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Moving my set up to my home server, bit of a pain, hopefully worth it

Black_Knight

GaryCocs wrote: »

Moving my set up to my home server, bit of a pain, hopefully worth it

Totally worth it. I got myself an Intel Nuc, and migrated to that from a Raspberry Pi 2. World of difference. Start up takes seconds rather than minutes. I've InfluxDB running on it too, with some nice Grafana visuals on my heating usage etc.



Around the 17th I started insulating our attic space. Outside temperatures went up too but it looks like with us at the house over these last few days in the sub-zero temps it's been taking less time to heat the house. Though i'm bias, I want the insulation work to have been worth it

EDIT: Also only stated tracking weather around the 13th Feb. Captain hindsight here

mcgovern

GaryCocs wrote: »

Anyone have a "turn on light if detect presence" sample script, would like to have the turn off part in it as well with a timeout etc.

Could come up with it but I want to go out and play in the snow

Not as good as matrim's but here is what I've working for the moment

[PHP]- alias: Turn on bathroom light when there is movement
trigger:
platform: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.motion_sensor_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
from: 'off'
to: 'on'
action:
service: light.turn_on
entity_id: light.yeelight_rgb_xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

- alias: Turn off bathroom light 5 minutes after last movement
trigger:
platform: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.motion_sensor_xxxxxxxxxxx
to: 'off'
for:
minutes: 5
action:
service: light.turn_off
entity_id: light.yeelight_rgb_xxxxxxxxxxxx[/PHP]

randombar

Black_Knight wrote: »

Not sure if this is the best way to go, but I had to write 2 automations. 1 to active when I get home, if its passed sunset. The other to active if sunset occurs and im at home.

- alias: Turn on lights when home if after sunset
    trigger:
      platform: state
      entity_id: group.all_devices
      to: 'home'
    condition:
      condition: state
      entity_id: sun.sun
      state: 'below_horizon'
    action:
      service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.downstairs_hall_lamp

  - alias: Turn on lights when sunset if someones home
    trigger:
      platform: state
      entity_id: sun.sun
      from: 'above_horizon'
      to: 'below_horizon'
    condition:
      - condition: state
        entity_id: group.all_devices
        state: 'home'
    action:
      service: light.turn_on
      entity_id: light.downstairs_hall_lamp

  - alias: Turn off lights when everyone leaves
    trigger:
      platform: state
      entity_id: group.all_devices
      to: 'not_home'
    action:
      - service: light.turn_off
        entity_id: group.all_lights
      - service: switch.turn_off
        entity_id: switch.attic_light

It looks like it's all done through multiple automations all right rather than 1 with conditionals.

randombar

Black_Knight wrote: »

Totally worth it. I got myself an Intel Nuc, and migrated to that from a Raspberry Pi 2. World of difference. Start up takes seconds rather than minutes. I've InfluxDB running on it too, with some nice Grafana visuals on my heating usage etc.



Around the 17th I started insulating our attic space. Outside temperatures went up too but it looks like with us at the house over these last few days in the sub-zero temps it's been taking less time to heat the house. Though i'm bias, I want the insulation work to have been worth it

EDIT: Also only stated tracking weather around the 13th Feb. Captain hindsight here

Having issues with it auto start up myself, sorted permissions but I think it starts up now before the network is set or something because if I auto startup the hue and chrome casts dont come in. Much faster all right, have it on my microserver/plex box.

Googling influxDB as we speak.

randombar

Working fine for moisture detection (switching on extractor fan) but the motion detection sensor is a bit slow. Go into the room and it takes maybe 30 secs for light to come on. I have set the "binary sensor report" and the group 1 interval to 15 (via the HA configurator). After that I'm not really sure what to do?

Black_Knight

GaryCocs wrote: »

Googling influxDB as we speak.

InfluxDB didn't take much effort if I remember correctly. Just install it, run it and setup the component for HA.
After that I just installed Grafana and changed it's datasource to be influxDB. Some trial and error and I got the graphs I wanted on it.
I tried using chronograf for influxDB but really didn't like it.

cherryghost

I am doing something similar for a while, and including DB reliability etc. I have a brief installation tutorial on the thread

Black_Knight

cherryghost wrote: »

I am doing something similar for a while, and including DB reliability etc. I have a brief installation tutorial on the thread

DB = Dublin Bus... not Database :pac:

randombar

Black_Knight wrote: »

InfluxDB didn't take much effort if I remember correctly. Just install it, run it and setup the component for HA.
After that I just installed Grafana and changed it's datasource to be influxDB. Some trial and error and I got the graphs I wanted on it.
I tried using chronograf for influxDB but really didn't like it.

any issues on restart of nuc?

