Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

adox

adox wrote: »

You are right. Drink driving is a lot worse than just drinking.

It's in no way a reach to see it as hypocrisy from the paper.

Obviously. Doubt anyone disagrees within that.

It's the mirror, an absolute rag.

Trigger

the whole year inn wrote: »

I'm not saying its OK what he done, but he said it was a mistake on his part that he didn't know he was drinking alcohol , he thought he was drinking coke . His religious beliefs don't allow him to drink and he stuck to that when he wouldnt drink or use the champagne after he won a cup. I d belive him tho many don't. Saying that he should be punished banned for driving.

What was in the coke? surely he would taste the alcohol? I've never had a drink mixed with coke and thought it just tasted of coke. Usually the Alcohol is the dominant taste

the whole year inn

astradave wrote: »

What was in the coke? surely he would taste the alcohol? I've never had a drink mixed with coke and thought it just tasted of coke. Usually the Alcohol is the dominant taste

I was reading about it when it happened but don't have the exact link, but what it said was there say a jug of coke that had alcohol mixed threw it, he didn't know and thought it was just coke, it said that he thought it didn't tasted a bit off but he didn't question it.
I know it's a bit silly but its something that could happen easily enough.

niallo27

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

It's not an anti United agenda at all. It does, however, highlight that Rooney gets incredibly harsh treatment in the press at times. It's no surprise, the English always cannibalise their own.

I say this as a major critic of Rooney and his inability to keep it together off-field for certain phases in his career.

As an aside, what is the deal with rival team fans picking through this thread these days for things to be offended by?

Your mixing up offended and disagreeing with. What's wrong with rival fans coming in. Most of these super threads are too clany anyway.

Flint Fredstone

the whole year inn wrote: »

I was reading about it when it happened but don't have the exact link, but what it said was there say a jug of coke that had alcohol mixed threw it, he didn't know and thought it was just coke, it said that he thought it didn't tasted a bit off but he didn't question it.
I know it's a bit silly but its something that could happen easily enough.

If there was enough of a spirit in it to put him over the limit he surely would have tasted it. Even more so if he doesn't drink.

Trigger

the whole year inn wrote: »

I was reading about it when it happened but don't have the exact link, but what it said was there say a jug of coke that had alcohol mixed threw it, he didn't know and thought it was just coke, it said that he thought it didn't tasted a bit off but he didn't question it.
I know it's a bit silly but its something that could happen easily enough.

Fair enough if you want to believe that, but imo thats a little naive.

PhlegmyMoses

niallo27 wrote: »

Your mixing up offended and disagreeing with. What's wrong with rival fans coming in. Most of these super threads are too clany anyway.

Because of course, you yourself are just here for honest discourse of the intellectual variety with like minded individuals....

People absolutely should come in and discuss stuff, it's just painful when they pick out one post and make a bigger point of it than is necessary.

You won't find them when it's a discussion on the finer points of how to get the best out of Martial, but the minute anything slightly related to their own teams crop up, they'll be in to argue the toss for multiple posts.

bangkok

the whole year inn wrote: »

I'm not saying its OK what he done, but he said it was a mistake on his part that he didn't know he was drinking alcohol , he thought he was drinking coke . His religious beliefs don't allow him to drink and he stuck to that when he wouldnt drink or use the champagne after he won a cup. I d belive him tho many don't. Saying that he should be punished banned for driving.

LOL

thats up there with Joleen Lescotts excuse when he said the tweet about his fancy car sent from his pocket!!!

Im not saying I think its true or not but if you have never drank Alcohol would you know what it tasted like?

PhlegmyMoses

bangkok wrote: »

LOL

thats up there with Joleen Lescotts excuse when he said the tweet about his fancy car sent from his pocket!!!

I'd almost buy it except for the fact that adding anything to coke changes the flavour massively, especially an amount that will put you over the limit.

bangkok

jayo26 wrote: »

Why did u just state the obvious of course plenty can play there but they aint as good if they were as good I'd of said we have loads of cover for Carrick too.

Crikey bangkok sometimes you take the biscuit even by your standard.

Anyway another thing is that even if they were pretty good I think I said it before that it's not that Carrick is soo good its that he is so simple he don't try risky stuff or he don't drift out of position he is a dependable and rigid defensive midfielder that can pick out a forward pass without loosing the ball.

When Fellaini played a similar role early in the season he did well but he drove forward too much that left pogba and the defense exposed.

and yet some people cant see this. Carrick will be a huge loss to the team when he calls it a day

Brendan Flowers

bangkok wrote: »

plenty of players can play there, Sweignsteiger, Schneiderlain, Fellaini, Herrera, Pogba, Fosu Mensah, Blind, but just none of them are as good as carrick in that position when they play there

Whatever about the others, how can you list Pogba and Herrera as possible cover for Carrick when both already have their own positions in the midfield starting 11?

bangkok

Brendan Flowers wrote: »

Whatever about the others, how can you list Pogba and Herrera as possible cover for Carrick when both already have their own positions in the midfield starting 11?

yes they only have it in the last few weeks when jose started all 3 together in a midfield 3. they have been excellent together

0gac3yjefb5sv7

adox wrote: »

From your perspective, not a Utd perspective. You still haven't given any reason why you think Liverpool won't get top four.

Eh yes I did. Go have a read there love.

bangkok

see tevez gone to china, £615,000 per week. An absolute disgrace

adox

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Eh yes I did. Go have a read there love.

No you didn't. You gave a "that's just my opinion" and "just because they are up there now doesn't mean they will be at the end...& type responses, which isn't giving any opinion at all of your own as to why you think they won't.

Unless I've missed another post of yours?


Oh and what's with the love comment?

Trigger

bangkok wrote: »

see tevez gone to china, £615,000 per week. An absolute disgrace

Your second favourite "not a United player" in the headlines today as well.Fill your boots

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-flop-memphis-depay-9530225

adox

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Eh yes I did. Go have a read there love.

This is what i can find:

Pheonix10 wrote: »

We still may not get it but don't think Liverpool will, just my opinion.

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Haha because football doesn't work like clockwork. After 5 games of the season, everyone was saying City would walk the league and Pep was a genius. Well that has slowed down. There are twists in turns throughout each season. It doesn't just go exactly how we expect it too, thats why we watch it.

bangkok

astradave wrote: »

Your second favourite "not a United player" in the headlines today as well.Fill your boots

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manchester-united-flop-memphis-depay-9530225

let him on, wont be a united player for much longer

wanderer100

Can't get enough of this

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/814520358069936128

Flint Fredstone

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Im not saying I think its true or not but if you have never drank Alcohol would you know what it tasted like?

No but you would be more put out by the taste. You would certainly know it wasn't just coke.

Is the Boro game on tele lads?

wiz569

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Is the Boro game on tele lads?

SS5 Irish version only

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Sky Sports 5 (ROI only) / HD
Smart Spor HD (turkey)
Sport TV3 (portugal) / HD
TV2 Sport Premium 1 HD
Viasat Sport Premium / HD
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| NBC Premier League Extra Time
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| ViaPlay (denmark) / HD

Trigger

wanderer100 wrote: »

Can't get enough of this

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/814520358069936128

Can see why the Linesman didn't even have a second thought.. not one Sunderland player appealed for Offside.

GSPfan

If Firminhos religion doesn't allow him to drink then this coke mixing story is the story he is sticking to for the sake of his religion. The law will laugh it off as ludicrous but if his church buys it then mission accomplished for him. He can go on pretending he doesn't drink and being a good disciple of god.

niallo27

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Because of course, you yourself are just here for honest discourse of the intellectual variety with like minded individuals....

People absolutely should come in and discuss stuff, it's just painful when they pick out one post and make a bigger point of it than is necessary.

You won't find them when it's a discussion on the finer points of how to get the best out of Martial, but the minute anything slightly related to their own teams crop up, they'll be in to argue the toss for multiple posts.

Forgot about me. It's too easy just posting the same stuff about me over and over. Plenty of good posters have been put down here because they dare to have a different opinion. Opposition fans don't watch enough of utd players usually to have a real valid opinion so usually when their club is being discussed they come in and offer a different view. I don't see a problem in this.

jayo26

GSPfan wrote: »

If Firminhos religion doesn't allow him to drink then this coke mixing story is the story he is sticking to for the sake of his religion. The law will laugh it off as ludicrous but if his church buys it then mission accomplished for him. He can go on pretending he doesn't drink and being a good disciple of god.

It was Yaya that doesn't drink because of his religion and thought he was drinking coke and so far it looks like just firminho been brainless and breaking the law.

GSPfan

Thanks Jayo. If thats the case then Firminho is just foolish and got caught. The mixing of the coke with alcohol and not knowing is hillarious. Just admit you thought you were under the limit but weren't.

jayo26

GSPfan wrote: »

Thanks Jayo. If thats the case then Firminho is just foolish and got caught. The mixing of the coke with alcohol and not knowing is hillarious. Just admit you thought you were under the limit but weren't.

To be fair to Yaya he pleaded guilty but said he wanted to explain himself but I felt it was more for an image saving exercise then anything but only he will know.

Players are too quick to use Religion to defend themself's or in pap cisse case he used it to engineer a move from Newcastle saying the club sponsor a gambling company was against his religion until he was pictured in a casino and he backed down.

Players and all claim to be religious but yet they don't mind picking up wages from clubs that are backed by families linked to human rights problems and what not its very short sighted.

keane2097

When you add vodka, whiskey, gin or any other spirit to coke you know ****ing well that you're not drinking plain coke - give me a break.

Will happily engage in a prolonged blind taste test to prove it if anyone wants to buy me liquor.

Korat

Cool the jets on Firminho lads. He wasn’t using driving-inhibiting alcohol, it was a special fat burning alcohol that didn’t affect his ability to drive. Nothing to see here.

Korat

Korat wrote: »

Cool the jets on Firminho lads. He wasn’t using driving-inhibiting alcohol, it was a special fat burning alcohol that didn’t affect his ability to drive. Nothing to see here.

In his home country it is actually a child's juice drink consumed on jovial occasions.

the whole year inn

keane2097 wrote: »

When you add vodka, whiskey, gin or any other spirit to coke you know ****ing well that you're not drinking plain coke - give me a break.

Will happily engage in a prolonged blind taste test to prove it if anyone wants to buy me liquor.

A big jug of coke with some vodka in it, could easy drink it and not notice.Whats the amount of shots have to drink before over the limit. I always thought it wasn't that much before you are over the limit.Not unreasonable for him to think the coke was just a bit off, he doesnt know what alcohol tastes like.Either way he pleaded guilty.

Flint Fredstone

the whole year inn wrote: »

A big jug of coke with some vodka in it, could easy drink it and not notice.Whats the amount of shots have to drink before over the limit. I always thought it wasn't that much before you are over the limit.Not unreasonable for him to think the coke was just a bit off, he doesnt know what alcohol tastes like.Either way he pleaded guilty.

People don't fill up big jugs of Coke to put a tiny shot of vodka in it.

Say that was the case, he would have had to drink the entire jug on his own to put him over. Maybe 2 jugs considering his size.

bucketybuck

niallo27 wrote: »

Plenty of good posters have been put down here because they dare to have a different opinion.

Perhaps if certain people weren't repeatedly trolling then the well wouldn't be poisoned for the genuine posters.

jayo26

For him not to taste the vodka in a jug of coke it would of had to be such a low concentration that he would would need to drink a couple large jugs to be over the limit I think he was actually double the limit?

If I add even half a shot glass of vodka to a bottle of coke you can taste it really strong from it I don't believe the never tasting alcohol before excuse because vodka is bloody rank in coke you wouldn't drink a couple jugs of it and not suspect the coke been mixed with something or if you thought it was off your not going to keep drinking it.

GSPfan

Who would pour litres of coke from a sealed plastic bottle into a jug or container in anyway? Would you not just leave it in the bleedin bottle?

If I see coke not in its original container I'd immediately assume its mixed with alcohol.

Anyway... Forget the league position as I reckon we are winning the Europa League. Why not ay?!

bangkok

the whole year inn wrote: »

A big jug of coke with some vodka in it, could easy drink it and not notice.Whats the amount of shots have to drink before over the limit. I always thought it wasn't that much before you are over the limit.Not unreasonable for him to think the coke was just a bit off, he doesnt know what alcohol tastes like.Either way he pleaded guilty.

Lol

He is a multi millionaire, if his coke was "a bit off" I'm sure he could have bought a different one

the whole year inn

GSPfan wrote: »

Who would pour litres of coke from a sealed plastic bottle into a jug or container in anyway? Would you not just leave it in the bleedin bottle?

If I see coke not in its original container I'd immediately assume its mixed with alcohol.

Anyway... Forget the league position as I reckon we are winning the Europa League. Why not ay?!

I'll leave it this but are you serious? Pour it into a jug with ice, it was a party he was at, you questioning why would anyone use a jug.

jayo26

GSPfan wrote: »

Who would pour litres of coke from a sealed plastic bottle into a jug or container in anyway? Would you not just leave it in the bleedin bottle?

If I see coke not in its original container I'd immediately assume its mixed with alcohol.

Anyway... Forget the league position as I reckon we are winning the Europa League. Why not ay?!

Yhh id love us to go all the way in Europe it would be a great way of qualification to champs league and even better if we don't make top four.

We should have a better idea of the shape and condition of the team by the time the next round of Europe kicks off.

Cantona's Collars

Maybe Yaya went to dripdoctors with Nasri and got it via IV.:):)

The_Kew_Tour

It's now ok to Drink and Drive.

Lol

Cantona's Collars

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

It's now ok to Drink and Drive.

Lol

Only if you are Brazilian and playing for Liverpool, sure it's only a bit of craic around Merseyside.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

adox wrote: »

This is what i can find:

So as you can see in the last post, I based my opinion on the standard unpredictability of football. The same way you keep supporting when your team is 2.0 down. Just because something is unlikely doesn't meant it won't happen.

They have a light squad and one key player is going to the ACN.

GSPfan

the whole year inn wrote: »

I'll leave it this but are you serious? Pour it into a jug with ice, it was a party he was at, you questioning why would anyone use a jug.

Yes I'm 100% questioning why someone would pour a soft drink into a jug if it wasn't for the purpose for mixing with alcohol. I've never seen it therefore I wonder why it was done.

I'm assuming this is an adult only party if a jug of coke with alcohol for anyone to drink is readily available. Has anyone ever seen an adult party where everyone is drinking but there is a jug of coke with ice with no alcohol? Genuine question?

We're way off topic but I am only hearing this excuse to explain drink driving today so I'm genuinely surprise someone had the guts to say it out loud. Its quiet in here these days anyway so what else can we talk about.

TitianGerm

GSPfan wrote: »

Yes I'm 100% questioning why someone would pour a soft drink into a jug if it wasn't for the purpose for mixing with alcohol. I've never seen it therefore I wonder why it was done.

I'm assuming this is an adult only party if a jug of coke with alcohol for anyone to drink is readily available. Has anyone ever seen an adult party where everyone is drinking but there is a jug of coke with ice with no alcohol? Genuine question?

We're way off topic but I am only hearing this excuse to explain drink driving today so I'm genuinely surprise someone had the guts to say it out loud. Its quiet in here these days anyway so what else can we talk about.

Honest question but do you think a multi millionaire hosting a fancy party for his/her millionaire friends would have plastic bottles lying around?

The party Yaya was at was probably done by a catering agency and everything was probably laid out.

the whole year inn

GSPfan wrote: »

Yes I'm 100% questioning why someone would pour a soft drink into a jug if it wasn't for the purpose for mixing with alcohol. I've never seen it therefore I wonder why it was done.

I'm assuming this is an adult only party if a jug of coke with alcohol for anyone to drink is readily available. Has anyone ever seen an adult party where everyone is drinking but there is a jug of coke with ice with no alcohol? Genuine question?

We're way off topic but I am only hearing this excuse to explain drink driving today so I'm genuinely surprise someone had the guts to say it out loud. Its quiet in here these days anyway so what else can we talk about.

Its not an excuse for it, you check the City fourm you ll see I was one of the first to slate yaya about this. I agreed he deserved his ban and fine.Yes of course refreshments have been put in jugs without alcohol in them.

adox

Pheonix10 wrote: »

So as you can see in the last post, I based my opinion on the standard unpredictability of football. The same way you keep supporting when your team is 2.0 down. Just because something is unlikely doesn't meant it won't happen.

They have a light squad and one key player is going to the ACN.

That's not an opinion at all though. I mean if you say " I don't think Liverpool will finish in the top 4" and when asked why you hold that opinion you say "because football is unpredictable and anything can happen" that's not anywhere near an opinion on the question asked. Sure I could say I think Chelsea will get relegated this season and if someone asks me why I hold that view, come back with "footballs unpredictable...". It's just nonsense.

Your last line above is the only bit of insight you have shed into why you hold that view.

Oh and you still haven't answered why you felt the need to refer to me as "love".

Kerrydude1981

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

It's now ok to Drink and Drive.

Lol

Just waiting for a story to come out telling us that the cops were drunk and its all been great craic

adox

Pheonix10 wrote: »

So as you can see in the last post, I based my opinion on the standard unpredictability of football. The same way you keep supporting when your team is 2.0 down. Just because something is unlikely doesn't meant it won't happen.

They have a light squad and one key player is going to the ACN.

Sorry to harp on about this but does the above bolded not mean that you think it's unlikely that Liverpool will finish outside the top four but rather hope they will, which is a far cry from declaring that they will?