Tragic situation involving a neighbour's cat

Mr. FoggPatches

Its a cat. Tell them to get another one. Move on.

Summer wind

Horrible thing to see happen. I've seen it myself where a dog will pick up a cat by the back of the neck and shake it until it's neck breaks. Really though cats are made to roam and its unusual enough when the cat does not get the upper hand in a fight with a dog. I don't think the dog was at fault because he was just following his instincts and unfortunately the cat was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

newacc2015

magentis wrote: »

Really annoying that actually.A legal requirement to have a dog licence,but cats are free to roam unlicenced into other peoples property,upsetting their dogs and often crawling all over cars scratching the paint work

A dog license is nothing more than a renamed tax. There is no restrictions on who gets it and what breed you have. Calling it a license was a nice way to rename the tax, like the Government did with USC and the pension levy. The money is used on funding the pounds around the country

Advbrd

So a dog killed a cat. It's unusual but it happens. To suggest that the dog in this case should be put down is entirely preposterous.

randy hickey

My dog ate pussy
For the first time today
But the pussy in question
Wasn't quite a stray

There's been a whole commotion
And the neighbour's in a flap
They say there must be consequences
For this dog that's tasted cat.

magentis

I really think its something that needs to be looked at.Why on earth should a dog owner be required by law to have their pet licenced,whilst on the other hand a cat owner doesn't and feels its ok to let their pet be a nuisance to their neighbours,defecate wherever it feels like and often cause damage to other peoples property with no repercusions.Ridiculous when you think about it.surely cat owners should be legally obliged to keep their animals under control on their own property.

learn_more

randy hickey wrote: »

My dog ate pussy
For the first time today
But the pussy in question
Wasn't quite a stray

There's been a whole commotion
And the neighbour's in a flap
They say there must be consequences
For this dog that's tasted cat.

I know the cat's dead
'twas a really bad end
but has to be said
I like dogs more

darkpagandeath

Has anyone tried to turn the cat into a child yet for the old Emotive angle ?

Sam Quentin

Cats are crazy suicidal freaks anyway, I'm sure he's happy now







I apologise to any cat lovers, am just joking and stuff

Pkiernan

Think of all the wild song birds that your dog has saved.

darkpagandeath

Pkiernan wrote: »

Think of all the wild song birds that your dog has saved.

Cats.

I was full sure that the pic attached was going to be of the mangled pussy cat!!

Advbrd

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Cats.

???

magentis

magentis wrote: »

Ridiculous when you think about it.surely cat owners should be legally obliged to keep their animals under control on their own property.

But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

tomwaterford

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

Perhaps they shouldn't complain then if they roam into people's gardens and get killed by other animal's in the garden

Advbrd

Deleted User wrote: »

But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

Wait until they bring this lad back.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/earthnews/11457882/Wild-lynx-to-return-to-Britain-after-1300-years.html

petrolcan

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Has anyone tried to turn the cat into a child yet for the old Emotive angle ?

It's a well known fact that a dog that is cruel to cats can go on and be cruel to others.

Should be locked up and the key thrown away!!!

<insert smiley here>

Of course the dog shouldn't be put down. Good points made about how much the cat must have killed on its wanderings.
Careful the neighbour doesn't start throwing dodgy meat over to the dog next if they're that upset

TPD

Another vote for the dog doing no wrong. Should maybe set up a camera covering the back garden / fences in case the neighbour does try anything.

Mickeroo

If you let your cat roam then you have to be willing to accept there's a chance they might not come back at some point. I understand why the cat owner is upset, I'd be upset myself in that situation, but really it's not logical to try and blame the dog or its owners.

DrPhilG

suicide_circus wrote: »

if they're doolally enough to think your dog should be put down for this, they may be doolally enough to try and poison your dog if they don't get their way.

This would be my worry. When I lived in a busy estate I was always very careful not to have any disputes even when I had grounds to complain about something, because I always worried what some scummer might do when I'm not home.