Black_Knight

GaryCocs wrote: »

any issues on restart of nuc?

Only thing I can think of is the hass service. I think I don't start it with the right permissions or something. Every time the nuc restarts (which is rare) I have to scratch my head as to why it's not starting up correctly, and every time I say to myself i'll fix that now.... and I don't.

randombar

Black_Knight wrote: »

Only thing I can think of is the hass service. I think I don't start it with the right permissions or something. Every time the nuc restarts (which is rare) I have to scratch my head as to why it's not starting up correctly, and every time I say to myself i'll fix that now.... and I don't.

Ya I sorted the permissions by adding the user to the USB group (Something like that anyway).

Sensor still a bit slow unfortunately.

randombar

Just a word of warning for people, upgraded home assistant the other day on ubuntu 16.04 and it fell over. Failed to start up because of python dependancies. Shur I needed to upgrade to 17.10 anyways

paulbok

New raspberry pi 3+ released yesterday for anyone thinking of getting one. Bump up in processing power and wifi and support for Poe are the main upgrades. Don't know when available this side of the pond but still selling at $35 in the states

THE ALM

paulbok wrote: »

New raspberry pi 3+ released yesterday for anyone thinking of getting one. Bump up in processing power and wifi and support for Poe are the main upgrades. Don't know when available this side of the pond but still selling at $35 in the states

Available from the main UK suppliers as well £32

randombar

Anyone have any experience with temp sensors? Thinking of putting a temp sensor on my hot tank to monitor temp.

It's controlled by an analog already but think this might be a bit better.

Organising the cards etc. myself now.

Only realised there were hidden gems like server status.

Any other ones for weather and the likes?

Actually using wunderground, seems decent enough.

Wondering how people are getting on with the iPhone app and location.

From what I can see I am still away (wrong) and the wife never leaves the house (definitely wrong)

rkdub

GaryCocs wrote: »

Anyone have any experience with temp sensors? Thinking of putting a temp sensor on my hot tank to monitor temp.

It's controlled by an analog already but think this might be a bit better.

Organising the cards etc. myself now.

Only realised there were hidden gems like server status.

Any other ones for weather and the likes?

Not yet, but on the plans... I was thinking of setting up a mysensor gateway to do just that - 2+sensors and you might be able to guide how much hot water there is..(eg enough for one shower..)

Black_Knight

GaryCocs wrote: »

Any other ones for weather and the likes?

Using platform: yr
https://github.com/matthewbyrne/homeassistant/blob/master/packages/sensors.yaml

https://github.com/matthewbyrne/homeassistant/blob/master/packages/weather.yaml

I've some reporting on how long my heating as been on each day. Nice to get an idea of usage week on week.

randombar

Unfortunately my blink cameras are not playing brilliantly with home Assistant, for some reason the "unread" notifications count is staying at 0.

Looking to use IFTTT instead.

Pushing the following back to HA:

{
"state": "1",
"attributes": {
"friendly_name": "Front Door Motion Detected",
"icon": "mdi:security"
}
}

What I need to do now is try and automatically set back to zero if motion isn't detected for five minutes.

Any tips?

I see things about template sensors but not sure where to go really.

Chardee MacDennis

thinking im going to nuke my HA install tonight and dockerize the whole thing as per

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/895iw6/my_home_assistant_setup_rpi_3b_docker_compose/

Any reason I shouldnt go the docker route?

randombar

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

thinking im going to nuke my HA install tonight and dockerize the whole thing as per

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/895iw6/my_home_assistant_setup_rpi_3b_docker_compose/

Any reason I shouldnt go the docker route?

Are you planning on running other things on the pi besides home assistant? Just wondering is there any need if it's only running ha

Chardee MacDennis

GaryCocs wrote: »

Are you planning on running other things on the pi besides home assistant? Just wondering is there any need if it's only running ha

currently have HA, node red, pi-hole, pi-vpn, and organizr running on it.

Black_Knight

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

thinking im going to nuke my HA install tonight and dockerize the whole thing as per

https://www.reddit.com/r/homeassistant/comments/895iw6/my_home_assistant_setup_rpi_3b_docker_compose/

Any reason I shouldnt go the docker route?

Neat. I just went the simple docker route and exposed ports for influxdb and a volume for letsencrypt.

docker should make life easier to update things I guess. Major PITA for me was upgrading hass itself. Last time I needed to update python and somehow or another I nuked my mini pc (kernal panic). I started from scratch and got Hass (dockerised), influxdb, letsencrypt all setup in an evening.

Black_Knight

Chardee MacDennis wrote: »

currently have HA, node red, pi-hole, pi-vpn, and organizr running on it.

Sees Organizr github page
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Adds to list

paulbok

I'm f##king done with raspberry pi for HA.
On my 3rd on now, just got the model 3B+ and none of them can hold a power supply. Have 2 official pi chargers, and have tested them (and other phone chargers) and have confirmed 5.28v on both the pi chargers, yet the boards won't power up. The previous model B, did have a sporadic green power light but the new board is solid red. This is all without any card, ether etc cable or any accessories plugged in when powering up.
I know the power requirements are tight on the boards, especially the new model, but a 5.28v official charger should be able to run it.
Anyone else run into similar?

THE ALM

paulbok wrote: »

I'm f##king done with raspberry pi for HA.
On my 3rd on now, just got the model 3B+ and none of them can hold a power supply. Have 2 official pi chargers, and have tested them (and other phone chargers) and have confirmed 5.28v on both the pi chargers, yet the boards won't power up. The previous model B, did have a sporadic green power light but the new board is solid red. This is all without any card, ether etc cable or any accessories plugged in when powering up.
I know the power requirements are tight on the boards, especially the new model, but a 5.28v official charger should be able to run it.
Anyone else run into similar?

I have three all with no problems. An original model 1b with a hifiberry digi plugged into an old amp that runs away happily using an old phone charger, a rpi3 running openelec which i got as a kit with the official rpi charger and another rpi3 running hass both running away 24/7.

Black_Knight

I've a RPi3b+ which arrived with USB ports not working. Seems it's common enough. Shorted a chip on the board and they're working now.

Has their quality control dipped?

paulbok

Black_Knight wrote: »

I've a RPi3b+ which arrived with USB ports not working. Seems it's common enough. Shorted a chip on the board and they're working now.

Has their quality control dipped?

Based on the 3 I got from different suppliers on Amazon, yes.

The high horse brigade

I'm struggling to get Zoneminder component working. Has anyone here had success. It seems to be an ssl error relating to the self signed cert. Anyone know a way of forcing Home Assistant to accept the self signed cert?

The high horse brigade

I got zoneminder sorted by getting a letsencrypt signed cert

I have a pretty decent setup going now. I moved to completely open source over the last few weeks. I'm running everything in docker on a HP Proliant micro server. Zoneminder is on its own 1u Dell r210 quad core blade. Both servers are running Centos.

So far I have integrated the following in HA:

Zoneminder cameras
Ring doorbell
Hue lights and sensors
Netatmo thermostat
Weather underground
Device monitor using SNMP from my Mikrotik router
Google home, Chromecasts and Nvidia shield
Logitech Harmony hubs x2 (created inputs for activities)
Enigma satellite boxes x2 (shows what's currently being viewed)
Netdata stats from my 2 local servers
Pihole sensors
Node red (not done anything with it yet)
Plex sensors (I'm not pulling in entities which is bugging me, yet to figure). Remote Plex (Hetzner quad core running CentOS)
Tautulli sensors (formerly plexpy)
Nzbget, radarr and sonarr stats from my remote server


Now to design some fun automation......

THE ALM

For those running hass and using ubiquiti ap's etc. there is now an addon that installs the unifi controller software within hass. Currently have it setup on an rpi3 running hass.io.

Great to be able to run it on the rpi as previously I had to bring home a laptop to check any settings etc.

randombar

The high horse brigade wrote: »

I got zoneminder sorted by getting a letsencrypt signed cert

I have a pretty decent setup going now. I moved to completely open source over the last few weeks. I'm running everything in docker on a HP Proliant micro server. Zoneminder is on its own 1u Dell r210 quad core blade. Both servers are running Centos.

