Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

Robson99

RobertKK wrote: »

All good and Rooney primed for Sunday.

Cant see Rooney starting on Sunday and possible he wont even feature

mewe

RobertKK wrote: »

All good and Rooney primed for Sunday.

Be nice to break the record against the pool!

Robson99

adox wrote: »

Mata motm for me.

Underwhelming performance against a heavily depleted Hull team. A few players looked like they were just out for a kickabout.

Anyway good result. Tie not quite dead but Utd obviously huge favourites now.

Thought Valencia was excellent

Quandary

Good result tonight against a well drilled Hull side. Sunday is the big test now. It would be delicious to put another nail in their title hopes coffin.

yabadabado

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

What's that now 9 wins in a row?

Yup 9 and 15 unbeaten.

Kerrydude1981

So many chances being created,things will click and someone is going get a right hammering one of these days

Also Fellaini and chest control very few better then him at that

Quandary

Quandary wrote: »

Good result tonight against a well drilled Hull side. Sunday is the big test now. It would be delicious to put another nail in their title hopes coffin.

For me it's about getting Utd back into the title race
**** Liverpool and their title hopes

adox

Nearly getting all the money back on Morgan is a great (and surprising) deal.

No sympathy for the lad. Maybe he thought he'd made the big time when he signed but he never seemed to apply himself properly on the pitch when he got the chance.

Great to see Utd finally playing hard ball with fees when selling players instead of giving them away.

I reckon Jose buys a midfielder this month. Just hope it's the player he has in mind for that defensive midfielder role.

RobertKK

Phil Neville, I argued that Mata wanted to leave Chelsea to join United, and Jose played him less at Chelsea knowing he was leaving.
I think similar to the way lesser talented players like Memphis and Schneiderlin were dropped given they want to leave.

Liam McPoyle

Fcukin love Jose.

jayo26

Love jose mentality he saying that with 30 mins to go in cup tie the players had no reason to celebrate a goal.

Morgan to score the winner against city
Sleeper agent engaged

adox

Nice interview from Jose.

"The players needed to do better, I needed to do better, the crowd needed to do better.."

adox

This bollix with Sky about the offside. He ****ing looked onside in real time. The defender was moving back toward the goal as Mata was moving away from the goal.


Get over it ffs.

Robson99

adox wrote: »

This bollix with Sky about the offside. He ****ing looked onside in real time. The defender was moving back toward the goal as Mata was moving away from the goal.


Get over it ffs.

Freeze the camera a couple hundreds of a second further on and he is on side. Too tight for the linesman to call and the benefit is supposed to go to the attacker.

Lucas Hood

RobertKK wrote: »

Phil Neville, I argued that Mata wanted to leave Chelsea to join United, and Jose played him less at Chelsea knowing he was leaving.
I think similar to the way lesser talented players like Memphis and Schneiderlin were dropped given they want to leave.

Mourinho said Memphis wasn't featuring because he asked to leave a few weeks so that's true.

bangkok

Professional performance tonight, should be enough to see us through to the final. Now watch the pool pick up a few injuries and suspensions tomorrow night hopefully then hammer them on Sunday!!

NoviGlitzko

Was happy for Fellani to shut up the boo boys.

Who would you start on Sunday as our wingers folks? Would like to see Mata & Mkhitaryan myself with Rashers & Tony coming on after 60 mins to run at them.

RobertKK

Jose said Morgan wanted to play every game, that he really likes him and saw him as an option in a long season, but he wanted to leave and that he is happy for him and that he is a true professional.

I guess the message in that is United need another option.

RobertKK

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Was happy for Fellani to shut up the boo boys.

Who would you start on Sunday as our wingers folks? Would like to see Mata & Mkhitaryan myself with Rashers & Tony coming on after 60 mins to run at them.

Would like to have the usual midfield trio of Carrick, Herrera and Pogba, with Mata, Zlatan and Mkhitaryan.

bangkok

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

Was happy for Fellani to shut up the boo boys.

Who would you start on Sunday as our wingers folks? Would like to see Mata & Mkhitaryan myself with Rashers & Tony coming on after 60 mins to run at them.

Herrera. Carrick. Pogba


Mkhitarayan zlatan. Martial

Robson99

bangkok wrote: »

Herrera. Carrick. Pogba


Mkhitarayan zlatan. Martial

Would start martial as well. Need a bit of width and pace

Liam O

The difference between Schneiderlin and Fellaini is something that again comes to the fore on a day like today.

Ask any average fan and I'd wager that 90% of them would scoff at the idea that Fellaini is the better player yet if you look at both their United careers you see just how underrated Fellaini has been in his time and how disappointing Schneiderlin has been.