On the flip side, while I agree that the cat owner has no grounds to complain for what happened and certainly no grounds to insist on the dog being put down, I don't think it's "normal behaviour" for the dog to rip apart a cat like that. I have 2 dogs and 5 cats and I would slap the sh*t out of either dog if she showed any aggression towards the cat, or the other dogs.

I have a Rottweiler and a Jack Russell, both dogs who most would assume to be dangerous to cats (and people) and neither one would dare to show any aggression to the cats. The Rottie treats the youngest kitten like her pup.

Discodog

In case the neighbour is in touch with the dog warden make sure that you muzzle the dog in public, just as a precaution.

It's harder to socialise a rescue dog with cats but it's a good idea.

seamus

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Strange to see a dog kill a cat, it's usually the cat who would be in control 99% of time.
Cats don't take crap from dogs. Cats take on pitbulls, bears, mountain lions and win.

That's only the videos that make it online.

99% of the time the cat sees the bear first or can run faster. Animals that are unfamiliar with cats will be startled and cautious around a hissing, scraping furball. And dogs that have been well socialised with cats will only want to play.

But all other larger animals familiar with cats, won't be slow to kill one if they can catch it.

mojesius

I have three terriers (yes, god loves a terrier) and we are surrounded by cats. The house behind us alone has 5 or 6 cats, They drive the dogs bananas running along the walltops, clawing down at them, pissing in the garden when the dogs are stuck inside.

If the bigger terrier ever caught up with one, he could do a cat serious damage. It's his garden, not the cats. Frankly if my enemy pissed in my garden or tried to scratch my eyes out when i'm trying to enjoy a sunny day relaxing outside on my property, I'd be a bit pissed off and would take any necessary measures to halt said enemy in their tracks.

As I type this, the dogs are busy upstairs building mini cluster bombs in the attic.

fryup

Pkiernan wrote: »

Think of all the wild song birds that your dog has saved.

yes, i'm sure they're singing his praises this morning

MeatTwoVeg

TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.

Fleawuss

State funeral for the cat. Counseling and probation for the dog. Choirs of angels provided by surviving songbirds.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.

Cats kill way more than dogs. Like mini tigers they are, patrolling residential areas. Maybe they're the ones not suitable to residental area living?

MeatTwoVeg

LexieOnRale wrote:

Cats kill way more than dogs. Like mini tigers they are, patrolling residential areas. Maybe they're the ones not suitable to residental area living?

I'd rather take my chances against a cat than an aggressive Alsatian.

muddypaws

Deleted User wrote: »

But cats roam. And let's face it, you don't read many "child mauled to death by cat" stories. So there are reasons why the control requirements differ.

And you've never read a story about that happening in Ireland involving a dog either.

Pkiernan

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.

Do you live in Opposite Land? Dogs kill cats.
Wolves kill deer. Cats kill mice.

MeatTwoVeg

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

TBH putting aside the issue of whether the cat should have been in your garden, your dog sounds worryingly aggressive. Given the breed in question, it's not appropriate to have such an animal in a residential environment.

Was kinda wrestling with this idea too.

I mean like, if a dog mauls another reasonably large animal to death, while it might not be the dog's fault, it's not of no concern whatsoever either. And it might be at least suggested that the dog needs to be removed from an environment. What if a kid tries to get his ball back...

muddypaws

muddypaws wrote: »

And you've never read a story about that happening in Ireland involving a dog either.

Ah.

The only bad dogs is forrinn dogs...:D

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Deleted User wrote: »

Was kinda wrestling with this idea too.

I mean like, if a dog mauls another reasonably large animal to death, while it might not be the dog's fault, it's not of no concern whatsoever either. And it might be at least suggested that the dog needs to be removed from an environment. What if a kid tries to get his ball back...

What if my granny had wheels? She'd be a bike.

What if the child kicks a ball into a field with a bull in it?
What if the child falls over the wall and breaks his neck?
You can't live your life on the what ifs of the safety of an imaginary child having the right to tresspass onto another's property.

