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Favourite Strava Segments (include links please!)

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    #32
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Couple of questions, if it will help others too…(?):
    • How do you find Strava segments in your local area?
    • How do you follow an existing run (on iPhone)?
    • What's the difference between normal and premium?
    • How much does premium cost, and under what circumstances is is worth it?
    • How do you make and name a segment?

    (I see the first and last questions are addressed reasonably well by Strava's Help. But not altogether. For instance, I come across named Strava sections in my normal daily cycle, but can't see them on the map when looking for segments near my route.)

    1. Go to Strava Explore, then Segment Explore (much easier on a PC/Laptop). You can zone in to the area of your choice. In heavily congested segment areas, only the most popular will be shown. It will also only show segments which begin and end within the area you have zoned in to. There is also a device to allow you to filter difficulty (HC, 1,2,3,4 or all).

    2. Don't know.

    3. Premium gives some extra information and stats but probably only suited to the cyclist doing serious 'training'.

    4. I think it's €60 per year and many of those that have it say it not worth it as the free version gives 90% of what you need.

    4. Go into a ride that you've completed. Find the tools icon (spanner) and select 'Create Segment'. Move the start and end points (zooming in to ensure accuracy). You will be given other options that may be similar. If you wish to continue, select 'create my segment'. You will have to name it and it will be made private by default so you'll have to de-select this if you wish to have others on the leaderboard.


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    #33
    lissard
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lissard


    oconnpad wrote: »
    I try to get to wicklow once or twice a year for spin in the mountains and so i came across this segment on a pre planned spin.
    The route was from laragh up to kippure mast via military road and back via roundwood, ashford, laragh
    With the climb to kippure mast i didn't pay to much attention to this segment on the route beforehand.
    When i was climbing the thing I was full sure i'd taken a wrong turn somewhere. It just seem to go on and on to me at the time.

    Ouch I'd say that was an unplanned nasty surprise, especially at the end of a tough spin. It is eye-poppingly steep, the points where it eases to 10% nearly feel like flat sections.


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    #34
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,618 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    one thing it's missing - even on the premium version afaik - is the ability to examine a particular stretch of your ride without creating a segment to match what you want to see. it may be a marginal use case, but it's something i'd like to have had on a couple of occasions.


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    #35
    Chuchote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Thanks. And how do people follow Strava segments on other machines? Does it work like a satnav - saying "Turn left in 40 metres"? Or do you print it out, enlarged, or something?

    Edit: nope https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/208836447-Turn-by-Turn-Audio-Notifications-for-Route-Navigation-mobile-?page=5#comments

    Apparently at some stage there was an 'Export GPX' option by clicking a spanner icon; can't see that now. Edit: D'oh, there it is on the left, and it works. Will try that now, adding it to the Here app, if I can remember how.


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    #36
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    lissard wrote: »
    Ouch I'd say that was an unplanned nasty surprise, especially at the end of a tough spin. It is eye-poppingly steep, the points where it eases to 10% nearly feel like flat sections.
    Speaking of nasty surprises, the climb by Clara church (on a side road off the R755 just south of Laragh) is one which caught me out big time. You cross a very pretty bridge and then come to a very pretty church and round a bend and then it feels like getting repeatedly punched in the face for a few hundred metres. Very steep in places - you know where you're thinking that if I come to a stop now, I'll start rolling back before I can get clipped out. To make it even worse, it ramps back up to 20%+ at the T junction with poor visibility at the very end so you have to keep moving into the junction or else fall off.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1305765


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    #37
    lissard
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lissard


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Thanks. And how do people follow Strava segments on other machines? Does it work like a satnav - saying "Turn left in 40 metres"? Or do you print it out, enlarged, or something?

    Edit: nope https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/208836447-Turn-by-Turn-Audio-Notifications-for-Route-Navigation-mobile-?page=5#comments

    Apparently at some stage there was an 'Export GPX' option by clicking a spanner icon; can't see that now. Edit: D'oh, there it is on the left, and it works. Will try that now, adding it to the Here app, if I can remember how.

