El Presidente Trump

Leroy42

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Sorry, how does this affect halting immigration and job creation?

Its not an either or. It is possible to be both.

So society is just an economy to you? Once we are better off the means doesn't matter?

I seem to recall certain German's having the same thinking a few years ago. I can't quite remember what came of that, probably nothing I suspect

Zubeneschamali

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Which jobs is he creating anyway. Good jobs, the best jobs?

Yuge jobs, believe me, bigly.

Leroy42

RobertKK wrote: »

I think Trump was wrong to mock the disabled reporter, I think Streep was wrong to use it given the events of the past week which were far worse, and the people torturing the mentally disabled teenager seemed to support Clinton whom she had backed.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and there is no evidence that what Trump did made the people torture the teenager.
If anything it looks like they did it due to their hate of Trump and took it out on an easy white target.

So you accept that he mocked the reporter. And then you must accept that he lied about it, and even today is still lying about it.

You think Streep shouldn't speak her opinion because some scumbags acted like animals? There is no evidence that what Trump did made the people torture the teenager, yet somehow you seem to think Hillary has something to do with it? Good grief

Christy42

RobertKK wrote: »

I think Trump was wrong to mock the disabled reporter, I think Streep was wrong to use it given the events of the past week which were far worse, and the people torturing the mentally disabled teenager seemed to support Clinton whom she had backed.
Two wrongs don't make a right, and there is no evidence that what Trump did made the people torture the teenager.
If anything it looks like they did it due to their hate of Trump and took it out on an easy white target.

Remember people. Trump can mock disabled people all he likes because some thugs were worse to disabled people.

Your logic makes no sense. Really no sense. Two wrongs don't make a right but you don't get to ignore a wrong because there was a worse one. I hope the attackers end up in jail for a long time. They are not related though and would not be unless you have evidence that Streep would like to see them not punished. Otherwise you are just trying to drag the conversation from yet another Trump flaw.

She can still give out that Trump mocked someone's disability. Those attackers are not the president elect. They are not politicians. They are thugs who should be punished. Or when can we bring up that particular flaw of Trump's again (in fairness we could ditch it for a bit he has many flaws for us to focus on).

You forgot blatantly lying about insulting someone's disability from your list of things Trump should not have done.

Richard Hillman

Leroy42 wrote: »

Its not an either or. It is possible to be both.

So society is just an economy to you? Once we are better off the means doesn't matter?

It is 100% totally irrelevant to issues of what he was elected on.

He got elected to build a wall, stop ISIS and create jobs. That's it. That's what he should be judged on. And all 3 are societal issues too.

Being a nice guy or not is irrelevant. Being Son-in-law material is not part of the job description.

Wanderer78

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It is 100% totally irrelevant to issues of what he was elected on.

He got elected to build a wall, stop ISIS and create jobs. That's it. That's what he should be judged on. And all 3 are societal issues too.

Being a nice guy or not is irrelevant. Being Son-in-law material is not part of the job description.

oh ffs, do people really think complex social problems are not interconnected to economic and financial issues!

Jelle1880

I love that in his response to Streep he's basically proven her spot on.
Basically very vindictive, calling her an over-rated actress (3 Oscars by the way).

seamus

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It is 100% totally irrelevant to issues of what he was elected on.

He got elected to build a wall, stop ISIS and create jobs. That's it. That's what he should be judged on. And all 3 are societal issues too.

Being a nice guy or not is irrelevant. Being Son-in-law material is not part of the job description.

Stunning lack of basic awareness that you don't think the conduct of the leader of a country is a "societal issue".

If your country's leader is a horrible bastard like Putin or Duterte, then that's a signal to all horrible bastards that what they're doing is OK and to yougn people growing up that it's not only OK, but perhaps essential to be a horrible bastard to get where you want to get.

If you don't think Trump being a nasty reprehensible cvnt isn't relevant and isn't a societal issue, then you're completely away with the birds.

buried

Have to laugh at all the online terms like "generation snowflake" to describe some young people as whingy, spoilt and ultra sensitive when this orange clown is the twitter emporer of all 3 traits

Leroy42

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It is 100% totally irrelevant to issues of what he was elected on.

He got elected to build a wall, stop ISIS and create jobs. That's it. That's what he should be judged on. And all 3 are societal issues too.

Being a nice guy or not is irrelevant. Being Son-in-law material is not part of the job description.

Do you honestly think it is right for powerful people to use their position to publicly mock those that question them? And then when it is brought up to them use the media to lie about it. Do you think it right if you brought up some potential injustice that Kenny should be allowed to publicly ridicule you and your family? How about if you ever turn up a water protest or whatever, that they bring out stories on you to show you suck at football, or like porn? So instead of dealing with the issue you have raised they simply ignore it to make fun of you.

Because before you accept it for others you need to question would you be comfortable to be in their position.

ebbsy

US President-elect Donald Trump has hit back over Meryl Streep's criticism of him as she received a lifetime achievement award at the Golden Globes.

He tweeted: "Meryl Streep, one of the most overrated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes.

"She is a Hillary flunky who lost big," Mr Trump added of the three-time Oscar-winning actress.


WELL SAID DONALD.

Doctor Jimbob

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It is 100% totally irrelevant to issues of what he was elected on.

He got elected to build a wall, stop ISIS and create jobs. That's it. That's what he should be judged on. And all 3 are societal issues too.

Being a nice guy or not is irrelevant. Being Son-in-law material is not part of the job description.

He's not building a fecking wall, he's going to make ISIS worse if anything, and I fail to see how he's going to create any jobs.

It's not about being nice, it's about presenting yourself with the dignity appropriate to the office, and setting an example. The leader of one of the world's most powerful nations behaving like a spoilt child on twitter is embarassing and as another poster pointed out, absolutely ****ing hilarious given his supporter's love of complaining about 'snowflakes'.

Doctor Jimbob

ebbsy wrote: »

US President-elect Donald Trump has hit back over Meryl Streep's criticism of him as she received a lifetime achievement award at the Golden Globes.

He tweeted: "Meryl Streep, one of the most overrated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes.

"She is a Hillary flunky who lost big," Mr Trump added of the three-time Oscar-winning actress.


WELL SAID DONALD.

Ah yes. He really told her.

Jelle1880

She's proven right with that tweet, but he's probably too thick to realize.

Professor Moriarty

There are other criteria for diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder but these are the essential features. Five of the following must be present:

1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.

WinnyThePoo

Here we have it folks. Now American citizens can't have an opinion about precedent elect.

Wanderer78

new thread name change, loving it:D

Shane St.

You could nearly predict his exact retort to Streep on Twitter word for word haha

seamus

The United States has officially elected a Snowflake to its highest public office.

Pretty ironic considering how his most vociferous supporters would probably consider themselves the anti-snowflake brigade.

Doctor Jimbob

Shane St. wrote: »

You could nearly predict his exact retort to Streep on Twitter word for word haha

Yeah, the only surprising this about the response was the fact it was somewhat coherent.

Christy42

ebbsy wrote: »

US President-elect Donald Trump has hit back over Meryl Streep's criticism of him as she received a lifetime achievement award at the Golden Globes.

He tweeted: "Meryl Streep, one of the most overrated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes.

"She is a Hillary flunky who lost big," Mr Trump added of the three-time Oscar-winning actress.


WELL SAID DONALD.

Without your posting history I would presume you a liberal insulting him. In fact I am still not convinced you are not just making fun of him.

kunst nugget

ebbsy wrote: »

US President-elect Donald Trump has hit back over Meryl Streep's criticism of him as she received a lifetime achievement award at the Golden Globes.

He tweeted: "Meryl Streep, one of the most overrated actresses in Hollywood, doesn't know me but attacked last night at the Golden Globes.

"She is a Hillary flunky who lost big," Mr Trump added of the three-time Oscar-winning actress.


WELL SAID DONALD.

It's good to see that even with his busy schedule, he can set aside time to be thin-skinned and petty. GO DONALD!

Trent Houseboat

He's probably hoping that his childish reaction will make everyone forget about Russia for a few minutes. Fortunately we're not all like RobertKK and can disapprove of more than one thing at a time.

preacher505

the head of the CIA stated publicly a few day's back that they would deliberately withold sensitive information from him due to the fact that he didn't know when to keep his mouth shut, he went on to say the 16 security agencies that exist in the US seldom came to the same conclusion over security and intelligence but with trump all 16 had agreed that he was not to be trusted, these are the same people he will need to rely on most while in office, this is his first shot at being president but the security services have been around for a long time and if they decide he has to go then he most definately will go, the one certain thing is that they'll be there long after he's gone, it'll be interesting to see how long it takes before someone tries to kill him, the security services may well be tempted to turn a blind eye to a potential assasination as it would suit them very well not to have a hand in his removal (plausable deniability) the guy is egotistical and psychopathic (he fit's almost all the traits) really interesting to see what happens next

seamus

I dunno, I think while Trump will likely be a big target for any lunatic with a gun, bigger agencies will probably find it far more conducive to have a useful idiot in the white house who can be easily led into taking the course of action they want. It's why Putin conspired to put him there in the first place.

ricero

Gotta love the donald laying the smackdown on meryl streep. Love seeing all these liberals still fuming over donalds victory

skankkuvhima

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

There are other criteria for diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder but these are the essential features. Five of the following must be present:

1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.

Is this Meryl Streep you are describing?

Professor Moriarty

skankkuvhima wrote: »

Is this Meryl Streep you are describing?

I'm not describing any particular person. I leave it to people to decide for themselves if they can think of anyone who might have five or more of those seven features of NPD.

Clarebelly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m7iA7QZBi4

WinnyThePoo

Clarebelly wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m7iA7QZBi4

How much does it hurt. How much does it hurt that people can have an opinion different than yours.

Are you a fascist by the way?

Jelle1880

'The smackdown on Meryl Streep' :pac: :pac: :pac:

His reaction was predicted by Dana Schwartz hours before he tweeted it.

https://twitter.com/DanaSchwartzzz/status/818295430203068417?lang=en

Hans Bricks

Jesus, Hollywood are really sore losers when it comes to politics aren't they ? Jimmy Fallon and Hugh Laurie had to wet their egos last night too. Meryl crying over trump at 67 years of age. They must have forgotten that they're in the same echelons of society that trump inhabits. All white caucasian too. Poor mites.

Anyway , when is inauguration day again ?

Clarebelly

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

How much does it hurt. How much does it hurt that people can have an opinion different than yours.

Are you a fascist by the way?

Yeah, you got me in one.
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.

PopePalpatine

seamus wrote: »

The United States has officially elected a Snowflake to its highest public office.

Pretty ironic considering how his most vociferous supporters would probably consider themselves the anti-snowflake brigade.

B-b-but I want to feel intense euphoria because Meryl Streep hit out at m'God-Emperor![/tangyCheeseFlavour****posting]

Trent Houseboat

ricero wrote:

Gotta love the donald laying the smackdown on meryl streep. Love seeing all these liberals still fuming over donalds victory

Is lying to his credulous fans considered laying the smackdown on Streep? If so how?

WinnyThePoo

Clarebelly wrote: »

Yeah, you got me in one.
ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz.

Good stuff. I was just pointing out the obvious.

ricero

Streep is part of the liberal pc brigade that has ruined society in the 21st century. I love the fume and disgust by the liberals who are trying to write the donald off before he has even set foot in the white house.

I for one reckon he will do a good job in job creation, tackling illegals and slaying isis. He will make america great again after 8 years of stagnation by the uncle tom barack obama and his cronies

PopePalpatine

ebbsy wrote: »

That stupid trollop Streep should stick to acting.

And she is even no good at that.

It must frustrate you so much that she doesn't have a Twitter account for you to direct your bile at. :pac:

WinnyThePoo

ricero wrote: »

Streep is part of the liberal pc brigade that has ruined society in the 21st century. I love the fume and disgust by the liberals who are trying to write the donald off before he has even set foot in the white house.

I for one reckon he will do a good job in job creation, tackling illegals and slaying isis. He will make america great again after 8 years of stagnation by the uncle tom barack obama and his cronies

Can you be America's leader?

You seem to have it all figured out.

PopePalpatine

ricero wrote: »

Streep is part of the liberal pc brigade that has ruined society in the 21st century. I love the fume and disgust by the liberals who are trying to write the donald off before he has even set foot in the white house.

I for one reckon he will do a good job in job creation, tackling illegals and slaying isis. He will make america great again after 8 years of stagnation by the uncle tom barack obama and his cronies

Oh look, your mask slipped off.

seamus

Clarebelly wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m7iA7QZBi4

More fake news. Streep was suffering from difficulty with her voice which she stated as soon as she got up on stage.

She sounded like she was on the verge of tears even when talking about other things.

These people are lying to you. Think for yourself, sheeple!

arriba

It seems to be becoming more apparent that, under Trump, one would have to be a yes-sir, of-course-sir, three-bags-full-sir, in order to survive. He is a bully. One example is Toyota. A Japanese business being dictated to and threatened by a bully. Rather than entice a foreign business to do business directly in the US by taking steps to put favourable conditions in place, he resorts to threats. And say the jobs do go to the US...any guesses who would be filling these jobs? Would it be someone who voiced an opinion against Trump, or someone who's nodding like Churchill in the advert, irrespective of what they may say behind closed doors? They know he didn't get to where he is by considering other people. Why they think he'll start considering them now, unless he gets something in return, is anyone's guess.

His infantile "..the U.S must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes.." is also indicative of a bully in the playground..my bombs are bigger than yours. I have a right to have them but you don't. It sounds like something Kim Yong Un would say. Like with Kim Yong Un, we know who doesn't get the jobs.

kunst nugget

ricero wrote: »

Streep is part of the liberal pc brigade that has ruined society in the 21st century. I love the fume and disgust by the liberals who are trying to write the donald off before he has even set foot in the white house.

I for one reckon he will do a good job in job creation, tackling illegals and slaying isis. He will make america great again after 8 years of stagnation by the uncle tom barack obama and his cronies

Explain to me in far-rightspeak how Obama was an Uncle Tom?

Christy42

ricero wrote: »

Streep is part of the liberal pc brigade that has ruined society in the 21st century. I love the fume and disgust by the liberals who are trying to write the donald off before he has even set foot in the white house.

I for one reckon he will do a good job in job creation, tackling illegals and slaying isis. He will make america great again after 8 years of stagnation by the uncle tom barack obama and his cronies

What about the fume and disgust of Trump over anyone that insults him.

Poor little snowflake. Have we insured all theatres are now safe spaces to hide out in when people are mean to the guy?

Anyway as this is a massive distraction from the real issue which is that Trump has casually dropped saying Russia was not involved in the hacks and is now merely avoiding the topic. He is talking about how it didn't affect the election (not strictly proven, they said they didn't have proof it did affect the election) and blaming the dnc for poor security and entirely dodging the question of the aggressors.

Figured we should go back to the real topic and not Trump's little pout.

Zubeneschamali

Hans Bricks wrote: »

Jesus, Hollywood are really sore losers when it comes to politics aren't they ?

You ain't seen nuthin yet - Trump is the greatest gift to comedians, satirists, left-wing loudmouths, Hollywood celebrities, you name it, since Ronnie Reagan.

There will be a well-deserved, non-stop barrage of abuse aimed at Trump for the rest of his life, and he is too dumb/vain to ignore it.

PopePalpatine

kunst nugget wrote: »

Explain to me in far-rightspeak how Obama was an Uncle Tom?

He got Negro juice all over the White House, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! [/tangyCheeseFlavour****posting]

brickmauser

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Once again the used tactic: Divert the point you earlier made into something completely unrelated.

Best knock it off, it doesn't work anymore.

He lied about muslims in New Jersey celebrating and was rightly called out on that crap. Kovalevski never wrote that he saw Muslims celebrating. Let's recap, shall we ? Since you seem to take your 'facts' from websites like catcholics4trump.com (the second Google hit if I look for 'trump mocks journalist arabs').

This is what he actually wrote:



Kovalevski pointed out there were never any reports of that happening, only urban myths that Trump seemingly bought into for his own form of propaganda.

And if he was 'mocking a journalist' (once again, that's the sign of a sociopath, not a proper leader) why did he choose to do so by seemingly focusing on the man's disability ? He could have just used words but decided to mimic the man (and don't give me that crap about how he was acting like a journalist backing out of a debate, that's pathetic).

He said he never met the man or knew who he was, despite it becoming clear that Kovalevski interviewed him on several occassions.

The guy's a liar no matter how you try to spin it.

Crap.
Kovalevski covered the story HIMSELF back in 2001 and then lied that he had reported it.
Google it.
Trump was proven right.
He mocked Kovalevski for not remembering.
He did NOT mock his disability.
End of.

seamus

brickmauser wrote: »

He did NOT mock his disability.
End of.

No, of course he didn't.

Not at all

Now you're just lying. Straight out.

Ronaldinho

Putting myself into the shoes of one of the 40mio+ people relying on food stamps in the US I think I could live with this sort of vitriol, provided he lives up to his promise of bringing back more jobs into the country, and it looks like he is having a modicum of success on that front.

For the record I think he's a 'chancer', a narcissist, I could go on.. but for now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Would be great to have a fella as nice as Obama in power that could also get stuff done.

Clarebelly

seamus wrote: »

No, of course he didn't.

Not at all

Now you're just lying. Straight out.

I suppose Ted Cruz is disabled as well........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4604reEqk0