Sure-Fire Signs That an area is Rough

Sunflower 27

Dog poo
Graffiti (words usually spelt wrong and a penis or two)

Hanwellian

Main streets without a bookshop.

Sunflower 27

Hanwellian wrote: »

Main streets without a bookshop.

Bookshop??? Wot dat?

Hanwellian

Rushing home from the Chipper to watch Britain's Got Talent, that Ant & Dec Saturday show, The X Factor etc.

ThisRegard

Hanwellian wrote: »

Community Centres full stop.

This came up before, it's a nonsense.

Hanwellian wrote: »

Rushing home from the Chipper to watch Britain's Got Talent, that Ant & Dec Saturday show, The X Factor etc.

How is this an area?

Walter H Price wrote: »

was the first in "me Community" to go to collage

Maybe you should have been first to go to adult literacy lessons, unless of course you did mean that you did art?

Walter H Price

ThisRegard wrote: »

This came up before, it's a nonsense.



How is this an area?



Maybe you should have been first to go to adult literacy lessons, unless of course you did mean that you did art?

Dyslexic, holds hands up

conorhal

One of these in every window.... no, not the cat...

BattleCorp

Sunflower 27 wrote: »

Bookshop??? Wot dat?

i tink its waaaa rich priks kall de bookies.

RobbieTheRobber

Walter H Price wrote: »

Dyslexic, holds hands up

Isn't that usually a sign of a bad area.

Glenster

conorhal wrote: »

One of these in every window....

Cats = Poor Old Ladies

Poor Old Ladies = A Kip.

keano_afc

The local corner shop sells loose cigarettes.
Painted over graffiti
Men in tracksuit bottoms and Nike Air Max.
Adults outside their houses in the afternoon drinking cans (I remember house hunting and viewing a place in an area where every house had people outside it drinking, at 3pm in the afternoon).
Men working on cars in their front gardens.
Jack Russels

Walter H Price

conorhal wrote: »

One of these in every window....

Yes , WTF is that i see it all over the place on the bus in and out of work through Cabra and there a wallpaper shop near the office in town that sells em.

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

Isn't that usually a sign of a bad area.

I don't think so at all , pretty sure its just a learning issue i'm from a solidly middle class family in a pretty nice area , just struggle with spelling to be honest, hasn't overly held me back career wise either.

Ol' Donie

conorhal wrote: »

One of these in every window....

Cats? A cat for every room in the house?

Ah, those weird matching statue yokes. Classsss-y.

Glenster

keano_afc wrote: »

The local corner shop sells loose cigarettes.

Does that actually happen in Ireland?

I remember being in rural India years ago and being amazed that they did that there in those shops that are a basically a shipping container on its side.

keano_afc

Glenster wrote: »

Does that actually happen in Ireland?

I remember being in rural India years ago and being amazed that they did that there in those shops that are a basically a shipping container on its side.

Yep, our local shop when I was younger sold "loose".

EDIT: yes, I was from a rough area.

conorhal

Walter H Price wrote: »

Yes , WTF is that i see it all over the place on the bus in and out of work through Cabra and there a wallpaper shop near the office in town that sells em.

:pac:

There's quite a good short youtube doc about it!

RobbieTheRobber

Walter H Price wrote: »

I don't think so at all , pretty sure its just a learning issue i'm from a solidly middle class family in a pretty nice area , just struggle with spelling to be honest, hasn't overly held me back career wise either.

I was making a joke about the "holds hands up" piece. In reference to being asked to hold hands up by police.

Anyway your bragging about your "solidly middle class family" is cringe inducing.

Walter H Price

RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

I was making a joke about the "holds hands up" piece. In reference to being asked to hold hands up by police.

Anyway your bragging about your "solidly middle class family" is cringe inducing.

apologies if i misinterpreted what you were saying

Hanwellian

Solicitors that specialise in 'compensation' claims advertising in local ' free ' newspapers.

County council Housing departments or Housing Associations having satellite offices in the town.

Ubbquittious

degsie wrote: »

The name: Bally(anything)

Ballyfyerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrmuth!

fg1406

People in their pyjamas during the day
Pubs that have no windows or keep their window shutters closed 24/7
Busses stop going into the area after dark
"Shops" set up in portacabins/shipping containers
Feral kids roaming the streets 24/7
Burned out cars
Boarded up houses
Horses roaming freely
People disposing of household rubbish via bonfire on the green
Crime scene unit visiting the area on an almost weekly basis
'Ra were the local "law" enforcers

(I lived in an area like this and all of the above is based on first hand experience)

Sunflower 27

I was from a tough area, although not in Ireland. I grew up seeing 'Bong on (insert name of town)' graffiti everywhere.

Its somewhat surprising 'bong' wasn't my first word

Richard Hillman

Random Barking
Pedestrian Flyovers that have high inward curving bars
A tacky looking local church

RobbieTheRobber

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Random Barking
Pedestrian Flyovers that have high inward curving bars
A tacky looking local church

All churches are tacky tawdry places.

Glenster

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Random Barking

Lol.

whiskeyman

A tiny proportion of hipsters, desperately hoping that area will become the new Hipster hotspot.

Hanwellian

When your child is the only one in the class without ADHD.

When your child comes home having learnt another 'European or African' language that is not Irish/French /German.

When the first question a Pharmacist or Doctor's receptionist asks you is
'Do you have a medical card'.

jjbrien

fg1406 wrote: »

People in their pyjamas during the day


"Shops" set up in portacabins/shipping containers



Crime scene unit visiting the area on an almost weekly basis

Looks like craggy island makes the list then

Stephen15

Grown men wearing football jerseys

Hanwellian

Stephen15 wrote: »

Grown men wearing football jerseys

Yes, Man Utd/Liverpool/Celtic, never League of Ireland teams. And these that wear British club shirts are those that are anti-British in other areas of life.