Both moved for similar fees and are similar types of player. Fellaini treated like garbage by fans despite nearly always performing to a high level relative to everyone else in the team while Schneiderlin not showing the effort or skill required got a free pass from a lot of people who clearly weren't judging the players from their actual contributions.

2 managers, including the one who signed Schneiderlin preferred Fellaini and he makes over 100 appearances for the team. Schneiderlin struggles to make any impact and looked completely out of his depth. Everton are bonkers for paying that much imo as he's just not a very good player who had a system at Southampton which made him look better than he is.

I guess it shows what the media perception of a player can do.

yabadabado

Liam O wrote: »

The difference between Schneiderlin and Fellaini is something that again comes to the fore on a day like today.

Ask any average fan and I'd wager that 90% of them would scoff at the idea that Fellaini is the better player yet if you look at both their United careers you see just how underrated Fellaini has been in his time and how disappointing Schneiderlin has been.

Both moved for similar fees and are similar types of player. Fellaini treated like garbage by fans despite nearly always performing to a high level relative to everyone else in the team while Schneiderlin not showing the effort or skill required got a free pass from a lot of people who clearly weren't judging the players from their actual contributions.

2 managers, including the one who signed Schneiderlin preferred Fellaini and he makes over 100 appearances for the team. Schneiderlin struggles to make any impact and looked completely out of his depth. Everton are bonkers for paying that much imo as he's just not a very good player who had a system at Southampton which made him look better than he is.

I guess it shows what the media perception of a player can do.

Koeman is under a bit of pressure and knows Morgan Id reckon thats the main reason they have gone for him.
They may well set up the cm to get the very best of MS and he will again look good.Everton/Southampton are his level,he probably would have been a good squad player for United but it seems he didn't want that.

Good luck to him,United more or less got the fee back and hopefully they buy a cm this month who will offer something to the squad .

RobertKK

Schneiderlin's only goal for United.

https://twitter.com/efcfeelinblue/status/818920993204932609

jimmytwotimes 2013

Fair play to Schneiderlin for wanting more than a squad place. Shame it didn't work out but best of luck to him.

TheDoc

Impressed with Phelan in his Sky appearance. Missed the buildup so maybe missed something , but was very amicable and professional considering he was sacked from there so recently and in the circumstances.

Has something about him. Always impressive and interesting in any of the interviews and pressers I saw of him while at Hull. Be interested to see how he goes in his next job.

Regarding the match, nothing that hasn't been said already. Good result, performance and crowd a bit flat. Clever post match from Jose to get people firing for Sunday.

Imagine he's going to take the game to Liverpool big time.

TheDoc

Also wish Schneiderlan well in his move. Disappointed it didn't work out for him and hope he can get his career back on track

jayo26

TheDoc wrote: »

Impressed with Phelan in his Sky appearance. Missed the buildup so maybe missed something , but was very amicable and professional considering he was sacked from there so recently and in the circumstances.

Has something about him. Always impressive and interesting in any of the interviews and pressers I saw of him while at Hull. Be interested to see how he goes in his next job.

Regarding the match, nothing that hasn't been said already. Good result, performance and crowd a bit flat. Clever post match from Jose to get people firing for Sunday.

Imagine he's going to take the game to Liverpool big time.

Ohh god no i thought he was dull even Phill gave more tactical insight then phelan...

duffman13

TheDoc wrote: »

Impressed with Phelan in his Sky appearance. Missed the buildup so maybe missed something , but was very amicable and professional considering he was sacked from there so recently and in the circumstances.

Has something about him. Always impressive and interesting in any of the interviews and pressers I saw of him while at Hull. Be interested to see how he goes in his next job.

Regarding the match, nothing that hasn't been said already. Good result, performance and crowd a bit flat. Clever post match from Jose to get people firing for Sunday.

Imagine he's going to take the game to Liverpool big time.

Didn't watch it on Sky but the funny thing is Hull had been playing well* with very limited resources. It's a results game though but I reckon he will do well in his next job. (*I've seen them play 4 times in the last month or so)

Rayne Wooney

I hope we got all of our misses out of the way today because if it happens at the weekend we'll lose.

MuPpItJoCkEy

Sad it didn't work out for Schneiderlin but good look to him. Stayed pro. Didn't cause any trouble and from what I can see, Jose liked him. Really had high expectations of him but alas, it doesn't always work out. Getting in £22 back for him is excellent though and now it looks like a defensive midfilder is required.

What would you guys think of William Carvalho from Sporting Lisbon? They're out of Europe now and doesn't look like they will bebothering Benfica at the top.

