The Genius of Mesut Ozil

Bobby Baccala

niallo27 wrote: »

Ah jaysus man. Can you not just enjoy some wonderful footballers.

Of course I can, Coutinho can be just as enjoyable to watch as Ozil at times, sometimes more, but you've been harping on about Coutinho in this thread since the first page. We get it, you like him.

niallo27

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Of course I can, Coutinho can be just as enjoyable to watch as Ozil at times, sometimes more, but you've been harping on about Coutinho in this thread since the first page. We get it, you like him.

I do I like him a lot but I can still appreciate Ozil so it's all good.

Quazzie

niallo27 wrote: »

I do I like him a lot but I can still appreciate Ozil so it's all good.

I don't think you can because all you've done is appreciate Coutinho and diss Ozil.

niallo27

Quazzie wrote: »

I don't think you can because all you've done is appreciate Coutinho and diss Ozil.

In fairness I have only knocked ozil from being a genius and world class where I don't think he is.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

F*cking hell 13 pages in and still talking about Coutinho.

I'm out.

TheCitizen

KaiserGunner wrote: »

I don't think any Arsenal fan in this thread has gone on like we have won the league or champions league multiple times. So I don't know what the delusion comment is about. They are just saying what a top player Ozil is, nothing wrong with that.

He's not as good as they are making him out to be is the point. Also they seem to be very fragile. Maybe the other EPL fans on here have been taking the piss out of them too much for their team being perennial bottle merchants.

If Ozil was so good how come he's not won that much of note in his career, a World Cup medal with Germany and a La Liga title with Real and a few Cup medals, and that's it. I think he needs to win more before he is deserving of some of the superlatives that have been bestowed on him in this thread. Maybe it's a joke thread.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

So much bull shít.

TheCitizen

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

So much bull shít.

Indeed. starting with the op.

Quazzie

TheCitizen wrote: »

He's not as good as they are making him out to be is the point. Also they seem to be very fragile. Maybe the other EPL fans on here have been taking the piss out of them too much for their team being perennial bottle merchants.

If Ozil was so good how come he's not won that much of note in his career, a World Cup medal with Germany and a La Liga title with Real and a few Cup medals, and that's it. I think he needs to win more before he is deserving of some of the superlatives that have been bestowed on him in this thread. Maybe it's a joke thread.

Yea, sure Matt LeTissier was a terrible player too.

TheCitizen

Quazzie wrote: »

Yea, sure Matt LeTissier was a terrible player too.

Don't think anyone said Ozil was a terrible player, just undeserving of the ott gushing praise on this thread perhaps.

niallo27

World class players inspire their teams to greater heights. Have arsenal achieved this since ozil arrived.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

niallo27 wrote: »

World class players inspire their teams to greater heights. Have arsenal achieved this since ozil arrived.

Ronaldo and messi have never won a world cup. They must be terrible players. You think you're clever but you're just making yourself look really f*cking stupid now.

Quazzie

TheCitizen wrote: »

Don't think anyone said Ozil was a terrible player, just undeserving of the ott gushing praise on this thread perhaps.

No but you're saying that a players greatness is all down to his medal count.

niallo27 wrote: »

World class players inspire their teams to greater heights. Have arsenal achieved this since ozil arrived.

Eh.. yes. We went 8 years (?) without winning anything and have won two FA cups since he arrived and steadily climbed the table year on year. He's part of a building process and a vital one at that. He's not reached the heights we hope he will reach with Arsenal as we do hope there is more silverware to come, but he has steadily improved the team and already helped bring us silverware that we couldn't win without him.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

He will never reach the heights of finishing 8th place or wherever Coutinho usually finishes. If he was any good surely Liverpool would have won the PL by now?

niallo27

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

Ronaldo and messi have never won a world cup. They must be terrible players. You think you're clever but you're just making yourself look really f*cking stupid now.

Ronaldo won a European championship with a very average team. Messi lost two finals.

niallo27

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

He will never reach the heights of finishing 8th place or wherever Coutinho usually finishes. If he was any good surely Liverpool would have won the PL by now?

I thought you were done kid.

niallo27

Quazzie wrote: »

No but you're saying that a players greatness is all down to his medal count.

Eh.. yes. We went 8 years (?) without winning anything and have won two FA cups since he arrived and steadily climbed the table year on year. He's part of a building process and a vital one at that. He's not reached the heights we hope he will reach with Arsenal as we do hope there is more silverware to come, but he has steadily improved the team and already helped bring us silverware that we couldn't win without him.

I like you Quazzie. You Talk sense but arsenal have been very stagnant for the last few years. You can not deny this. Listen he is a brilliant player but arsenal need a player to inspire them to the next level. I actually want arsenal to reach these level, my best mate is an an arsenal fan and I want to see him happy.

