Driving under the speed limit

The Backwards Man

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You are age 21 no? How much can you really know about driving in all Europe?

Reminds me of the time a young lorry driver was telling this old timer the best way into Rungis in Paris. The oul buck let him preach away for a while and he eventually asked him how many times he'd been there. 'Twice' says the young pup, 'you can follow me in this time'

'Well I've been going twice a week for thirty years so I don't need to follow you' says the oul lad, 'and I'd rather you didn't follow me either'

Pac1Man

"Leave earlier"

"It's a limit, not a target."

I think we can spot the slow drivers.

M94

India Rich Pinkeye wrote: »

Have you actually driven in Germany? There are slow vehicles on their single lane roads too.

Nowhere near the level as in Ireland. That's like saying there is poor people in every country, of course there is even in the richest countries there is poor people but not on the same level.

ThisRegard

M94 wrote: »

Assumptions again. No I do not think that, what I know and not think is that cars that drive slowly stay on the right and let faster drivers pass them instead of driving slowly and causing tailbacks. So anymore assumptions?

I've long since assumed you change your argument with every post, you were talking about people driving at 200 a few posts ago. The main topic being people driving under the limit but now you're talking about lane discipline.

M94

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Reminds me of the time a young lorry driver was telling this old timer the best way into Rungis in Paris. The oul buck let him preach away for a while and he eventually asked him how many times he'd been there. 'Twice' says the young pup, 'you can follow me in this time'

'Well I've been going twice a week for thirty years so I don't need to follow you' says the oul lad, 'and I'd rather you didn't follow me either'

I was driving outside of Ireland for longer than in so assumptions again.

yes there

ThisRegard wrote:

It's not obvious, explain your logic?

Sarah, Frank and George leave for work at 9. They all travel on the same road which is 100k for the most part. According to Google maps or sat navs they should arrive 5mins early. This is obvious to all and has been the case for a few months now. Things are great and commuting is a pleasure.

One morning though they and many others are stuck behind someone doing 80k on the road. To compound matters anytime a stretch of road occurs where there is an opportunity to pass, the "driver" in front speeds up a bit making it too dangerous to attempt overtaking.

All and many others are late for work. Road rage and being late for work has soured many people's morning.

ThisRegard

FortySeven wrote: »

I'm age 39 and have years of experience driving in Ireland, UK, Germany, France, Belgium and Poland.

This is largely an Irish issue in my experience. Possibly due to the terrible roads, partly due to the standard of past driving tests, partly the amnesty and partly the allowance of driving on l plates for decades. (Thankfully this one has been dealt with)

Its not an Irish issue, you find people driving below the limit everywhere, and it's not a problem.

The Backwards Man

Pac1Man wrote: »

"Leave earlier"

"It's a limit, not a target."

I think we can spot the slow drivers.

I'm finding it hard to spot the slow drivers on this thread, but the impatient, the rash, the reckless, and the downright dangerous stand out a mile.

M94

ThisRegard wrote: »

I've long since assumed you change your argument with every post, you were talking about people driving at 200 a few posts ago. The main topic being people driving under the limit but now you're talking about lane discipline.

There is poor lane discipline in Ireland and poor following of the speed limits.

M94

ThisRegard wrote: »

Its not an Irish issue, you find people driving below the limit everywhere, and it's not a problem.

If you say that it is not an Irish issue then you have never driven outside Ireland or UK.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

M94 wrote: »

Nowhere near the level as in Ireland. That's like saying there is poor people in every country, of course there is even in the richest countries there is poor people but not on the same level.

Not in my experience and I've driven in Germany for a couple of weeks at a time for decades.

What are you basing your assumptions on? Read the earlier post too. Road death rates are higher in Germany than Ireland.

ThisRegard

yes there wrote: »

Sarah, Frank and George leave for work at 9. They all travel on the same road which is 100k for the most part. According to Google maps or sat navs they should arrive 5mins early. This is obvious to all and has been the case for a few months now. Things are great and commuting is a pleasure.

One morning though they and many others are stuck behind someone doing 80k on the road. To compound matters anytime a stretch of road occurs where there is an opportunity to pass, the "driver" in front speeds up a bit making it too dangerous to attempt overtaking.

All and many others are late for work. Road rage and being late for work has soured many people's morning.

Sarah, Frank and George need to get real. A 20kph difference over what realistically may be only 10 minutes or so will make little difference to their journey time.

The Backwards Man

yes there wrote: »

Sarah, Frank and George leave for work at 9. They all travel on the same road which is 100k for the most part. According to Google maps or sat navs they should arrive 5mins early. This is obvious to all and has been the case for a few months now. Things are great and commuting is a pleasure.

One morning though they and many others are stuck behind someone doing 80k on the road. To compound matters anytime a stretch of road occurs where there is an opportunity to pass, the "driver" in front speeds up a bit making it too dangerous to attempt overtaking.

All and many others are late for work. Road rage and being late for work has soured many people's morning.

If they had a puncture, came on the scene of an accident, or encountered a joint department checkpoint they'd be well fcuked then wouldn't they?

Marcusm

M94 wrote: »

In my opinion driving under the speed limit creates dangerous situations and almost always results in tailgating or other types of aggressive driving. You can see it every day, people overtaking dangerously on 1 lane roads because for some reason some people drive under the speed limit. Now I am not sure about this rule in Ireland during the driving test but I know that driving slower than 10 km/h of the posted limit results in a driving test failure reason being disrupting the flow of traffic in many other European Union countries. What is your opinion on this?

Under test conditions it's referred to as failing to make progress.

ThisRegard

M94 wrote: »

If you say that it is not an Irish issue then you have never driven outside Ireland or UK.

Evidently a hell of a lot more than you. You're falling into the trap of believing you're the only one to have lived outside of Ireland.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

M94 wrote: »

I was driving outside of Ireland for longer than in so assumptions again.

Emm... You said elsewhere that you are 21; so you have very little driving experience - anywhere.

M94

ThisRegard wrote: »

Evidently a hell of a lot more than you. You're falling into the trap of believing you're the only one to have lived outside of Ireland.

I don't know where you have been but we must not have been in the same country then. I believe you just made this up just to argue with me as I am not that stupid not to see that you have a problem with me and no matter what I will say you will always disagree with me.

M94

India Rich Pinkeye wrote: »

Emm... You said elsewhere that you are 21; so you have very little driving experience - anywhere.

Enough to see the difference. I have my driving licence for over 3 years.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

M94 wrote: »

I don't know where you have been but we must not have been in the same country then. I believe you just made this up just to argue with me as I am not that stupid not to see that you have a problem with me and no matter what I will say you will always disagree with me.

It seems more that you are determined to argue regardless of facts or experience.

The Backwards Man

M94 wrote: »

Enough to see the difference. I have my driving licence for over 3 years.

Aren't you great?

yes there

The Backwards Man wrote:

If they had a puncture, came on the scene of an accident, or encountered a joint department checkpoint they'd be well fcuked then wouldn't they?

Should you not be starting your ten minute commute to work for the morning around now?

Aineoil

Pac1Man wrote: »

"Leave earlier"

"It's a limit, not a target."

I think we can spot the slow drivers.

Sad post

M94

India Rich Pinkeye wrote: »

It seems more that you are determined to argue regardless of facts or experience.

I don't argue with facts. After being to different states you can see the difference and I don't think you need to be a genius to see it.

FortySeven

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Aren't you great?

I've been driving in Europe for 25 years and I'm making the same argument.

Am I great?

Stheno

endacl wrote: »

Your car + other people not behaving the way you want = all your threads.

I reckon i've figured this one out!after op left his house and got a parking fine for parking without a permit it was slow moving traffic on the n2 which caused the ambulance to drive on the hard shoulder and spray grit at ops immaculate car.

Ergo it's the slow moving driver op should pure.

An op should never drive in Drumcondra during the rush hour when ambulances regularly scream up the wrong side of he road into oncoming traffic

M94

Stheno wrote: »

I rekindle I've figured this one out!after opening left his house and got a parking fine for parking without a permit it was slow moving traffic on television n2 which caused the ambulance to drive on the hard shoulder and spray grit at ops immaculate car.

Ergo it's the slow moving driver op should pure.

An op should never drive in Drumcondra during the rush hour when ambulances regularly scream up the wrong side of he road into oncoming traffic

Luckily I don't, I will be getting rid of my car and getting a motorcycle so I don't have to deal with any of this.

ThisRegard

M94 wrote: »

I don't know where you have been but we must not have been in the same country then. I believe you just made this up just to argue with me as I am not that stupid not to see that you have a problem with me and no matter what I will say you will always disagree with me.

All you have to do is do a search on my posting history to see you're wrong.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

M94 wrote: »

Luckily I don't, I will be getting rid of my car and getting a motorcycle so I don't have to deal with any of this.

Make sure you carry a tenner in cash for petrol, because some garages will charge you for using your card on small purchases and we know you refuse to carry cash on you.

allthedoyles

Wonder what the OP thinks of the adverts /slogan " speed kills "
Respect other road users and drive according to present conditions .
Attempting to reach the speed limit at all times is ridiculous

Stheno

M94 wrote: »

Luckily I don't, I will be getting rid of my car and getting a motorcycle so I don't have to deal with any of this.

Please don't become one of those m9torcyclists who weaves in and out.

BTW there's a motorbiking forum, I'm sure they'd love to have you