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Tanker at anchor for months ?

  • 27-10-2016 12:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭


    Maybe it is just my imagination. I could swear that I have been looking at the same ship at anchor for months off Dun Laoghaire.

    According to Dublin Port's shiny new website the ship arrived last August and is called the IVER ABILITY.

    According to Marinetraffic.com's her name is IVER ABILITY but her picture shows the name on the hull as St. Charlotte.

    Why would a tanker be at rest for so long ? Is she just being used as a floating storage facility ? Just curious.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭neris


    seems she used to be called st charlotte. maybe issues with her over money. its not uncommon for crews not to have been paid for months and other debts outstanding that would stop a ship entering port. was a ship a few years back moored up beside the east link for a very long time as the crew hadnt been paid other money was owed and the ship was basically impounded and sold off for a 1/3 of her value then taken out into the bay by the new owners for weeks to be made ready to sail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭neris


    Im doubting this is the story for that ship but seems few tankers are being used as storage around europe

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-11-11/oil-tankers-used-to-store-millions-of-barrels-as-land-sites-fill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,286 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Tanker still there, wonder will the crew get home for Christmas?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Some crew changes have already been done, rest will go home when contract is up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    She is still there as I write....

    What do they do for bunkers and fresh water and food ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,286 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    She is still there as I write....

    What do they do for bunkers and fresh water and food ?

    Likely they have a desalination plant on board for fresh water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,286 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I see there's 4 more tankers beside it now.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    She is still there as I write....

    What do they do for bunkers and fresh water and food ?

    She gets permission to go into Dublin Port once in a while to bunker (diesel for the genny) and load up on pot water. Provisions are delivered at huge expense in the meantime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭neris




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    The word is she'll go to Rotterdam once they've figured out how to get the cargo out without causing another explosion. She will probably need new cargo tanks, a massive job. Talk of a sister ship in the same situation and also waiting for resolution before she can haul up the anchor and head off too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,286 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I see IVER ABILITY now docked in Dublin Port.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 538 ✭✭✭WHL




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,085 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    It's actually quite weird the hush hush going on about this vessel by Dublin port authorities and the lack of detail about the cargo. I presume entirely because of its incredibly dangerous nature volatility and environmental impact. The only reference to the truth is on that website linked above.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Nightshifter


    Nothing to do with money or non payment of crew....they would of engaged in mutiny long since if that were the case.
    There was a "pressure release" during operations in Dublin Port.
    There was a subsequent "pressure release" while anchored in Dublin Bay.
    As there is a cloud hanging over the vessel it will not be allowed to discharge its cargo in any oil facility and will remain there until the insurers decide who will take the blame and pay for the meter that has been running since 16th August


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,592 ✭✭✭elastico


    Made the RTE news the other night, the reporter sailed out around it in a small boat. Much the same story as discussed here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Nothing to do with money or non payment of crew....they would of engaged in mutiny long since if that were the case.
    There was a "pressure release" during operations in Dublin Port.
    There was a subsequent "pressure release" while anchored in Dublin Bay.
    As there is a cloud hanging over the vessel it will not be allowed to discharge its cargo in any oil facility and will remain there until the insurers decide who will take the blame and pay for the meter that has been running since 16th August

    Now, would that be a "slow and measured pressure release" or and "extremely fast and abrupt pressure release"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Nightshifter


    Pat Dunne wrote: »
    Now, would that be a "slow and measured pressure release" or and "extremely fast and abrupt pressure release"?

    The cargo belongs to one of the biggest oil companies in the world and the ship is on a long term time charter to them.
    The aforementioned but anonymous oil company has astonishing resources to control media leaks as to what happened and the current status of the ship/cargo.
    It would be a very brave reporter indeed who would pick away at the bones of this story.
    And his editor would have to have a new career plan in mind if he were to release the story into the Irish media.
    Suffice it to say the other vessel mentioned which is absolutely not a sister ship of the vessel in the bay languished at anchor in Rotterdam for a considerable length of time with a contaminated cargo.
    Nothing too risky and it was well contained without incident until cargo's owner dealt with it.
    There is nothing surer than the fact that when blame has been apportioned and the insurers pay up the vessel in the bay is going to oil tanker heaven and will be decommissioned.
    It WILL be scrapped as none of the refineries will allow it in to load given its chequered recent history.
    More to do with misfortune than bad design or negligence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭man98


    anonymous oil company
    Didn't RTÉ report the name of the company? I won't name it for fear fear of litigation however ;) . I wouldn't want to slander the company with such a great reputation out on the west coast :pac::pac::pac: .

    I'm curious to know how exactly bitumen could react with something during unloading, surely it's only contacting metal? And why would it only occur now despite the fact she's been in service many years?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    man98 wrote: »
    Didn't RTÉ report the name of the company? I won't name it for fear fear of litigation however ;) . I wouldn't want to slander the company with such a great reputation out on the west coast :pac::pac::pac: .

    I'm curious to know how exactly bitumen could react with something during unloading, surely it's only contacting metal? And why would it only occur now despite the fact she's been in service many years?

    You could infer the name. Such as would you find them on a beach?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,384 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,005 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne



    At last someone with Conjones, thank you Andrew Renko.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Nightshifter


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    Maybe it is just my imagination. I could swear that I have been looking at the same ship at anchor for months off Dun Laoghaire.

    According to Dublin Port's shiny new website the ship arrived last August and is called the IVER ABILITY.

    According to Marinetraffic.com's her name is IVER ABILITY but her picture shows the name on the hull as St. Charlotte.

    Why would a tanker be at rest for so long ? Is she just being used as a floating storage facility ? Just curious.

    Bitumen isn't the problem
    It was the previous cargo that was the issue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    Out of curiosity in what state is the bitumen carried i.e. as some form of solid or molten ? If the latter how do they keep it on the move ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13 Nightshifter


    NUTLEY BOY wrote: »
    Out of curiosity in what state is the bitumen carried i.e. as some form of solid or molten ? If the latter how do they keep it on the move ?


    It's transported and stored in the shore facility at a temperature of around 150 degrees Celsius
    Heated on board vessel using heating coils
    (Like a massive immersion heater)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭TOEJOE


    Where exactly is the ship i have a few driveways to do?


  • Registered Users Posts: 120 ✭✭alphasully


    Sometimes referred to as the 'cornflake company'


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,712 ✭✭✭roundymac


    Something similer happed to this vessel in 1979. She had been sold to Greek owners in 1965 and while trading as the Aramon a cargo of bitumen she was carrying solidified in her holds. She was scrapped at Kaoshiung with the bitumen still on board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭NUTLEY BOY


    I see that she is gone.

    At 14:50 [Dublin time] she is heading south, abeam Fishguard bound for the Delfzijl.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,064 ✭✭✭✭neris


    From afloat.ie


    Iver Ability, the red hulled ship, anchored in Dublin Bay since August, left its six–month mooring yesterday, bound for the Dutch Port of Delfzijl.

    The long term anchorage of the ship followed a 'reaction' onboard the Asphalt/Bitumen tanker during her transport of Bitumen into Dublin Port this summer.

    The ship cut a lonely sight over Christmas 2016, as 'discussions with charterers' for a port of discharge for the vessel’s cargo continued.

    While at anchorage in Dublin, the ship was fully operational with all seafarers performing normal duties and standard crew changes taking place, according to the ship's managers.


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