Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

bucketybuck

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Without Carrick in the team we wouldn't be even sitting in 6th
Maybe the required quality for that position is still not available, he's having one of his finest seasons
No harm in another year and have him as secondary next season while a full time replacement is brought into the team in the
summer
I would like to think Carrick and ibra share similarities when it comes to rubbishing the notion that at your mid thirties you are suddenly in decline.

Without Scholes coming back we might not have won the title.

But surely you can see the parallels between the two? Our midfield suffered for years because we kept going back to the same well instead of properly addressing the issues, and with Carrick it seems history is repeating itself.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

Without Scholes coming back we might not have won the title.

But surely you can see the parallels between the two? Our midfield suffered for years because we kept going back to the same well instead of properly addressing the issues, and with Carrick it seems history is repeating itself.

I'm not debating that. He needs replacing we all know that

deaddonkey15

Not too impressed with Schweinsteiger today.

Lucas Hood

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Not too impressed with Schweinsteiger today.

Didn't look bothered at all.

Kerrydude1981

Nice and handy win

No struggle this year in the third round

Roll on Tuesday night

deaddonkey15

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Not too impressed with Schweinsteiger today.

Lol he hardly played for more than 20 minutes

Lord TSC

I know this will sound selfish and sour after an easy win....but I was kind of disappointed, because we should have won by many, many more goals.

But still, I'd much rather have that complaint that where we we last season so I'll shut up now :P

Hococop

Lord TSC wrote: »

I know this will sound selfish and sour after an easy win....but I was kind of disappointed, because we should have won by many, many more goals.

But still, I'd much rather have that complaint that where we we last season so I'll shut up now :P

Agreed, but remember at the start of the season we had this same problem and it cost us big time, annoying its still a bit of an issue

Zlatan would have loved to have played topped up his goal tally ha

jaykay74

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Lol he hardly played for more than 20 minutes

Not so much how he played but he looked a little... plump.

jaykay74

jaykay74 wrote: »

Not so much how he played but he looked a little... plump.

That comes with not playing

beno619

bucketybuck wrote: »

Needs to be done though, sooner rather than later. When I hear about new contracts I wonder if we are just repeating the Scholes mistake, sticking with a guy long past the point where it was healthy for the team.

I'd be surprised is José isn't looking at the position.

It's probably the most important bit of business we'll need to get done next summer.

beno619

M!Ck^ wrote: »

That comes with not playing

Ah now, should be in tip top shape regardless.

This team are too over-reliant on Ibra and his goals.

jaykay74

M!Ck^ wrote: »

That comes with not playing

Match fitness maybe lacking from lack of games but he shouldn't be so out of shape. Looked like a player from a Man Utd v Liverpool legends game. Not quite razor rudduck but on the way.

adox

jaykay74 wrote: »

Not so much how he played but he looked a little... plump.

Ah he didn't bother his hole when he came on either. S Todd around when the game went past him in midfield.

Anyway no biggie as he's not part of the plans and rightly so.

Hoping Jose's midfield man comes in this window but think it may be the summer.

If Morgan is sold I would expect a replacement to come in for him but maybe the "the" player that Jose wants to sit behind Pogba and Herrera on a regular basis.

Carrick for all his excellent play and worth throughout the years is still not going to be able to do it against the top teams. He always struggled a bit against them and with his age now he's even less likely to.

Well done to Rooney on equalling the record. Fantastic achievement. Hopefully he breaks it and is moved on in the summer and the squad takes shape properly.

RobertKK

Jake Humphrey really wants Rooney to break the record against Liverpool.

beno619

beno619 wrote: »

Ah now, should be in tip top shape regardless.

Well he only resumed training in November if I'm correct
And hasn't had much gametime
I would like to see evidence of him looking plump. A picture would help

adox

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Well he only resumed training in November if I'm correct
And hasn't had much gametime
I would like to see evidence of him looking plump. A picture would help

He's been carrying a bit of extra weight since he arrived at Utd.

jaykay74

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Well he only resumed training in November if I'm correct
And hasn't had much gametime
I would like to see evidence of him looking plump. A picture would help

Well, he was on tv for the last 20 minutes or so jogging slowly around the place.

RobertKK

Scholes shares the same opinion as me - United beat Liverpool and United are in the title race, and Chelsea are not as good as being made out to be.

Sounds like Jose is lining up Rooney sub to score the winner against Liverpool in the 87th
Boom

bangkok

ashley youngs dive was pathetic as well

RobertKK

Jose seems to be saying the bad period this season, brought the team together and made the team better.

bangkok

adox wrote: »

He's been carrying a bit of extra weight since he arrived at Utd.

he has always looked like that, high chest and stomach

http://assets-cdn.ekantipur.com/images/the-kathmandu-post-archive/2015/20150711bastian-schweinsteiger-close-to-manchester-united-move.jpg

bangkok

bangkok wrote: »

ashley youngs dive was pathetic as well

ah it wasnt that bad 5.5/10 not his best though

Unearthly

It's a good dive if you get a free kick for it

phenom

stankratz wrote: »

This team are too over-reliant on Ibra and his goals.

Not at all.... all of our attack options are more that capable of grabbing goals. You dont drop a player thats in form.

Kerrydude1981

Has Young ever been booked for diving?

I cant remember,he just seems to have it down to a fine art

That been said there is plenty more in the game that have the nack of manufacturing a free

anything on the box at 3 worth watching?

bangkok

Deleted User wrote: »

anything on the box at 3 worth watching?

kindergarten Cop on UTV

secman

Nice to see a comfortable win after making manychanges and all 4 goals from forwards. Keeping a clean sheet too. Train is purring nicely along....

adox

bangkok wrote: »

he has always looked like that, high chest and stomach

http://assets-cdn.ekantipur.com/images/the-kathmandu-post-archive/2015/20150711bastian-schweinsteiger-close-to-manchester-united-move.jpg

Nope not the extent he has been since at Utd and perhaps even his last season at Bayern.

I'm aware of his natural physique btw. I'm 50 years of age and a football fan so have come across Mr Schweinstiger in my football watching years.

M!Ck^

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Lol he hardly played for more than 20 minutes

That's true Mick, but in fairness I wouldn't go just as far as a lol at the OP's sentiment. When Basti came on for 10 minutes v West Ham at the start of December, he was very keen to impose himself on the game. His initiative created the 4th and final goal in that match, plus he had some good touches and passes as well as trying to orchestrate movement around the middle.

I was delighted to see him come on today, but unfortunately saw very little to none of the above. At 2-0 up, I really felt and hoped that a 3rd goal would see him released from the bench. Now, you can't be expecting the same from him in every game as his West Ham appearance in terms of standing out, not from a player who plays so little, but I did notice today how he seemed content to watch the game pass by. To exaggerate the example - Dress him in a ref's kit, and their movements weren't too dissimilar most of the time!

No harm at all in the end. He didn't have a stinker, just barely featured. It's very hard to properly judge him though from off the bench and a few goals up. Just as I wouldn't be using his West Ham appearance to say that he is vital to the squad, I wouldn't be using today's to say that he is of no use to us. Rather than waiting another 5 weeks for another appearance though, I'd like to see him get minutes against Hull on Tuesday, or sometime soon.

I hope that he is part of the squad for the remainder of the season, I wonder if he can be registered for the knockout stages of the Europa. To compete in all competitions, we need the depth in CM if Morgan departs in January.

Plus, it can't be overlooked: Percentage of games won this season where Schweinsteiger featured - 100% :pac:

adox

bucketybuck wrote: »

Today is a good example of why Rashford has so much promise, but also that he is not yet ready.

Because he missed so many chances? Way too small a sample size to support that.

Sure you could take half a dozen games from earlier in the season from Ibra and say he's past it, not sharp enough etc.

phenom

phenom wrote: »

Not at all.... all of our attack options are more that capable of grabbing goals. You dont drop a player thats in form.

I was saying that in jest, because others, mainly Enoch Old Pussycats, have it in their Top 5 United fallacies as of late.

adox

https://twitter.com/manutd_hq/status/817743754253705216

Flint Fredstone

Just seen that Rooney got MOTM. The English are mad.

jayo26

Rashford had a great game today yeh his finishing let him down but Zlatan wouldn't of done better because rashford used his pace and movement to get onto some of them chances. Serious talent of he bulks up and gets meaner.

DM_7

That was easy for Rashford, just had to make a run and they left loads of space to run into. Crazy defending.

Whoever Jose gets to watch the opposition had them well scouted as whenever United had the ball deep they were looking for a long pass or in Smallings case ready to run into the midfield when they dropped off.

Robson99

bangkok wrote: »

not ready??! he is more than ready, lad is a serious talent

One of the best prospects I ave seen in years. Some people easily forget hes only 19 and others that knock him know sweet fa about football

phenom

stankratz wrote: »

I was saying that in jest, because others, mainly Enoch Old Pussycats, have it in their Top 5 United fallacies as of late.

I see. These obseverers wouldn't be the same people that after a win claim to win the league?

Dwarf.Shortage

jayo26 wrote: »

Rashford had a great game today yeh his finishing let him down but Zlatan wouldn't of done better because rashford used his pace and movement to get onto some of them chances. Serious talent of he bulks up and gets meaner.

I'd rather not see him bulk up if it slows him down, he's never going to be a conventional hold the ball up number nine like.

Himself Martial Griezeman as a front three would be class. Pace & trickery to burn and completely interchangeable positionally.

There's no big man or conventional nine but Spain won the 2012 Euro's final with a keeper, a back four and six central midfield players (Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Iniesta, Silva, Busquets and Fabregas) starting because they were all technicians and interchangeable, it's impossible to go man to man as nobody is playing in a fixed position. Anyone can turn up anywhere and with such quality players that's a nightmare to defend against.

I'm sure many will disagree but I could see it being an excellent frontline if you got the right two players into midfield alongside Pogba. You would want at least one no nonsense defensive midfielder, like Matic in José's first season back with Chelsea.

caviardreams

Dwarf.Shortage wrote: »

I'd rather not see him bulk up if it slows him down, he's never going to be a conventional hold the ball up number nine like.
.

Bulking up won't slow him down. Just ask Usain Bolt

Dwarf.Shortage

caviardreams wrote: »

Bulking up won't slow him down. Just ask Usain Bolt

That's where the word if comes in.

DM_7

caviardreams wrote: »

Bulking up won't slow him down. Just ask Usain Bolt

Thats not really true, well unless you only want him to do sprints a few hours apart.

phenom

phenom wrote: »

I see. These obseverers wouldn't be the same people that after a win claim to win the league?

I'm resisting, for now. We must be strong, just for 8 more days. Then we can unleash the hounds.

Dwarf.Shortage

DM_7 wrote: »

Thats not really true, well unless you only want him to do sprints a few hours apart.

Yeah it's a concern in terms of agility/ability to change direction quickly rather than top speed over a large distance.

Lord TSC

Martial is on 23 goals for us now, since he joined.

Apparently we owe Monacco €10m when he hits his 25th.

Headshot

Lord TSC wrote: »

Martial is on 23 goals for us now, since he joined.

Apparently we owe Monacco €10m when he hits his 25th.

You look back now and see 50m pus was brilliant business, what a talent

brinty

Emmmm lads
How about Fosu Mensah replacing Carrick,big strong solid guy kinda like Jose normally wants there
Good positional sense sat right where Carrick was when he came on.