UFC 205: Alvarez v McGregor (Event Discussion) - FAQ's in OP

joshrogan

Height: 5' 9" ( 175 cm )
Weight: 170 lb ( 77 kg )
Reach 74"
Leg Reach 42"

Are Woodleys stats, maybe McGregor fancies himself against him? By comparison here are Conors:

Height: 5' 9" ( 175 cm )
Weight: 145 lb ( 65 kg )
Reach 74"
Leg Reach 40"

EagererBeaver

McGregor via Decision

If McGregor wins, what's left for him in terms of signature achievements that are in any way realistic. I mean events that might be on the same hype and significance scale as 205. I'm thinking:

1) Diaz trilogy title fight (I don't see the same level of excitement sir a "standard" title defence)

2) WW title shot

3) GSP superfight

Anything else?

EagererBeaver

McGregor via Decision

joshrogan wrote: »

Height: 5' 9" ( 175 cm )
Weight: 170 lb ( 77 kg )
Reach 74"
Leg Reach 42"

Are Woodleys stats, maybe McGregor fancies himself against him? By comparison here are Conors:

Height: 5' 9" ( 175 cm )
Weight: 145 lb ( 65 kg )
Reach 74"
Leg Reach 40"

McGregor weighs 145? Really?

Woodley weighs 170? Really?

Out of competition, Woodley has 25-30 odd pounds on him I'd say.

mdwexford

McGregor via Decision

How many times has that fat fcuk Gastelum missed weight now.

Fire his unprofessional burger eating ass.

How in gods name can you be in camp and miss weight by that much. Does he have no nutrition guy and anyone keeping any eye on his weight and what he's eating?

Knex*

Is it just me, or does it look like absolutely nothing to anyone else?

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

Stuffing his face in new york probably with Pizza and Hotdogs missing by 1lb in bad enough but 10lb wtf is he playing at has he no coach around him? must be surrounded by yes men.

D.Q

Gamebred wrote: »

Stuffing his face in new york probably with Pizza and Hotdogs missing by 1lb in bad enough but 10lb wtf is he playing at has he no coach around him? must be surrounded by yes men.

Surrounded by fucking delivery men

Swashbuckler

McGregor via Decision

Gamebred wrote: »

Woodleys body language doesnt appear to tell the storying hes telling on twitter.

Spot on. Not atall like he said on Twitter.

TheTownie

Cerrone talking to some media. Worth watching just to see his reaction to being asked about fighting on the Belfast card at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41shHBlgnR8

CurryFlavoured

Weird face off there, Conor obviously didn't like Woodley telling him to stay away from 170 at the presser. Conor has no place at 170 though.

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/797115758933344256



Stoked for McGregor Woodley.

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/797115758933344256



Stoked for McGregor Woodley.

martyos121

McGregor via Decision

Not even finished with this fight and he's already building up the next one. Always a step ahead.

He needs to stay away from 170 though in all seriousness. Still, I'd love to see him move up just for Aldo's reaction to it. :pac:

wonderfullife

McGregor via Decision

Called it in a piece i wrote. 2 belts at 2 weight classes won't be enough for him. He wants a legacy. If he beats Eddie he'll be going after 170 strap. Whether he can possibly beat Wonderboy or Woodley is a complete different kettle of fish. I'd fancy his chances more against Woodley obviously but he'd be a big underdog in either fight.

EagererBeaver

McGregor via Decision

Very insightful of you.

CurryFlavoured

Conor hasn't a hope against any top 10 welterweight. It's silly.

xtal191

McGregor via Decision

Gamebred wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/797115758933344256



Stoked for McGregor Woodley.

https://twitter.com/TWooodley/status/797118655259672576

wonderfullife

McGregor via Decision

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Very insightful of you.

Why do you even bother posting in this forum? Not one of your posts contribute a thing. All you do is snipe about Conor or his fans or posters who like Conor.

I've never once seen you contribute an iota of original discussion, content or opinion.

Whatever helps you sleep at night....

MartyMcFly84

That is three times he has missed weight for 170. (Kevin Gastelum)

After the first two times he was made move up to 185. Then he was allowed back to 170 and has missed it for a third time.

The guy must have very little control around food. Even at 170 when he makes it he looks softish.

I have a feeling he will get cut for this. I feel bad for him as he is a fighter with lots of potential.

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

https://twitter.com/GamebredFighter/status/797121760919519232


My namesake and hero to the rescue.

callaway92

McGregor via Decision

McGregor should stop at LW. Woodley would murder him

EagererBeaver

McGregor via Decision

wonderfullife wrote: »

Why do you even bother posting in this forum? Not one of your posts contribute a thing. All you do is snipe about Conor or his fans or posters who like Conor.

I've never once seen you contribute an iota of original discussion, content or opinion.

Whatever helps you sleep at night....

That's factually untrue.

Your journalism career is over before it started. I'll happily call you out on it. You know your stuff but the real reason you're here is self promotion, nothing more.

mdwexford

McGregor via Decision

If Alvarez is a bigger version of Mendes I don't know what Woodley is.

His explosive takedowns would have McGregor taken down at will. He would man handle Conor, hits harder, literally would have close to no chance of beating him.

Worst match up possible at 170 imo.

Even Conor isn't mad enough to think he can take Woodley.

wonderfullife

McGregor via Decision

EagererBeaver wrote: »

That's factually untrue.

Your journalism career is over before it started. I'll happily call you out on it. You know your stuff but the real reason you're here is self promotion, nothing more.

I posted over 1,000 posts in the MMA forum before i started a blog.

I started a blog because Boardsies said they liked my writing and ASKED me to do one.

Self-promotion? I've NEVER once linked anybody to my twitter or facebook or instagram. I've never once given anybody my real name. My blog has 5 posts on it, no adverts and i put in countless hours of my time.

On the other hand all you do is come in here and derail threads slagging off McGregor and his fans.

wp_rathead

McGregor via KO/TKO

TheTownie wrote: »

Cerrone talking to some media. Worth watching just to see his reaction to being asked about fighting on the Belfast card at the end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41shHBlgnR8

Joe Duffy V Cowboy in Belfast confirmed

DrPhilG

McGregor via Decision

wonderfullife wrote: »

How about go fcuk yourself?

Lol, that's the stuff!

Lads there's a spot after opening up on 205 if you can make weight?

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

Thought Eddie looked terrific weighing in, arms look a tad big wouldnt want the lactic acid filling them.

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

Lukker-

McGregor via Submission

Gamebred wrote: »

Thought Eddie looked terrific weighing in, arms look a tad big wouldnt want the lactic acid filling them.

Yup, he has a tough cut but he's well suited to it. He has very little body fat and carries lots of water weight. I'd say he can hydrate in no time. He looked a little draw out at the face, but so did Conor tbh.

wonderfullife

McGregor via Decision

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/797115758933344256

https://twitter.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/797120667422494720

darced

McGregor via KO/TKO

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Swashbuckler

McGregor via Decision

darced wrote:

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That would not end well for Conor. Gotta laugh at the way Woodley sold it on twitter and then to see what really happened. Conor giving Woodley fierce abuse on twitter now. Haha

ktulu123

McGregor via Decision

I think Eirsport have taken away the €16.99 205 deal for 2 months. No option on the site to get that anymore. Fantastic way of doing business chaps Looks like I will have to use other means to get the card now....

jmx009

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

That is three times he has missed weight for 170. (Kevin Gastelum)

After the first two times he was made move up to 185. Then he was allowed back to 170 and has missed it for a third time.

The guy must have very little control around food. Even at 170 when he makes it he looks softish.

I have a feeling he will get cut for this. I feel bad for him as he is a fighter with lots of potential.

I dont think its a food problem. Its more of a body type issue. Its a lot easier for some to cut weight while it is extremely hard for others. I think he will most likely move back up in weight class. Dont think he will be cut from the rooster because of this, he is considered to be one of the top prospects in the UFC right now. I am sure he will come back , the question is , will he be a good fighter in the middleweight division... probably not but time will tell

midnight city

Gamebred wrote: »

Thought Eddie looked terrific weighing in, arms look a tad big wouldnt want the lactic acid filling them.

That's freaky look at his right knee. His face is in it.

darced

McGregor via KO/TKO

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froog

McGregor via Decision

lol why did souza weigh in?

ASOT

McGregor via Decision

froog wrote: »

lol why did souza weigh in?

In order to get his show money for his fight accorfing to sholler

Lukker-

McGregor via Submission

darced wrote: »

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I think USADA plays a big role too. I have no doubt that people were using things like diuretics to cut weight before, things like clen to cut body fat. And they don't have the comfort of an IV after, knowing they can hydrate while they rest/sleep, might put people off doing more extreme cuts.

If you get big between camps it doesn't help either. Body fat can be extremely tricky for some people to cut, even with extreme caloric deficits peoples bodies go into survival mode and preserve body fat as a survival measure. The immune system plays a big role too, and I don't think the antiquated calories in/calories out tells even close to the whole picture anymore.

He should be focusing on 185 at this stage though, I feel for him a bit because the weight classes in the UFC don't accommodate everybody. There are plenty of others who's ideal bodyweight tends to be between 170-185 or between 185 and 205. Kelvin looks too small for MW but he's gonna have to fight there.

froog

McGregor via Decision

ASOT wrote: »

In order to get his show money for his fight accorfing to sholler

i don't get it though, isn't that a different card?

rabbitinlights

McGregor via Decision

Paully D wrote: »

Sky customers can subscribe here at a special UFC 205 offer price of €16.99 per month (no annual contract, but minimum 2 months required)

Coming up at €25?? Any ideas?

