If England and Scotland defy the poppy ban...

Fratton Fred

bucketybuck wrote: »

I doubt FIFA really do give a **** about it, and had the FA said nothing and just went ahead with it there probably wouldn't have been anything said.

Surely the problem is not the poppy, its that the FA specifically said that they were going to do something that is against the rules, they highlighted the rule and then they broke the rule. It was shoved in their face so FIFA simply have to respond, what else can they do?

Gods sake, the last thing I want is to defend FIFA but who created this whole situation in the first place?

And the SFA of course, in fact it seemed to be them that were leading the whole thing. Anyone that follows the English team though, will never be surprised at the FA's ability to **** things up.

Fratton Fred

Fratton Fred wrote: »

And the SFA of course, in fact it seemed to be them that were leading the whole thing. Anyone that follows the English team though, will never be surprised at the FA's ability to **** things up.

It would undermine either FA's whole point about just about how important the poppy issue is...if they didn't bother to ask for this agreement in writing or make a note of who said what to who, if indeed they were given assurances at the time that it was not an issue.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

Fratton Fred wrote: »

And the SFA of course, in fact it seemed to be them that were leading the whole thing. Anyone that follows the English team though, will never be surprised at the FA's ability to **** things up.

Don't know how you come up with it was the SFA leading it The English FA were first to say they were wearing the poppy but to be honest it makes no difference. I reckon FIFA have lost the plot now

bobbysands81

eagle eye wrote: »

Why the hell do soccer fans care about this stuff? Don't we come here to talk about football? This thread isn't about football at all imo

So why didn't you post about football so?

Sport and politics are inseparable. This thread is proof.

citytillidie

So all 4 "home" nations got a fine that totals £80,000 between them

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38368144

Mr.Nice Guy

Slap on the wrist really.

It will be interesting what happens in future years since further instances of defying the ban will presumably be dealt with more harshly.

LiamoSail

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

Slap on the wrist really.

It will be interesting what happens in future years since further instances of defying the ban will presumably be dealt with more harshly.

They see themselves as being victims of political correctness and they'll carry on regardless.

The rules are for other countries politics, not British politics. Think of the shame the FA would suffer domestically were they not to honour the men and women who illegally invaded Iraq and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

Fratton Fred

LiamoSail wrote: »

They see themselves as being victims of political correctness and they'll carry on regardless.

The rules are for other countries politics, not British politics. Think of the shame the FA would suffer domestically were they not to honour the men and women who illegally invaded Iraq and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians.

and the FAI? are the rules for other countries as well?

Dirty Dingus McGee

Fratton Fred wrote: »

and the FAI? are the rules for other countries as well?

The FAI were fined as well and deservedly so.The FAI look like they aren't going to appeal the fine so have accepted FIFA's verdict and basically admitted they were wrong.The FA have decided to appeal.

It would be a real embarrassment if the FAI appeal because they were clearly in the wrong and I hope they don't appeal.

Good news.

Hopefully the beginning of end for the poppy police

OldMrBrennan83

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Jayop

Ireland's fine is below the threshold for which you can lodge an appeal anyway.

LiamoSail

Fratton Fred wrote: »

and the FAI? are the rules for other countries as well?

The FAI were daft to do it, and most likely did it out of ignorance of the rules. Whatever their reasons though it certainly wasn't done with the attitude of supremacy the FA demonstarted.

I suppose too that the 1916 tribute isn't as relevant today as the poppy. There's not refugees drowning in the Mediterranean today because of the 1916 rebels

Dirty Dingus McGee

Patww79 wrote: »

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Where did I say the FA were correct.I only responded about the FAI because that was the question posed.

Both were wrong and the FAI and FA have been deservedly fined.

keeponhurling

I think it was a bad decision, and sets a bad precedent.

The FA knew in advance that they were breaking the rules, and did it anyways.
Giving them a small fine just shows that big third world countries can easily break these rules when it suits.

They should have gotten a points deduction, playing behind closed doors, or some sort of punishment which does not discriminate between rich and poor.

Fratton Fred

LiamoSail wrote: »

The FAI were daft to do it, and most likely did it out of ignorance of the rules. Whatever their reasons though it certainly wasn't done with the attitude of supremacy the FA demonstarted.

ignorance is no defence.

there were four footballs associations fined, were they all displaying "Supremecy" as you call it or was it just the FA?

LiamoSail wrote: »

I suppose too that the 1916 tribute isn't as relevant today as the poppy. There's not refugees drowning in the Mediterranean today because of the 1916 rebels

keeponhurling wrote: »

I think it was a bad decision, and sets a bad precedent.

The FA knew in advance that they were breaking the rules, and did it anyways.
Giving them a small fine just shows that big third world countries can easily break these rules when it suits.

there were four footballs associations fined, shold they all have been treated the same?

keeponhurling wrote: »

They should have gotten a points deduction, playing behind closed doors, or some sort of punishment which does not discriminate between rich and poor.

yes, this is by far the most serious of crimes and is easily on a par with fans repeatedly throwing racist insults at players.:rolleyes:

LiamoSail

Fratton Fred wrote: »

ignorance is no defence.

there were four footballs associations fined, were they all displaying "Supremecy" as you call it or was it just the FA?

Confused? Well turn on the news and look the kids that Britain made refugees drowning in the Mediterranean. It's happening now.

The poopy represents the good and bad of Britains military history and these deaths occurring everyday are a consequence of the bad

keeponhurling

Fratton Fred wrote: »

there were four footballs associations fined, shold they all have been treated the same?



yes, this is by far the most serious of crimes and is easily on a par with fans repeatedly throwing racist insults at players.:rolleyes:

Yes should be treated the same, if they do the same.

Are you saying breaking FIFA rules is OK as long as it's not racist? Or are you just engaging in some whataboutery? There's probably a seperate thread about racism somewhere.

Fratton Fred

LiamoSail wrote: »

Confused? Well turn on the news and look the kids that Britain made refugees drowning in the Mediterranean. It's happening now.

The really sad thing, is that you probably believe that

LiamoSail

Fratton Fred wrote: »

The really sad thing, is that you probably believe that

It's what's happening right now. Turn on the news. This is a consequence of Britain's illegal invasion of Iraq.

Fratton Fred

LiamoSail wrote: »

It's what's happening right now. Turn on the news. This is a consequence of Britain's illegal invasion of Iraq.

have the schools broken up already?

LiamoSail

Fratton Fred wrote: »

have the schools broken up already?

You haven't offered any argument, just insult.

Anyway, it's only foreigners dying. Better that than them ending up in England eh??

Fratton Fred

LiamoSail wrote: »

You haven't offered any argument, just insult.

Anyway, it's only foreigners dying. Better that than them ending up in England eh??

:rolleyes: