to the vampires and just a villager at the same time. But as you say, no need to come out unless under threat.

Tigger

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

but he's the only 1 that can kill all vamps

So they will kill him
It's.max btw
Dear the vamps Max is vh you should kill him

crosstownk

Tigger wrote: »

Course they'll kill him

Why? He's their most valuable villager.

Uriel.

Tigger wrote: »

Max is vh
Don't lynch him and be Durand

Tigger wrote: »

So they will kill him
It's.max btw
Dear the vamps Max is vh you should kill him

I am afraid to ask

crosstownk

Uriel. wrote: »

I am afraid to ask

Me too. That's why I didn't.

But I feel the answer is only a few posts away.

Digital Solitude

Vanillager I love it

Its flimsy but also day one. I had thought her suspicious yesterday, just stood out to me.

When Tig called her demon I thought I was onto something but don't want to strike her off the Drac list.

If she did come out as clean then I'd start looking at Tig. Not clearing him but I don't feel he's throwing her under the bus, Barney style so I don't think they're teammates

Digital Solitude

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Vanillager I love it

Its flimsy but also day one. I had thought her suspicious yesterday, just stood out to me.

When Tig called her demon I thought I was onto something but don't want to strike her off the Drac list.

If she did come out as clean then I'd start looking at Tig. Not clearing him but I don't feel he's throwing her under the bus, Barney style so I don't think they're teammates

Unless they're both villagers

cee_jay

^ I'm going to take this bullet.
Tigger, I'm new to this game, and maybe it is your posting style, but to be honest, your random theories with no backup/evidence/explanation is making me very suspicious.

Tigger

crosstownk wrote: »

Why? He's their most valuable villager.

No he's the daemons most valuable player

cee_jay

When I say bullet - I mean to the 2 posters who said they weren't going to ask

Maximus Alexander

Tigger wrote: »

Max is vh
Don't lynch him and be Durand

Don't listen to Tigger.

crosstownk

Tigger wrote: »

No he's the daemons most valuable player

Sorry, that's what I meant.

Mollyb60

I think Tigger is doing his tried and tested tactic of throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. The evidence against me I think is complete nonsense.
Now he's pointing out Max as VH which is sure to get him on a kill list. Tigger what are you playing at? Why come out and tell everyone that Max is VH?

Tigger

cee_jay wrote: »

^ I'm going to take this bullet.
Tigger, I'm new to this game, and maybe it is your posting style, but to be honest, your random theories with no backup/evidence/explanation is making me very suspicious.

Molly is a daemon
She gave herself away
If you can't see it I can
The reason it looks weak is because she's hardly gonna wear the team jersey

I'm happy to go with the village consensus on any vote and as I think she's 50/50 on being Carrie I'd rather we didn't lynch her cos she might take me with her

cee_jay

Tigger, you gave reasons why you suspect Molly as a daemon. Why did you name Max as VH?

Wait. Was it one or two people who were killed this morning?