Lukker-

McGregor via Submission

froog wrote: »

lol why did souza weigh in?

UFC paid him to be stand-in for Weidman/Romero after his fight with Rockhold fell through.

ktulu123

McGregor via Decision

rabbitinlights wrote: »

Coming up at €25?? Any ideas?

I asked them on twitter. Said the €16.99 "Early Bird" deal was over last night. I never saw a mention of an early bird deal in any of the information for that. **** thing for them to do right before the fights. I am not paying €50

wonderfullife

McGregor via Decision

Gastelum missing weight is BAD but it's not the worst thing he's done today.

His real crime is not having the decency to give Cowboy a knock on his door to explain the situation. They're staying in the same bloody hotel.

Knock on the mans door and say "listen bro, i'm struggling with this weight cut, how about i weigh in first and then you can rehydrate up a few lbs and we get it on?".

At least give Cowboy the courtesy of an option!

Cowboy is the type of guy who would have accepted the fight at 175 or 180lbs no problem. All they had to be was within 7lbs of each other.

Criminal. He should be cut for this. How many Cerrone fans have come all the way to NY or bought this PPV only to be screwed by cowardice?

That's all this was. Unprofessional? Yes 100%. But that could have been worked around if he had the decency and the balls to knock on Cowboys door at 7am and explain the situation.

Lukker-

McGregor via Submission

wonderfullife wrote: »

Gastelum missing weight is BAD but it's not the worst thing he's done today.

His real crime is not having the decency to give Cowboy a knock on his door to explain the situation. They're staying in the same bloody hotel.

Knock on the mans door and say "listen bro, i'm struggling with this weight cut, how about i weigh in first and then you can rehydrate up a few lbs and we get it on?".

At least give Cowboy the courtesy of an option!

Cowboy is the type of guy who would have accepted the fight at 175 or 180lbs no problem. All they had to be was within 7lbs of each other.

Criminal. He should be cut for this. How many Cerrone fans have come all the way to NY or bought this PPV only to be screwed by cowardice?

That's all this was. Unprofessional? Yes 100%. But that could have been worked around if he had the decency and the balls to knock on Cowboys door at 7am and explain the situation.

Dana said he's never letting him fight at 170 again. Which is odd considering he is the one suggested it to him in the first place!

Dana is kinda guilty imo for fighters missing weight. When they come into the organisation, if there is a fighter he wants to push he often tries to get them to compete at a lower weight class so they have more of an advantage. He wanted Alvarez to fight at 145, Alvarez was like 10-0 at 170 and said to make 145 he'd have to cut off a leg.

Sage too at LW, although I think he's moved up to 170 for good hopefully.

You even see it on Looking for a Fight, when he's talking to the regional fighters after they win his first question is usually "Can you make the weight class below you?". I know its often in the fighters best interest but I think it hurts the promotion long term when fighters can't make weight

Gamebred

Alvarez via Submission

https://twitter.com/MikeBohnMMA/status/797142385847336961


Interesting.

CurryFlavoured

That's weird, it should suit them better.

Lukker-

McGregor via Submission

CurryFlavoured wrote: »

That's weird, it should suit them better.

It gives them more recovery time but means fighters have to start their cuts earlier the day before, perhaps fighters aren't used to it yet.

DrPhilG

McGregor via Decision

wonderfullife wrote: »

Gastelum missing weight is BAD but it's not the worst thing he's done today.

His real crime is not having the decency to give Cowboy a knock on his door to explain the situation. They're staying in the same bloody hotel.

Knock on the mans door and say "listen bro, i'm struggling with this weight cut, how about i weigh in first and then you can rehydrate up a few lbs and we get it on?".

At least give Cowboy the courtesy of an option!

Cowboy is the type of guy who would have accepted the fight at 175 or 180lbs no problem. All they had to be was within 7lbs of each other.

Criminal. He should be cut for this. How many Cerrone fans have come all the way to NY or bought this PPV only to be screwed by cowardice?

That's all this was. Unprofessional? Yes 100%. But that could have been worked around if he had the decency and the balls to knock on Cowboys door at 7am and explain the situation.

The cynic in me wonders if Gastellum was aware of the NYC rules, i.e. the 7lb difference issue.

If he thought that a catchweight would be an option with him weighing fat and Cowboy making weight then maybe he deliberately didn't tell Cowboy. That way (he thought) the fight would go ahead AND Cerrone would have had to endure the weight cut.

Axwell

McGregor via Decision

@EagererBeaver and Wonderfullife - Cut out your childish nonsense.

EagererBeaver enough of the smart comments and constant remarks. If you don't have anything constructive to say don't reply at all or go derailing the thread.

Wonderfullife you contribute to the thread but plenty of others do and have done long before you joined. But drop the whole I contribute more than you and i put in so much time thing - its getting tiresome. This isnt a competition and there are no prizes.

If you both cant get on then just go and block each other but quit derailing the threads with your little spats and snide remarks.