GW11 Captain Poll

F1ngers

Aguero for me - didn't captain him last week, once bitten twice shy.

km79

Aguero
Always
Captain
Aguero
autokun
All is right with the world

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Aguero... Forever and always.

Scorpion Sting

Heaton home to Palace, another superhuman display is likely.









Nah I jest, Aguero of course.

patmac

I'm going with Kun, everyone else will be on Aguero so he could be a massive differential for me.

Shanotheslayer

Aguero.

But am an Everton fan, I fully expect Costa to match Aguero this week.

Iused2likebusts

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Aguero.

But am an Everton fan, I fully expect Costa to match Aguero this week.

Everton have only conceded more than 1 goal in a game once all season.

ScummyMan

Kun.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..

Copper_pipe

Aguerooo

dsmythy

Kun is a cruel vengeful god. I don't care how well Middlesbrough have defended recently.

Kenjataimu

16 votes & all for one man.

A potential for getting ahead by picking someone else....


It wont be me though :pac:

Ted_YNWA

Kenjataimu wrote: »

16 votes & all for one man.

A potential for getting ahead by picking someone else....


It wont be me though :pac:

Do you wanna take that chance.

Can't see anyone else outscoring him this week

SickBoy

ScummyMan wrote: »

Kun.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice..

... you can't get fooled again?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Aguero - 22 votes.
Everyone else - 0 votes.

km79

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

Aguero - 22 votes.
Everyone else - 0 votes.

Kind of takes the fun out of it
But some clown will prob captain Ibra as a "differential "

pimpmyhat

SickBoy wrote: »

... you can't get fooled again?

Firminho

Tauriel

I thought I would rebel and go against the herd :eek:

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Everton have only conceded more than 1 goal in a game once all season.

Missing Gueye is a big loss defensively, but yeah I wouldn't expect them to be hammered.

irishchris

Just to be different I'm going with sergio

Rikand

That Heaton captainer either has massive balls or his team is even worse than mine!

Scorpion Sting

Rikand wrote: »

That Heaton captainer either has massive balls or his team is even worse than mine!

Pisstake I'm sure as was the idea of including him in the poll.

Cartman78

Went with Sergio Kun Aguero.

It might be more interesting this week to have a Vice Captain Poll

Anyone else slightly worried that Aguero might be given a rest after all that running around and harrying against WBA & Barca?

VC Lukaku for me

TacT

I knew I needed that 3rd goal minus the booking from Sanchez last week. All aboard the Aguero wagon.

ArmaniJeanss

Stones.
10 weeks in and have played him 8 times, he has 2 clean sheets. Sigh.

km79

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Stones.
10 weeks in and have played him 8 times, he has 2 clean sheets. Sigh.

wrongg thread I hope

carnie

I voted Sanchez and then remembered Arsenal are playing Spurs. So will more than likely go with Kun

iroced

If last year is anything to go by, Agüero has 75% of chances to blank this GW.

I mean when a player was the dominant captain-obvious he failed 3 out of 4 times.


See picture below (click on it to enlarge). By my count, there's 7 successful captains-obvious out of 27 times (when I drew a dashed line, the player above it was an obvious captain pick ; when I drew 2, there were 2 main captains-obvious e.g. Agüero 60%, Sanchez 25% and the next one less than 10% - I did not take these ones into account since it doesn't match the current situation -).

F1ngers

^^^



:pac:

iroced

@ FIngers: Fixed now :cool:.

gammygils

Gundog? With Kun vice

wonski

Kun. real Kun, not some Kundogan.

Ted_YNWA

Kundog Mullionaire

greedygoblin

Gone with the Kun.

iroced

The poll this week is interesting.

I know some of you pick your players (transfers, captains, overall balance of the team, etc...) without any serious regard to their ownership popularity. e.g. if a player is owned by 50% of the game but you don't rate him, you won't get him in as a "blocker". Same goes with your captain picks.

Now. Of course, Agüero is not only a popular player in the game, he's one of the best if not THE best. So captaining him home to a promotted team doesn't seem open to debate. But 'Borough only conceded an average of 1 goal/game away. They silenced Arsenal in their last game and only cracked open once, to Everton (conceded 3).

As I said in my previous post, last year such a popular captaincy did not work out very well. People who avoided it got really stung only once (when Agüero bagged 5 vs Newcastle). For all the other cases, and without even considering the 75% failure rate, you could have gone for another decent a priori shout (e.g. a 'Pool mid this week) and do as well if not better than the obvious choice.

Just before I finish the blahblah and actually ask the question (:p), I'd say this GW is not the best example since there are not a lot of other great a priori choices (I mean Agüero could have the same super high (C) rates with a couple more decent shout for captaincy e.g. Deeney at home, Payet if WH weren't struggling that bad). So let's understand it as a general question.