Quazzie

niallo27 wrote: »

I like you Quazzie. You Talk sense but arsenal have been very stagnant for the last few years. You can not deny this. Listen he is a brilliant player but arsenal need a player to inspire them to the next level. I actually want arsenal to reach these level, my best mate is an an arsenal fan and I want to see him happy.

Arsenal have been stagnant. They are climbing the table, 3rd to 2nd, but still the same distance off the top in terms of points. I agree that Arsenal need a player to inspire them, but I think in the absence of said player, many players are stepping up. Ozil done it at the start of last year. Walcott and Sanchez in their current form are the ones we have now. Personally I think Mustafi and Coquelin answer two major questions in our team. Mustafi for me is a Mertesacker with some pace, and Coquelin is the grit in the team we needed for so long. I personally think Coquelin is the most underrated player in our team, because he lacks a price tag so people don't trust him because of it.

What we really need though is for the flash in the pan players (Sanchez and Walcott current form) to drag out their form over the course of a season, or even several seasons. On their day, Arsenal are the best in the league, and that is undeniable. Our issue is it's like we don't know till we're in the game if it's our day or not. We need to get consistency and bring the game to opposition instead of letting them dictate.

Anyways I'm rambling. To get back on topic. Ozil is an exceptional talent, and some might say he is wasting his talent at Arsenal, but I don't. He's part of something, and he might be part of something special hopefully very soon.

mansize

At least he's not a mercenary

niallo27

Quazzie wrote: »

Arsenal have been stagnant. They are climbing the table, 3rd to 2nd, but still the same distance off the top in terms of points. I agree that Arsenal need a player to inspire them, but I think in the absence of said player, many players are stepping up. Ozil done it at the start of last year. Walcott and Sanchez in their current form are the ones we have now. Personally I think Mustafi and Coquelin answer two major questions in our team. Mustafi for me is a Mertesacker with some pace, and Coquelin is the grit in the team we needed for so long. I personally think Coquelin is the most underrated player in our team, because he lacks a price tag so people don't trust him because of it.

What we really need though is for the flash in the pan players (Sanchez and Walcott current form) to drag out their form over the course of a season, or even several seasons. On their day, Arsenal are the best in the league, and that is undeniable. Our issue is it's like we don't know till we're in the game if it's our day or not. We need to get consistency and bring the game to opposition instead of letting them dictate.

Anyways I'm rambling. To get back on topic. Ozil is an exceptional talent, and some might say he is wasting his talent at Arsenal, but I don't. He's part of something, and he might be part of something special hopefully very soon.

And that is why you a great poster you talk sense but still see the problems.

gosplan

niallo27 wrote: »

And that is why you a great poster you talk sense but still see the problems.

Critical thinking, honesty, lack of bias. Whatever you want to call it, it's impressive.

YOU SHOULD TRY IT!!!!!

niallo27

gosplan wrote: »

Critical thinking, honesty, lack of bias. Whatever you want to call it, it's impressive.

YOU SHOULD TRY IT!!!!!

Yes possibly, i usually post with my heart though. jaysus im very near 10000 posts i dont want to waste it talking arsenal

gosplan

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes possibly, i usually post with my heart though. jaysus im very near 10000 posts i dont want to waste it talking arsenal

It's boards. Home of wasted time.

10,000 posts of meaningless blrugghhhh.

Think of having tried a new skill 10,000 times.

You'd be playing Mozart on the flute by now.

Gringo180

TheCitizen wrote: »

Christ what would Arsenal fans on here be like if they ever actually won a valued competition like the CL or their own league again? You'd swear they've won multiple league titles and CL's with Ozil as their main man by the way they're going on. Truth is they've never won the CL/European Cup - never - and the last time they won their domestic league was all of 12 seasons ago? Laughable delusion.:pac:

If only we played in a mickey mouse league like Celtic do every year :pac:

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes possibly, i usually post with my heart though. jaysus im very near 10000 posts i dont want to waste it talking arsenal

And yet here you are 15 pages deep..."kid"

Hugh Mungus

Hugh Mungus wrote: »

And yet here you are 15 pages deep..."kid"

If Ozil posted on boards he'd be on 5 pages

Mr.Crinklewood

Thought some on here would appreciate this

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tayto lover

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes possibly, i usually post with my heart though. jaysus im very near 10000 posts i dont want to waste it talking arsenal

Try using your head for a change niallo

mansize

RoboKlopp wrote: »

If Ozil posted on boards he'd be on 5 pages

And 95% quality posts



(Which beats the average by about 94%)

gosplan

niallo27 wrote: »

Yes possibly, i usually post with my heart though. jaysus im very near 10000 posts i dont want to waste it talking arsenal

Anyone near 10000 posts missed the opportunity to not waste time.