Brendan Bendar

Hanwellian wrote: »

Yes, Man Utd/Liverpool/Celtic, never League of Ireland teams. And these that wear British club shirts are those that are anti-British in other areas of life.[/QUOTE]

:eek:

Jaysus!!

jca

Stephen15 wrote: »

Houses with loads of outside christmas lights

In June:pac:

steddyeddy

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Yeah Bray checks all those boxes.

Lots of burnt out cars & fire ruins in fields that used to be used for kids football matches also.

I'm anything but a snob but I can't stand Bray.

Stephen15

Also an ice cream van that sells everthing and comes around in the winter.

bazza1

Joan Burton in a car....surrounded by "fans"

retalivity

Pallets randomly lying on the pavement.
Rough road surfaces
A clearance bar to stop oversized vehicles getting in/out of a place

Wibbs

Very few trees lining the streets. For some reason trees are to be uprooted or burnt or whatever in many such areas. I knew a lad who lived in an place that was roughly(no pun) divided into a nice folks area and not so nice folks area, or at least the percentages gravitated according to locale*. The houses and streets were identical when they were built at the same time, but the "rough area" had very few street trees. Trees which had been planted in both areas when new. After a few decades one area was a "leafy suburb" the other was not. It fascinated me at the time.




*not saying the "rough area" had no nice people. Not at all. The majority were, but there was a minority that got large enough to impact everyone in the wider context. It doesn't take that many to turn a nice place into a shithole for everybody. You could transplant those people/families into the "nice" area and cook for ten years and you'd see the changes.

Dyr

Wibbs wrote: »

Very few trees lining the streets. For some reason trees are to be uprooted or burnt or whatever in many such areas. I knew a lad who lived in an place that was roughly(no pun) divided into a nice folks area and not so nice folks area, or at least the percentages gravitated according to locale*. The houses and streets were identical when they were built at the same time, but the "rough area" had very few street trees. Trees which had been planted in both areas when new. After a few decades one area was a "leafy suburb" the other was not. It fascinated me at the time.

theres actually a reason for this but its not what you'd think. The Council control "rough" ares and will answer to no one when it comes to pulling down trees for whatever changes they want to make. Whereas in more mature areas they just can't get away with it.

There was a study done on it
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/street-trees-proliferate-in-wealthy-areas-reveals-city-research-1.2552994


I know in my area the council paid some pratt of a german artist to do something artistic so he decided that as there were very few trees in the neighborhood that people should be "given" the opportunity to sponsor a tree based on the logic if they paid for it that they'd look after it. The level of neo liberal delusion is staggering. And when they actually went ahead with it they planted the mangiest saplings you'd find


of course it never occurred to this clown that the council who were funding the project were the same guys who ripped up the neighborhoods tree's in the first place.

Victor

Bambi wrote: »

theres actually a reason for this but its not what you'd think. The Council control "rough" ares and will answer to no one when it comes to pulling down trees for whatever changes they want to make.

Why would the council remove trees?

conorhal

Victor wrote: »

Why would the council remove trees?

Maintainance costs, they have to be trimmed to avoid overhang or interfering with overhead power and phone lines, then of course they clog the gutters every Autumn which then need to be cleared.
Councils generally can't be arsed with that because that's money which could be better spent on junkets to conferences on roundabouts in San Francisco or visiting whatever US town they've twinned themselves with...

Pinch Flat

Overly decorative guttering, porches with faux Georgian pillars and that tacky beading on the windows usually mean stay away.

Wibbs

Bambi wrote: »

theres actually a reason for this but its not what you'd think. The Council control "rough" ares and will answer to no one when it comes to pulling down trees for whatever changes they want to make. Whereas in more mature areas they just can't get away with it.

True B, though in the particular place I mentioned both were council areas(well it was one area originally but slowly separated into "bad/good"). At least initially. Over time I suppose more people bought their house in the "nice" area. I further suppose that if you own your gaff you're more involved and invested in the surroundings, more likely to take care of the surroundings and more likely to press the council to replant fallen trees for example.

Sgt Hartman

I'm from a working class area which was a fantastic place to grow up back in the 80's and 90's. It's gone to the dogs in recent years though. This is what I see now if I'm in the area, or similar areas.

.Big dogs such as alsations or rottweilers roaming the roads, often rummaging through a torn black bag full of rubbish.

.Large boulders lining the edges of green areas to prevent joyriders from driving onto the green to burn the vehicles out.

.Some tracksuit wearing drug addled zombie with barely two teeth in his head and using a crutch to get around irritating passers by with lines such as "d'ya have a euro on yuh boss?" or "d'ya have a fag boss?"

.Females of all ages wandering around in badly fitting tracksuits or filthy pyjamas. Many are quite obese mainly due to poor diet and lack of education.

Richard Hillman

People whistling loudly
Park entrances with bike blockades
Kids walking around with stereo systems
Greens and Parks that don't have a sign to say "No Golfing"

Jack the Stripper

Bottle banks in visible locations in a town.

Cortina_MK_IV

White porcelain reclining lady statue in every window.

Jack the Stripper

A Lidl and Aldi within 100 metres of each other.

jca

Richard Hillman wrote: »

People whistling loudly
Park entrances with bike blockades
Kids walking around with stereo systems
Greens and Parks that don't have a sign to say "No Golfing"

Stereo systems? Ah here, have you been locked up since 1990?

Jack the Stripper

10 or more community workers cutting grass.

PowerToWait

Walter H Price wrote: »

Yes , WTF is that i see it all over the place on the bus in and out of work through Cabra just struggle with spelling to be honest, hasn't overly held me back career wise either.

You're taking the bus to work, you're not doing that great. As we're being judgmental **** you understand.