So. Let's say one doesn't rate Agüero as a captain that high this GW. Would you ignore his huuuuuuge captain popularity (currently 67% in FFS poll, 92% here) and go with your preferred choice or would you give in to the masses opinion?

Username exists

Aguero TC

FHFC

For me when it's a player like Aguero who has capacity to score 15+ any given week, then if he's the runaway captain pick you follow the crowd.

In weeks where there is a spread of captain picks that's the week where you can go for a differential if you fancy one. I did that with Payet earlier this season andnit worked as everyone blanked. Payet only got an assist but it was still a win.

I fancy Austin this week, and if there was a big variance in captain choices I'd be tempted. But it's 100% on Aguero.

Mr.Prodston

Aguero, innit!

manual_man

The Kun and only

ElTel

iroced wrote: »

So. Let's say one doesn't rate Agüero as a captain that high this GW. Would you ignore his huuuuuuge captain popularity (currently 67% in FFS poll, 92% here) and go with your preferred choice or would you give in to the masses opinion?

I have not captained Kun since GW6. He got me good points 3 out of 4.
Sanchez got me only one good return from 4 with the armband whilst Aguero was injured and during the benching saga, but was a better pick than Kun.
I captained Deeney twice for 2 and 2, in GW8 when Kun failed and last week where it hurt.
I think I fall in the conservative camp and play like FHFC suggested. I think my Deeney pick against Hull is the sort of situation your referring to. He had 5% in the FFS poll I think and it was a closer poll than this week with the doubts still hanging over City.
So the poll has to be respected as it is a good indicator of the lay of the land and this is not a week to be a maverick imo.
As for my picks......3.2.3.2=10pts the last four weeks....Kun auto captain 18pts.

iroced

ElTel wrote: »

As for my picks......3.2.3.2=10pts the last four weeks....Kun auto captain 18pts.

Yeah that's an observation I had also made 2 years ago. Whatever auto-captain between Hazard, Agûero & Sanchez was better than trying to guess the best one every single GW.

As for this GW, I feel there is more to lose in case your punt fails than to win if it succeeds. Particularly that early in the season.

iroced

iroced wrote: »

If last year is anything to go by, Agüero has 75% of chances to blank this GW.

I mean when a player was the dominant captain-obvious he failed 3 out of 4 times.

Last year is EVERYTHING to go by !!! ...

This is not a complete fail though. But 6 pts with the likely 1 BPs could be well beaten by the 'Pool mids. We'll see. It's crazy though. With the exception of Agüero 5er vs Newcastle last year, when a captain was so largely voted for he never returned big. Thing is I'll never have the balls to go against it :pac:.

km79

iroced wrote: »

Last year is EVERYTHING to go by !!! ...

he scored !

iroced

km79 wrote: »

he scored !

Yeah but maximum 6 pts. Let's see what the 'Pool mids (and to a lesser extent Hazard-Costa) do.

km79

iroced wrote: »

Yeah but maximum 6 pts. Let's see what the 'Pool mids (and to a lesser extent Hazard-Costa) do.

Which pool mid though ? They may all score well or only one may
Will it be the right one ?
Too risky !
Anyway that game like today will NOT be a rout . Watford are solid

iroced

km79 wrote: »

Which pool mid though ? They may all score well or only one may
Will it be the right one ?
Too risky !
Anyway that game like today will NOT be a rout . Watford are solid

Coutinho, Firmino, Mané.
Just an assist and they pretty much match Agüero.

I'm not sure there's anything to conclude from this observation but I noted last year that such a captain only heavily rewarded once (Agüero vs Newcastle).

16 pts away to Pulis though it is not yet real Pulis this season and only 5-6 home to 'Borough. Pretty sure everyone would have bet the opposite? In the end, when we expect a routing it actually rarely happens.

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Everton have only conceded more than 1 goal in a game once all season.

FHFC wrote: »

Missing Gueye is a big loss defensively, but yeah I wouldn't expect them to be hammered.

Check out the big brains on us though!

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

Check out the big brains on us though!

nailed it:D

Shanotheslayer

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Aguero.

But am an Everton fan, I fully expect Costa to match Aguero this week.

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Everton have only conceded more than 1 goal in a game once all season.

I hate being this guy, but... Costa could have had a double hat trick.

When it comes to knowing how sh!t my team are going to do trust me :P

iroced

iroced wrote: »

Coutinho, Firmino, Mané.
Just an assist and they pretty much match Agüero.

Just an assist? Ah Feck me!

So. Who was the poster who started the "called it" last GW?

'Cause I feckin' called it :pac::rolleyes::pac:.