So far I have integrated the following in HA:

Zoneminder cameras
Ring doorbell
Hue lights and sensors
Netatmo thermostat
Weather underground
Device monitor using SNMP from my Mikrotik router
Google home, Chromecasts and Nvidia shield
Logitech Harmony hubs x2 (created inputs for activities)
Enigma satellite boxes x2 (shows what's currently being viewed)
Netdata stats from my 2 local servers
Pihole sensors
Node red (not done anything with it yet)
Plex sensors (I'm not pulling in entities which is bugging me, yet to figure). Remote Plex (Hetzner quad core running CentOS)
Tautulli sensors (formerly plexpy)
Nzbget, radarr and sonarr stats from my remote server


Now to design some fun automation......

How did you get on with docker? Are you running hass.io through it?

Finding that there are libraries etc. for hass.io that need a bit more setting up on standard ubuntu.

The high horse brigade

GaryCocs wrote: »

How did you get on with docker? Are you running hass.io through it?

Finding that there are libraries etc. for hass.io that need a bit more setting up on standard ubuntu.

Yes, I'm running the full Home Assistant and doing everything through configs. My docker host runs CentOS so everything I'm doing is over FTP and SSH.

https://hub.docker.com/r/homeassistant/home-assistant/

cherryghost

Anyone muddling around with Lovelace? It's great, finally an approach that seperates the device configuration from the UI completely. Changes can be seamlessly done in UI, and custom card integration is very straightforward.

Metric Tensor

Hi guys - how are you all handling the database file size?

I'm running Hassbian on a Raspberry Pi and the database file gradually grows larger and larger and if I don't remember to manually delete it every now and then it'll eventually clog up the Pi and prevent the whole thing from starting up. I've tried the "recorder.purge" service on the main page but it never seems to work!

My ideal situation would be to export a limited amount of data for long term storage to some cloud location and delete the rest after approximately a week. I would settle for auto-deleting anything over a week though.

Wossack

do you have a

recorder:

entry in your configuration file?

/edit, I mention this, as I had gone through and trimmed back all the bits I thought I wouldnt need. Turns out, the recorder: entity has defaults set for purging the db after x amount of days uptime etc. And by removing it from my config, the db only ever went one way... may have changed, going back a good while
This may not be the case for you if you have a recorder.purge option in your admin panel. If you do run that, you can try running it with the repack option ({'repack':'yes'} json payload iirc)

lardarse

Metric Tensor wrote: »

Hi guys - how are you all handling the database file size?

I'm running Hassbian on a Raspberry Pi and the database file gradually grows larger and larger and if I don't remember to manually delete it every now and then it'll eventually clog up the Pi and prevent the whole thing from starting up. I've tried the "recorder.purge" service on the main page but it never seems to work!

My ideal situation would be to export a limited amount of data for long term storage to some cloud location and delete the rest after approximately a week. I would settle for auto-deleting anything over a week though.

Just setup a cronjob to delete files over a certain date

You will need t check the correct syntax here, i deal with unix rather then linux.

But do something like

crontab -e
then add for the time you want to run it.
and add someting like the below
find '/HA/logs/log*' -mtime +30 -type f -delete

That would delete all files in the /HA/logs/ older then 31 days.


and for cron times http://www.adminschoice.com/crontab-quick-reference

Hope that help

Metric Tensor

Thanks guys. I will have a go at both of these to see can I sort something out.

Metric Tensor

Just to update this.

I had commented out the "recorder:" function in the config file.

Since I have reinstated it the database has stayed at a constant size.

Thanks guys.

matrim

If you want to keep more data you can export to an influxdb instance running somewhere else on your network. You could then use grafana to help visualise things

Metric Tensor

Thanks matrim.

That's on the medium term plan. Considering switching from the Pi to a NUC also - in which case the influxdb could probably reside on that.

Black_Knight

Metric Tensor wrote: »

Thanks matrim.

That's on the medium term plan. Considering switching from the Pi to a NUC also - in which case the influxdb could probably reside on that.

Scope out Adverts and Donedeal for them. That's where I got mine from. It was a few gens old but i've no intentions of playing minecraft or anything on it so 8GB of ram and a 80GB hdd was plenty for its purpose. InfluxDB here, home assistant there, some motion detection cameras over there. Oh, and plex too.