MeatTwoVeg

Deleted User wrote:

What if a kid tries to get his ball back...

Presumably it'll be the kid's fault for going into the back garden.

MeatTwoVeg

LexieOnRale wrote:

child having the right to tresspass onto another's property.

Yep, victim blaming.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Yep, victim blaming.

Who's the victim? You don't scale a wall and hop into someone else's back garden.

Allinall

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

Yep, victim blaming.

Of course you blame the victim.

It would have been their fault.

fryup

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Who's the victim? You don't scale a wall and hop into someone else's back garden.

cats do that from time to time

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

fryup wrote: »

cats do that from time to time

Now we're talking about imaginary children

MeatTwoVeg

LexieOnRale wrote:

Who's the victim? You don't scale a wall and hop into someone else's back garden.

I get from your posts that you hate children, but I presume you were one at one stage?

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

I get from your posts that you hate children, but I presume you were one at one stage?

What's my feelings about kids got to do with anything? Irregardless of whether or not I like or dislike kids I wouldn't stand back and watch them hurt themselves. I would go mad at a child climbing over my wall into my garden. Knock on the door, and I'll let them in through the house to get the ball. If they fell and hurt themselves, it'll be me that's sued, or they'd be laying in the garden until someone came home. It's not acceptable for children to scale walls and enter onto other peoples property.

MarkR

I'd invest in a security camera for the back garden. You can get them pretty cheap now on aliexpress and the like. You're dog did doggy things. Unfortunate for the cat, but sh*t happens. Can't see why cat couldn't make it up that pole to be honest. I've seen them run up concrete block walls.

LexieOnRale

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Who's the victim? You don't scale a wall and hop into someone else's back garden.

Ah come on.

They do. All the time. On every street in Ireland. Do you think the kids playing football wait till the neighbours come home, then line up at the door and politely ask to retrieve their ball?

They don't.

LexieOnRale wrote: »

If they fell and hurt themselves, it'll be me that's sued, or they'd be laying in the garden until someone came home...

Unlikely, under the Occupier's Liability Act.

muddypaws

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah.

The only bad dogs is forrinn dogs...:D

Well if you want to go on foreign stories, I'm sure you will find some of children being killed by cats, I live in Ireland, we're talking about Irish law, but you work away.

muddypaws

muddypaws wrote: »

Well if you want to go on foreign stories, I'm sure you will find some of children being killed by cats, I live in Ireland, we're talking about Irish law, but you work away.

No no, we are not talking about Irish law at all.

You see...dogs don't understand the law.

We are talking about the difference between attacks by cats and dogs, and the dangers posed by each. Hilariously, you think Irish dogs are more respectful of the law than foreign dogs. I live in the real world but you work away.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Deleted User wrote: »

Ah come on.

They do. All the time. On every street in Ireland. Do you think the kids playing football wait till the neighbours come home, then line up at the door and politely ask to retrieve their ball?

They don't.



Unlikely, under the Occupier's Liability Act.

You have a duty of care to anyone who enters your property. If my dog bites a child on my property, I can and probably will, be sued. Come on Conor, you know this better than most I'm sure.
If a child falls and breaks his arm or tears himself on wire or falls on a garden fork and is impaled on it, there's nothing to stop his ambulance chasing parents to be straight on top of me.

Dyr

When I was kid we knew if you kicked the ball over into a neighbors garden that had a german shepherd in it then it was a bad idea to try retrieve said ball

presumably kids these days are f**kin thick

MeatTwoVeg

LexieOnRale wrote:

You have a duty of care to anyone who enters your property. If my dog bites a child on my property, I can and probably will, be sued.

That's fair enough tbh.
People shouldn't have dangerous animals in their back gardens.
Most 6 year old kids aren't that well up on the laws of trespass.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

MeatTwoVeg wrote: »

That's fair enough tbh.
People shouldn't have dangerous animals in their back gardens.
Most 6 year old kids aren't that well up on the laws of trespass.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse