BMW finally coming clean on the N47

Comhrá

BMW admits design fault that could cost motorists €6k to fix.

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/bmw-admits-design-fault-that-could-cost-motorists-6k-to-fix-35155502.html

jimgoose

'Bout sodding time for them! :pac:

Leonard Hofstadter

They're not really coming clean though are they, in the Independent article, they've said the design flaw was in cars made before June 2008, sure even BMW's own service bulletins acknowledge that there was a problem until March 2009 (when they made their first attempt to fix the problem) and it was only after March 2011 that it was 'properly' fixed (even though it wasn't fixed then, either). There is also no mention of the N57, which being exactly the same as the N47 (just with two extra cylinders stuck on) also suffers from the problems (though not to the same extent because the N57 being a six cylinder unit is much smoother running than the N47, plus the fact they are almost always automatics, which are less prone to the problem for some unknown reason).

coolbeans

tippman1 wrote: »

BMW admits design fault that could cost motorists 6k to fix.

http://www.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/bmw-admits-design-fault-that-could-cost-motorists-6k-to-fix-35155502.html

BMW have behaved very badly re their recurrent faults imo. If it were another manufacture like Toyota I can't help but feel that customers would have been looked after thru a widely publicised recall that would temporarily hit share prices but ultimately restore consumers' faith in the company in future.

shietpilot

Good to hear. I wonder if they will be paying out customers who have already paid out €6k to fix this problem from their own pocket.

CJhaughey

shietpilot wrote: »

Good to hear. I wonder if they will be paying out customers who have already paid out €6k to fix this problem from their own pocket.

I can tell you there will be two chances , slim and none.
Slim left town a while back and None died.

robtri

CJhaughey wrote: »

I can tell you there will be two chances , slim and none.
Slim left town a while back and None died.

The joys of a Premium Brand car ownership!!

CJhaughey

robtri wrote: »

The joys of a Premium Brand car ownership!!

Depends on what your definition of premium is I guess?

166man

Indeed. Can't really consider them a premium car these days with a 4 pot diesel under the bonnet..

fancy pigeon

robtri wrote: »

The joys of a Premium Brand car ownership!!

Premium brand does not equal premium car.

I feed my cat wiskas premium, does that make for a premium cat?

Ded_Zebra

I was under the impression that the N57 was just as bad, just less reported cases as less units were sold in this country.

At least the New B47 and B57 seem to be an improvement. Time will tell if they really cured it or just pushed the issues passed the warranty period...

selectamatic

coolbeans wrote: »

BMW have behaved very badly re their recurrent faults imo. If it were another manufacture like Toyota I can't help but feel that customers would have been looked after thru a widely publicised recall that would temporarily hit share prices but ultimately restore consumers' faith in the company in future.

+1 on this, German brands have a history on poor recalls/good will especially bmw and the vag group.
I can't help but feel that if this was a jap,French or Italian brands problem they wouldn't have got it so easy in the motoring media.

Leonard Hofstadter

Ded_Zebra wrote: »

I was under the impression that the N57 was just as bad, just less reported cases as less units were sold in this country.

At least the New B47 and B57 seem to be an improvement. Time will tell if they really cured it or just pushed the issues passed the warranty period...

Well N47s were developing problems at this stage, and there is no bad news with the B engined range - yet. It will be a real disaster if the B47 suffers from the problems, because the petrol engines now have the timing chain in the wrong place as well, so that means only the V8 and V12 petrols won't have the timing chain problem in the not too distant future if it hasn't been sorted (and the V8s have enough problems to contend with) .

Esel

... The timing chain links all the moving parts of an engine...

Motoring journos (most of them anyway) are plonkers.

Special Circumstances

Bumping this thread so the poor guy who got shot down for adding info to one of the many other Nfkty7 engine threads can find the latest relevant thread.