    Live Segments are a feature in the Garmin Edge 520 if you're into that sort of thing. I only have the earlier Edge 500 and very occasionally download GPX files in order to have some rudimentary mapping in front of me. Part of the joy of cycling for me is getting lost and figuring out new routes as I go along. I guess it's the man in me - never wanting to ask for directions! With a smartphone there is always recourse to Google Maps if I get lost. Only place where I really needed this stuff was when cycling abroad.


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    #38
    Chuchote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Hm. Tried exporting my standard (when I'm well) daily ride as GPX; added it to Dropbox so I could open it in Here's iPhone app GPXTracker. But in Dropbox on the iPhone it just appears as a long, long, endless HTML file, and doesn't offer any export options. GPXTracker doesn't seem to offer any way of opening it from Dropbox either.
    What a pity Apple dropped its normal drag-and-drop-ability from iPhones and made them so damned complicated.
    Apparently you can add it through iTunes, but since Apple limits iTunes to 5 devices, it's nuked my ability to connect this iPhone to iTunes since a factory reset. #grrrrinddd


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    #39
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »

    2. Don't know.

    3. Premium gives some extra information and stats but probably only suited to the cyclist doing serious 'training'.
    If you don't have a heart rate monitor, premium only offers a personal heatmap
    but you can get that from
    http://www.jonathanokeeffe.com/strava/multi-ride-mapper/


    I think you need to create a route in strava to see it on your phone as you cycle.
    Create a route ( on a computer, its easier),
    on iphone start record, click the little arrowherad at the bottom left, pick the route, press record & follow display.


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    #40
    68 lost souls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,990 ✭✭✭68 lost souls


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Hm. Tried exporting my standard (when I'm well) daily ride as GPX; added it to Dropbox so I could open it in Here's iPhone app GPXTracker. But in Dropbox on the iPhone it just appears as a long, long, endless HTML file, and doesn't offer any export options. GPXTracker doesn't seem to offer any way of opening it from Dropbox either.
    What a pity Apple dropped its normal drag-and-drop-ability from iPhones and made them so damned complicated.
    Apparently you can add it through iTunes, but since Apple limits iTunes to 5 devices, it's nuked my ability to connect this iPhone to iTunes since a factory reset. #grrrrinddd

    You can unassign devices.


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    #41
    Chuchote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    68 lost souls wrote: »
    You can unassign devices.

    Nope. You have to unassign *all* your devices and then reassign them, according to what iTunes is telling me.

    The idea that it should be limited to five devices is utter nonsense - most people would have, say, an ancient computer with stuff on it, a current computer, a tablet, a phone, a couple of iPods with beloved old music, and so on.

    The whole system is horribly kludgy. I'd like to make a ringtone of a particular song; used to be easy enough, but because of Apple's fart-dancing, it's become complex and boring.


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    #42
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    Chuchote wrote: »
    Hm. Tried exporting my standard (when I'm well) daily ride as GPX; added it to Dropbox so I could open it in Here's iPhone app GPXTracker. But in Dropbox on the iPhone it just appears as a long, long, endless HTML file, and doesn't offer any export options. GPXTracker doesn't seem to offer any way of opening it from Dropbox either....
    Why not just plot your daily route using Strava's Route creator and it will be in your phone and on Strava. (Why would you be creating a route you know anyway? Most people use it to plot a route in unknown territory!)

    (PS - my technical knowledge is very limited. Haven't a clue what GPX, HTML, Dropbox etc. are so apologies if I'm not answering your question).


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    #43
    Daroxtar
    Registered Users Posts: 4,343 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    one thing it's missing - even on the premium version afaik - is the ability to examine a particular stretch of your ride without creating a segment to match what you want to see. it may be a marginal use case, but it's something i'd like to have had on a couple of occasions.

