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Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017
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Problem with this is you will never play those games. Too many to have any focusWas just thinking similar ha. I have a Sega emulator on my pc I must give it a whiz when the child in bed have about 800 games on it.The missus picked me up one of these for a Xmas present
Dave has the right idea. Smaller amount of games and he's more likely to play them to completion
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Just on the Carrick thing, I idly checked for a few posts I made a while ago, about big games and such...The point about that pass is that there was absolutely no pressure on him whatsoever! Look at the right of the GIF, there are no Chelsea players there to even harry him. If Carrick had taken that pass and turned right to face up the field, he could have taken five steps forwards before even having to make a decision. That forward motion has a massive difference to the rest of the front four and the runs they make, and Cleverly would have turned that way.
Carrick did not. He had no awareness of what was behind him, and no confidence to retain possession, he just took the easy option. As Zerks said, it is a snapshot of Carricks mentality. Easy to have 95% pass completion when you are only making passes like that.Carrick? Carrick has scientifically proven that he will cost us in the big games. All he was good for was passing the ball five yards to Paul Scholes, and now Scholes is goneNobody disputes that Carrick is good at intercepting the ball, his problem arises from his over cautious use of the ball when he has it. It was no surprise that the first time the ball was passed to him yesterday he turned and played it back to a CB.I see Utd's midfield tonight has Carrick, Giggs, and Park involved.
This is where we see where Utds good form comes from. I would suggest that if we return to conceding possession in midfield and if our buildup play returns to a more laboured style, that it would highlight just how much effect the likes of Carrick can have on the side, to a net detriment in my opinion.
Did I say a while ago? Actually, those posts are all from 2011.
Five years ago! Its certainly nothing new to question Carricks limitations and its certainly not because of only one game. 0 -
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So back on track.. Evra supposedly has an offer from Crystal Palace according to DiMarzio
Pretty sure the Spurs forum comes up in the feedback thread nearly every year. It's been there an age so theyou don't change it.. must be incredibly repetitive every year
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bucketybuck wrote: »Just on the Carrick thing, I idly checked for a few posts I made a while ago, about big games and such...
Did I say a while ago? Actually, those posts are all from 2011. Five years ago! Its certainly nothing new to question Carricks limitations and its certainly not because of only one game.
In one of your posts you said he had no confidence of retaining possession so he passed it backwards..... is that not retaining possession?
Also for years carrick had one of the highest forward pass percentages to a team mate in europe.0 -
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So back on track.. Evra supposedly has an offer from Crystal Palace according to DiMarzio
Pretty sure the Spurs forum comes up in the feedback thread nearly every year. It's been there an age so theyou don't change it.. must be incredibly repetitive every year
I would be shocked if he came back to OT0 -
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Will probably see more of this threw out the day love Zlatan he looks great craic.0 -
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Dwarf.Shortage wrote: »There was a This Is Football title that you could dive if you hit all four of the back buttons at the same time. You'd be booked most of the time but every so often you'd get an undeserved peno and you're mate would go nuts it was great
Remember at Landsdowne being pitch side with my mates. O'Shea was playing left back and everytime he was over for a throw
"THIS IS FOOTBALL JOHN, THIS IS ****ING FOOTBALL"
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(NB: I'm only repeating what I've read from the analytics bloggers and I'm open to correction on anything I'm misremembering or have missed)
The thing about shot to goal conversion rates is that they are massively prone to variance. Strikers don't take enough shots in a season (or even over multiple seasons in many cases) for the sample sizes to be big enough to tell the skill from the variance when it comes shots/goals conversion rate. The best strikers in the world don't have consistent shot to goal rates from year to year, so that stat just doesn't really tell you anything useful about how good a striker usually is, or how well he's playing right now. You're right about the best shots/goals rates being about 30% any given season iirc, but there isn't a correlation with the leaders in that stat being consistently high in it from year to year, or being the best strikers any given year.
You have to first adjust for things like the type of shot, the location and the type of pass that led to it, then you get information that is reliable and repeatable. This stat is called Expect Goals (xG). If a striker has a good Expected Goals stat this season, he will very likely have a good one next season too. And if he ranks high for xG for his league then he's usually a striker you regocnise as one of the best in that league, or one that you haven't heard of yet but who will be famous soon.
So, if Expected Goals is just the number of chances a striker has, weighted by the quality of those chances, then you can compare Expected Goals to actual goals to try and find who the best finishers are. And when you do that it turns out that while some of the best strikers in the world are better finishers than their peers, it is often by a negligible amount and again there is lots of variance. It turns out that what sets the best goal scorers apart the most is not how well they finish the good chances they get, but how often they get good chances. Because they are fast, or have great off the ball movement, or great control, or can get shots off super quickly, etc.
And when it comes to the best strikers finishing a chance when their team really needs it, again it turns out that that just isn't the case. I used to believe the exact same as you, but in the last few years the analytics people have shown that it just is not true. The numbers show that the best strikers' finishing rates do not improve based on the importance of the chance.
So, for example, Suarez is not a great goal scorer because he slots the ball past the keeper when he only has one big chance in an important game. He is great because he actually ends up with three big chances in that game and he scores one or two of them. But everybody forgets about the missed chances and the myth of the best strikers converting a chance when you really need it perpetuates.
When you realise the truth about what sets the best goal scorers apart it is a real eye opener. You notice how often the greats don't score "simple" chances and how often they get shots away in good positions.
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that would go down really well 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyCOAi0Gs4U
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