Christ, imagine what you'd be able to do with 10,000 shots at anything?

You'd probably be able to carve your own flute and then play Mozart on it.

Gringo180

Ozeeel even assisting the opposition :pac:

TheCitizen

Imagine if he scored that chance he had there which he would have if he was one of the real top players, this thread would 've went into meltdown. Good free kick just after it though.

TheCitizen

Gringo180 wrote: »

If only we played in a mickey mouse league like Celtic do every year :pac:

We don't have a choice about what domestic league we play in, not yet anyway. We did win the European Cup though.

Quazzie

TheCitizen wrote: »

Gringo180 wrote: »

If only we played in a mickey mouse league like Celtic do every year :pac:

We don't have a choice about what domestic league we play in, not yet anyway. We did win the European Cup though.

LOL. And I thought Liverpool fans lived in the past but to hear Celtic fans trying to validate their current club with a European cup win is as delusional as their manager. Celtic haven't been relevant since Rangers went down. No one gives a second though to Celtic anymore because when the derby died they might aswell have died too. Give it a year or two for Rangers to pick themselves up properly the world might care about ye again.

TheCitizen

Quazzie wrote: »

LOL. And I thought Liverpool fans lived in the past but to hear Celtic fans trying to validate their current club with a European cup win is as delusional as their manager. Celtic haven't been relevant since Rangers went down. No one gives a second though to Celtic anymore because when the derby died they might aswell have died too. Give it a year or two for Rangers to pick themselves up properly the world might care about ye again.

It's so sad that you don't care. Lol.

TheCitizen

Quazzie wrote: »

LOL. And I thought Liverpool fans lived in the past but to hear Celtic fans trying to validate their current club with a European cup win is as delusional as their manager. Celtic haven't been relevant since Rangers went down. No one gives a second though to Celtic anymore because when the derby died they might aswell have died too. Give it a year or two for Rangers to pick themselves up properly the world might care about ye again.

My stream stalled are ye still winning the battle of the bottle merchants?

Gringo180

TheCitizen wrote: »

My stream stalled are ye still winning the battle of the bottle merchants?

Only team in the history of the Premier Lge to go unbeaten in a season. Bottlers indeed :pac:

mansize

TheCitizen wrote: »

My stream stalled are ye still winning the battle of the bottle merchants?

Check Aertel

niallo27

Think we should change the name of this thread to couthino. Brilliant again today compared to an anonymous display by ozil.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

Think we should change the name of this thread to couthino. Brilliant again today compared to an anonymous display by ozil.

lol classic niallo27

Ozil a better player by a mile lad

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

lol classic niallo27

Ozil a better player by a mile lad

Gap is closing fast. He was unplayable again today.

mansize

niallo27 wrote: »

Think we should change the name of this thread to couthino. Brilliant again today compared to an anonymous display by ozil.

See Arsenal'a goal

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

Gap is closing fast. He was unplayable again today.

Coutinio has been good I will give you that and his consistency is improving
But he's still way off getting anywhere close to Ozil
Ozil is underrated for so long
And I'm a Utd fan, hate that Ozil plays for Arsenal

niallo27

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Coutinio has been good I will give you that and his consistency is improving
But he's still way off getting anywhere close to Ozil
Ozil is underrated for so long
And I'm a Utd fan, hate that Ozil plays for Arsenal

Oh I know who you support. Underrated by who, Arsenal fans are telling us for years he is one of the greatest players in the world.

niallo27

niallo27 wrote: »

Oh I know who you support. Underrated by who, Arsenal fans are telling us for years he is one of the greatest players in the world.

By everyone who is not an Arsenal fan

TheCitizen

M!Ck^ wrote: »

By everyone who is not an Arsenal fan

Don't think Ozil's underrated at all. He's definitely overrated by the op and his pals on this thread though.

TheCitizen

TheCitizen wrote: »

Don't think Ozil's underrated at all. He's definitely overrated by the op and his pals on this thread though.

Why so?

TheCitizen

Gringo180 wrote: »

Only team in the history of the Premier Lge to go unbeaten in a season. Bottlers indeed :pac:

That's a good while ago, it's a good spell since they won their domestic league as well.

mansize

TheCitizen wrote: »

Don't think Ozil's underrated at all. He's definitely overrated by the op and his pals on this thread though.

The irony of that statement from a Celtic fan...

mansize

TheCitizen wrote: »

That's a good while ago, it's a good spell since they won their domestic league as well.

I think you'll find its the same length of time...