IMO, run what you can in docker, makes everything a lot simpler. Upgrading HA was always a PITA for me, and never went smoothly on my Pi (or pre using docker on the nuc). Now with docker its like 4 commands, and easy to roll back.

keane2097

For getting Home Assistant up and running at home is something like this what people would recommend?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BR61P39/

Black_Knight

keane2097 wrote: »

For getting Home Assistant up and running at home is something like this what people would recommend?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BR61P39/

On the face of it, to me it seems expensive. €70 for what should be a cheap cheap mini PC. I used a Pi2 for a while to run Home Assistant (it was an old one I had lying around), but ended up upgrading to a NUC because the Pi keep dieing/needing a hard reset.

Pi costs ~€30-€35, HDMI for €5, SD card €10, Power supply €5
That's really all you'd need to get going. Aliexpress for a cheap case if you want (€1-2).

I'd only hesitate because of my experience with HA on a Pi, but others might have better experiences with a Pi3.

Have you and old laptop you could try it out on? IMO, go the cheapest route you can, and if you like it/use it lots, upgrade to the best option you can.

keane2097

Black_Knight wrote: »

On the face of it, to me it seems expensive. €70 for what should be a cheap cheap mini PC. I used a Pi2 for a while to run Home Assistant (it was an old one I had lying around), but ended up upgrading to a NUC because the Pi keep dieing/needing a hard reset.

Pi costs ~€30-€35, HDMI for €5, SD card €10, Power supply €5
That's really all you'd need to get going. Aliexpress for a cheap case if you want (€1-2).

I'd only hesitate because of my experience with HA on a Pi, but others might have better experiences with a Pi3.

Have you and old laptop you could try it out on? IMO, go the cheapest route you can, and if you like it/use it lots, upgrade to the best option you can.

There is an old laptop lying around but it's an absolute pig. Maybe I can try that first regardless.

b.gud

What's the NUC like in terms of power consumption compared to the PI?

paulbok

After 2 year's of fluting around, I finally started getting HA up and running correctly, got my first automation to run last night.
Loads to setup yet and still have a couple of components to bring in.
Has anyone brought in a Philips hue motion sensor? Haven't found a guide to this I can easily follow.

Also have 2 issues with a z-wave stick.
First is pairing problem with an Aeotec dimmer module but I believe this can take many many attempts to pair.

The bigger issue is although the stick is always in the same USB slot, it is read by Linux differently if it's powered off or even if HA is rebooted. I've set up a rule to map the USB stick serial number each time but to no avail.
Did anyone else have this problem?

Black_Knight

paulbok wrote: »

After 2 year's of fluting around, I finally started getting HA up and running correctly, got my first automation to run last night.
Loads to setup yet and still have a couple of components to bring in.
Has anyone brought in a Philips hue motion sensor? Haven't found a guide to this I can easily follow.

Also have 2 issues with a z-wave stick.
First is pairing problem with an Aeotec dimmer module but I believe this can take many many attempts to pair.

The bigger issue is although the stick is always in the same USB slot, it is read by Linux differently if it's powered off or even if HA is rebooted. I've set up a rule to map the USB stick serial number each time but to no avail.
Did anyone else have this problem?

Yup. Got my motion sensors in HA.
Here's my HA config:
https://github.com/matthewbyrne/homeassistant/blob/master/packages/sensors.yaml#L56

But here's the guide that should help you find those URLs:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/tutorial-adding-hue-motion-sensor-lux-temp-and-motion/5532

Wossack

you set up the zwave - usb binding using udev rules?

paulbok

Black_Knight wrote: »

Yup. Got my motion sensors in HA.
Here's my HA config:
https://github.com/matthewbyrne/homeassistant/blob/master/packages/sensors.yaml#L56

But here's the guide that should help you find those URLs:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/tutorial-adding-hue-motion-sensor-lux-temp-and-motion/5532

Cheers for that.
I've run the Get command for /api/key/sensors but I'm getting a long unique ID for lux & temp sensors, eg, [PHP]"uniqueid": "**:**:**:**:**:01:81:90-02-0406",[/PHP], the motion sensor has a text string for the id.
Is there another step to getting a short id like you have eg 22?