Personally I think he's a great player. A big enough (6ft1 or so) defensive midfielder who is good on the ball who also has a good pass on him and Mourinho likes his players to have that commanding presense about them. Since Bastian is there and getting a wee look in at the moment, if there was an injury in midfield, he could cover for now but maybe in the summer Carvalho could be gotten and his release clause is at £35m or so.

With Depay most probably heading out the door too, the funds should be made up. Depay was brought in to do magic on the wings but as things worked out, Rashford was unearthed for nothing which means a free and better replacement for Depay so that money can be added to replace elsewhere on the pitch. Not saying Rashford ideal position is the wings but saying that Depay wouldn't be a loss if gone as he's done nowt to impress.

Cantona's Collars

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/818961368162377728

Lyon are attempting to sign Adnan Januzaj from Manchester United, he is their priority, according to L'Équipe

RobertKK

Some Squawka tweets about Mata and Pogba.

https://twitter.com/squawka/status/818930714112655360

https://twitter.com/squawka/status/818948287025807360

Cantona's Collars

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-trying-hijack-evertons-9597984

The Mirror saying that WBA are trying to gazump Everton's bid to sign Schneiderlin with an improved offer.

That wasn't a bad game of football, just not United's best performance as of late. Thankfully that second goal came about, as Jose fielded a team which signified that he wanted to try to put the tie away in the first leg. 2-0 gives him a fair enough return on that outlay in the end.

It's still frustrating to see certain chances being missed though. The likes of a snap shot which Mata had early on in the game after a low ball across from Darmian, I wouldn't count that as one of those missed chances. Mata did well to get good contact on the ball and he forced a decent save from the keeper. It's the likes of Mkhitaryan's miss early on where he hit it wide from close range after a low ball in. Then in the second half, Rooney had the chance to beat the record with a really nice goal after a fantastic ball hit through from Mkhi, only for Rooney to drill it the wide side of the post. They're the kind of chances we should be at least hitting the target with.

Back to the positives - I thought Darmian had a very good game at LB, great to see. He didn't face much of a threat at the back in fairness, but he did well on the attack and made some decent runs on the overlap. He played that precise ball in to Mata in the first half, where he looked up before hitting the ball and picked out Mata rather than just keeping the head down and drilling it across the box. Then there was his perfect cross for Fellaini's clever header, again carried out with precision rather than just aimlessly swinging it into the box.

Well done Fellaini. Good work to win that bit of space for himself as Darmian's cross floated in. Then as the goalkeeper ran across to make a tight angle that bit tighter, Fellaini said "nope" and lofted it back across him to the the farside of the goal. A nice touch in the aftermath too with player and manager celebrating together. It was an important goal for the tie, but huge for Fellaini. As well as that, his goal sees another successful substitution made by Mourinho following other examples recently. Like Mata and Rashford coming on to turn the game in the win v West Ham last week.

Speaking of Mata, what a man. Valencia too, good shifts from both of them.

That's that for now, hopefully a Wembley appearance in the bag. I'm looking forward to United getting back to the league campaign though after two enjoyable cup games. There's a nice bit of momentum there now to take into the next game. 15 games unbeaten, 9 wins in a row, one foot in a cup final which the players do actually look forward to enjoy once they get there. The unbeaten run has to come to an end sometime and the next opposition are a level above that of the last few weeks, I feel though that the win is there for the taking. Hopefully Jose fields a team and game-plan on Sunday with that in mind.

hufpc8w3adnk65

zerks wrote: »

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/west-brom-trying-hijack-evertons-9597984

The Mirror saying that WBA are trying to gazump Everton's bid to sign Schneiderlin with an improved offer.

Let's get Ed on the phone to a few Chinese clubs to. If we could manage to turn a profit it would be sensational

MagicIRL

I think Mane and his pace will be a huge loss for Liverpool on Sunday.

Everyone knows Liverpool cannot defend and rely on dominating the game to win. United are creating so many chances but not converting most of them.

It's going to be a super game...or another Red Monday :pac:

3pts.

ElChe32

zerks wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GFFN/status/818961368162377728

I will personally row him across the English channel and deliver him to Lyon.

TitianGerm

MagicIRL wrote: »

I think Mane and his pace will be a huge loss for Liverpool on Sunday.

Everyone knows Liverpool cannot defend and rely on dominating the game to win. United are creating so many chances but not converting most of them.

It's going to be a super game...or another Red Monday :pac:

3pts.

We have conceeded 23 goals so far in the league. United have 19. Not a massive difference in fairness. One extra goal every 5 games so far.

SteM

emmetkenny wrote: »

We have conceeded 23 goals so far in the league. United have 19. Not a massive difference in fairness. One extra goal every 5 games so far.

Conceded 16 away from home though which is the most of the top 6.

Crimson King

emmetkenny wrote: »

We have conceeded 23 goals so far in the league. United have 19. Not a massive difference in fairness. One extra goal every 5 games so far.

Whilst true the difference is 'pool have conceded 16 of their 23 away from home, whereas United have conceded 8 of their 19 at home and even then that has improved greatly lately as Jose was beating the ghost out of LVG's poison tactics.

I expect both teams to go for it this time, draws are what have United in 6th.

TitianGerm

SteM wrote: »

Conceded 16 away from home though which is the most of the top 6.

Yes that's fair enough, 4 against Bournemouth where we fell apart, 3 against Arsenal on the opening day and 2 against Burnley where they scored two very nice break away goals, so that's 9 of our 16 in three games. What I'm trying to say when it goes wrong it goes spectacularly wrong :pac:

But the poster I responded to said we can't defend. If we can't defend surely we would have conceeded way more five extra goals than United?

emmetkenny

emmetkenny wrote: »

Yes that's fair enough, 4 against Bournemouth where we fell apart, 3 against Arsenal on the opening day and 2 against Burnley where they scored two very nice break away goals, so that's 9 of our 16 in three games. What I'm trying to say when it goes wrong it goes spectacularly wrong :pac:

But the poster I responded to said we can't defend. If we can't defend surely we would have conceeded way more five extra goals than United?

We have had out outliers too mainly watford and chelsea games, should be a interesting game no less I havent much of a clue how either will setup but at a guess id say jose will try by pass your press.

Liam O

emmetkenny wrote: »

Yes that's fair enough, 4 against Bournemouth where we fell apart, 3 against Arsenal on the opening day and 2 against Burnley where they scored two very nice break away goals, so that's 9 of our 16 in three games. What I'm trying to say when it goes wrong it goes spectacularly wrong :pac:

But the poster I responded to said we can't defend. If we can't defend surely we would have conceeded way more five extra goals than United?

As he said it's a lot down to the tactics and how much Liverpool have been controlling games as there have been a lot of individual errors in the back line this season for them.

jayo26

We can't go on results if you take anything from Liverpool season they do well against the big teams they won against arsenal and Chelsea and city and drew with us and spurs.

Sunday will be a great game hopefully and hopefully we make it 10 in a row.

TitianGerm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

We have had out outliers too mainly watford and chelsea games, should be a interesting game no less I havent much of a clue how either will setup but at a guess id say jose will try by pass your press.

Yea I know what your saying. It's easy to look at the stats and say so and so have scored/conceeded so many goals but you have to look at the games behind them as well.

I hope it's a better game than the one at Anfield, but in fairness that won't be hard to top

I think City tried to bypass the press and we dealt with that ok. Hard to know how it's going to play out.

We will miss Mane. Henderson doesn't look like he'll make it, Matip is still out and Counthio is just back so may not start. If we had those four I'd be a bit more confident but without we are very light on the bench if we need to change anything during the game.

Crimson King

Liam O wrote: »

As he said it's a lot down to the tactics and how much Liverpool have been controlling games as there have been a lot of individual errors in the back line this season for them.

Good point although he has impressed me a lot this season I still hate seen Rojo dwell on the ball as he has a mistake in him most games.

It's actually funny really, Bailly is one of those defenders that excite me the most as he has it all. Big, strong and brave. Yet United's change of results occurred when he was injured. It will be interesting to see if he walks straight back into the fold when available.

beno619

emmetkenny wrote: »

I think City tried to bypass the press and we dealt with that ok. Hard to know how it's going to play out.

City made a very poor attempt at it tbh.

Well hopefully have a proper out-ball in Zlatan.

Liam O

Crimson King wrote: »

Good point although he has impressed me a lot this season I still hate seen Rojo dwell on the ball as he has a mistake in him most games.

It's actually funny really, Bailly is one of those defenders that excite me the most as he has it all. Big, strong and brave. Yet United's change of results occurred when he was injured. It will be interesting to see if he walks straight back into the fold when available.

Jones and Rojo are first choice at the moment with Smalling behind them. If 1-3 of them aren't injured by the time Bailly comes back then I'd be very surprised!

I prefer defenders who spend a bit more time on the ball. The mistakes look worse but if they can play it out 95% of the time the team work better as a unit and wastes possession a lot less. Helps too having DDG behind them! Rojo was signed by LVG as a left footed ball playing CB but injuries both to him and others stopped him playing there. I can't remember too many mistakes from him in the position.