    Don't use the app, use the website. You'll see a list on the left side of the screen. Go into Analysis. Now you get a graph. You can highlight a particular section in that graph and it gives your avg and max stats for that along the left hand margin


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    #44
    Chuchote
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭Chuchote


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Why not just plot your daily route using Strava's Route creator and it will be in your phone and on Strava. (Why would you be creating a route you know anyway? Most people use it to plot a route in unknown territory!)

    (PS - my technical knowledge is very limited. Haven't a clue what GPX, HTML, Dropbox etc. are so apologies if I'm not answering your question).

    Daroxtar has answered my question an easier way - use the Strava website for stats. I was proposing to use the Strava route on an ordinary map to get turn-by-turn instructions, using a route I know first to get the hang of doing it, rather than attempting to learn on an unknown route in the wilds of north Cork.

    GPX is the format used for things like Strava segments; you name a route, say, Kilmashogue.gpx and save it, and open that file in a mapping program; works for some, not for others. HTML (hypertext markup language, I think) is the language used to format websites - every website you look at is actually a lot of text instructing your browser to show it as images, words, music, etc. (A browser = Safari, Netscape, Chrome, Mozilla, etc.) Dropbox is a program you can use to move files from one device to another, or to send them to other people - for instance if you want to share family photos with all your aunties in America.


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    #45
    joey100
    Registered Users Posts: 3,425 ✭✭✭joey100


    https://www.strava.com/segments/744867

    That would be my favourite I'd say. Good length, fast enough at the start and around half way the surface really improves and it gets faster. With the wind behind you it's a flier. No danger of getting a KOM on it though, that's sown up by the Giro riders but nice to push yourself before the coffee stop in Skerries.


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    #46
    daragh_
    Registered Users Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭daragh_


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Usually incorporated into the Boards.ie Evil Ride! Descending it is almost worse than climbing it - horrible surface causing so much vibrations that you get blurred vision. In autumn its extra difficult with a carpet of wet leaves. Beautiful all the same. :)

    Here's a few more little shockers to get the heart rate up.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/777083

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1043428

    https://www.strava.com/segments/9408001

    https://www.strava.com/segments/10435185


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    #47
    godtabh
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    Speaking of nasty surprises, the climb by Clara church (on a side road off the R755 just south of Laragh) is one which caught me out big time. You cross a very pretty bridge and then come to a very pretty church and round a bend and then it feels like getting repeatedly punched in the face for a few hundred metres. Very steep in places - you know where you're thinking that if I come to a stop now, I'll start rolling back before I can get clipped out. To make it even worse, it ramps back up to 20%+ at the T junction with poor visibility at the very end so you have to keep moving into the junction or else fall off.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1305765

    That nearly killed me this year. The heat was so bad i stopped just past the church not realizing what was a head of me. Took me a while


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    #48
    daragh_
    Registered Users Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭daragh_


    Forgot the Lamb. Always good for a laugh

    https://www.strava.com/segments/5890791


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    #49
    lissard
    Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭lissard


    daragh_ wrote: »
    Here's a few more little shockers to get the heart rate up.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/777083

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1043428

    Red Lane - how could I forget that beauty. If i remember correctly, traction was pretty compromised the day I did it due to a combination of moss, cow **** and my own lack of speed.

    Must try Quarry Road climb - I regularly pass it on my way to work and never realised there was a through road linking Rathmichael and Pucks Castle.


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    #50
    dragratchet
    Registered Users Posts: 690 ✭✭✭dragratchet


    lissard wrote: »

    Must try Quarry Road climb - I regularly pass it on my way to work and never realised there was a through road linking Rathmichael and Pucks Castle.

    Quarry road is a nice one alright. immaculate tarmac for the first bit and then its rough as hell country lane. out of the saddle stuff for the last 500/600 metres.


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    #51
    [Deleted User]
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    The devils elbow.
    Last time (a few years ago) I went up it I ended up walking when I nearly did a wheelie on one of the corners.
    https://www.strava.com/segments/631154

    Slieve Maan s/westwards
    A tough climb that is made more challenging since you usually have a few other climbs in the legs.
    https://www.strava.com/segments/1262019

    3 rock via kellystown
    Nice steep ramp with a nice view at the top.
    https://www.strava.com/segments/631098


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    #52
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    lissard wrote: »
    ...Must try Quarry Road climb - I regularly pass it on my way to work and never realised there was a through road linking Rathmichael and Pucks Castle.
    dragratchet wrote: »
    Quarry road is a nice one alright. immaculate tarmac for the first bit and then its rough as hell country lane. out of the saddle stuff for the last 500/600 metres.
    According to Strava, I've done Quarry Road (during the Boards.ie Evil Ride 2015) but I have absolutely no recollection of it. :confused:


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    #53
    Sunsets On Tuesday
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Sunsets On Tuesday


    ronoc wrote: »
    The devils elbow.
    Last time (a few years ago) I went up it I ended up walking when I nearly did a wheelie on one of the corners.
    https://www.strava.com/segments/631154
    The devil's elbow is a crazy steep climb, especially at those bends! Was made worse recently when they coated it in gravel!


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    #54
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I miss temple hill from when I lived in Cork, managed to get into the top 10 but have since been pushed back a few places.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/699323


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    #55
    Sunsets On Tuesday
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Sunsets On Tuesday


    tuxy wrote: »
    I miss temple hill from when I lived in Cork, managed to get into the top 10 but have since been pushed back a few places.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/699323

    Wow. Is there a steeper climb over 500m in length with that gradient in Ireland?! Crazy stuff.


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    #56
    Sunsets On Tuesday
    Registered Users Posts: 146 ✭✭Sunsets On Tuesday


    daragh_ wrote: »
    Here's a few more little shockers to get the heart rate up.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/777083

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1043428

    https://www.strava.com/segments/9408001

    https://www.strava.com/segments/10435185

    Have you done Altidore climb? It's something else! Looking at my Garmin it was 15% for most of it, with some "flatter" sections @9%.
    https://www.strava.com/segments/1001854 — altidore climb


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    #57
    daragh_
    Registered Users Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭daragh_


    Sunsets On Tuesday wrote: »
    Have you done Altidore climb? It's something else! Looking at my Garmin it was 15% for most of it, with some "flatter" sections @9%.
    https://www.strava.com/segments/1001854 — altidore climb

    I've set out a few times to do it but missed the turn - so it's on the list.


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    #58
    irishrover99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    daragh_ wrote: »
    Here's a few more little shockers to get the heart rate up.

    https://www.strava.com/segments/777083

    https://www.strava.com/segments/1043428

    https://www.strava.com/segments/9408001

    https://www.strava.com/segments/10435185

    How come you are not showing up on the Clara Vale segment?. Was it the zig zagging on the way up or was the signal issues from the motor bikes coming down :)


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    #59
    2 Wheels Good
    Registered Users Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭2 Wheels Good


    Sunsets On Tuesday wrote: »
    Wow. Is there a steeper climb over 500m in length with that gradient in Ireland?! Crazy stuff.
    It's great! You can do a nice 5k loop around back on to the Tower road if you fancy doing it a few times.


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    #60
    Wishbone Ash
    Registered Users Posts: 24,995 ✭✭✭✭Wishbone Ash


    irishrover99 wrote: »
    How come you are not showing up on the Clara Vale segment?. Was it the zig zagging on the way up or was the signal issues from the motor bikes coming down :)
    :confused: He is on it and a very respectable time too!


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    #61
    irishrover99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    Wishbone Ash wrote: »
    :confused: He is on it and a very respectable time too!

    Ok I see it now when I'm using the app. Some reason I missed it or it wasn't there when I checked the website earlier. I was with daragh when he done it so I'm not questioning if he has done it or not


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