Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2017

jayo26

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Strange of Pep to park the bus at 2-0 down

He "ain't no coach for tackles"

Right time for some blind optimism our 22 league game winning run starts today with A josesque 2-0 win.

1 down 21 to go

J. Marston

Four 1-1's in a row coming up.

Cantona's Collars

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Strange of Pep to park the bus at 2-0 down

LVG like this approach, at least he won the passing. If Jose did similar, he'd be crucified.

Irish94

Zaha is enjoying a good run of form with Palace. His goal yesterday was fantastic.

jayo26

Since Sept 28th:

Mourinho : P15 W7 D6 L2

Guardiola : P15 W4 D6 L5

Spot the genius and spot the man living in the past.

Lord TSC

jayo26 wrote: »

Since Sept 28th:

Mourinho : P15 W7 D6 L2

Guardiola : P15 W4 D6 L5

Spot the genius and spot the man living in the past.

Wow, I knew Pep was having a shakey start. Even ignoring how we're doing (to be frank, I don't believe we, as United fans, are in any position to taunt other fans), thats rough for a man many thought would walk the league....

TitianGerm

jayo26 wrote: »

Since Sept 28th:

Mourinho : P15 W7 D6 L2

Guardiola : P15 W4 D6 L5

Spot the genius and spot the man living in the past.

Why haven't you included from the start of the season? Surely that would be a better stat to show seen as both managrs are in their first seasons with new clubs?

jayo26

Lord TSC wrote: »

Wow, I knew Pep was having a shakey start. Even ignoring how we're doing (to be frank, I don't believe we, as United fans, are in any position to taunt other fans), thats rough for a man many thought would walk the league....

It actually wasn't a taunt I think both teams and managers have massively underachieved it was more to point out how different the response has been to jose compared to pep in not only how he has handled players but also how results have been reported.

Headshot

Come on utd

jayo26

emmetkenny wrote: »

Why haven't you included from the start of the season? Surely that would be a better stat to show seen as both managrs are in their first seasons with new clubs?

Because as I said both managers have underachieved it's obvious jose has aswell and the team has but it's purely as a comparison to how both managers have been wrote and talked about in the past 2 or 3 months.

adox

jayo26 wrote: »

Since Sept 28th:

Mourinho : P15 W7 D6 L2

Guardiola : P15 W4 D6 L5

Spot the genius and spot the man living in the past.

Wow I wouldn't believe those stats if I found them randomly online. That is mad.

The league positions of both clubs can't be ignored and does contribute to the narrative(and rightly so) but even accounting for that the coverage of both managers has been completely imbalanced.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

Anyone know of a good 5/1-8/1 shout today on the united game?

Liam McPoyle

In NYC with Mrs RM.

Gonna miss the damn game as we are doing a Harlem gospal tour which starts at 09:30.

Raging.

jayo26

Rod Munch wrote: »

In NYC with Mrs RM.

Gonna miss the damn game as we are doing a Harlem gospal tour which starts at 09:30.

Raging.

Between your new name and your activities at 9:30 I burst out laughing at your post haha.

bantee

Pheonix10 wrote: »

Anyone know of a good 5/1-8/1 shout today on the united game?

Either Micky to score first or 2-1 to United. I might do both!

Rayne Wooney

At the beginning Pep looked like he had the control of Van Gaal with the penetration we were missing, now it just looks like Van Gaal's team with a worse defence now the honeymoon is over.

He seems to have píssed off Aguero, probably tried to tell him how to score goals, which could prove fatal.

If they go on and win the league from here I'll be very very impressed

Trigger

No team on the thread yet.. jaysus

https://twitter.com/ManUtd/status/807936746218541056

Lord TSC

Like that team. Worried about Carrick though, but not sure who I'd have beside him. Looks like...

Carrick
Herrera-Pogba
Mkhi

---

Martial
Ibra

Trigger

Lord TSC wrote: »

Like that team. Worried about Carrick though, but not sure who I'd have beside him. Looks like...

Carrick
Herrera-Pogba
Mkhi

---

Martial
Ibra

Id say Herrera might stay back to cover the ground that Carrick can't

GSPfan

Would it not better to put Blind in instead of Carrick? Blind has great passing and obvious defensive strengths.

Rayne Wooney

Blind is probably worse than Carrick under pressure, fine when he has plenty of space which he won't.

Herrera and Pogba need to put a shift in.

adox

GSPfan wrote: »

Would it not better to put Blind in instead of Carrick? Blind has great passing and obvious defensive strengths.

Possibly but one thing snout Carrick over Blind is he has the positional sense to play that role. Blinds natural instinct is to venture forward and he does get caught up field because of his lack of pace.

Neither are an ideal choice at this stage. Wouldn't be surprised to see Jose bring a player in for that position in January/the summer.

Flint Fredstone

No Mata

adox

I think Utd will win today.

Trigger

Flint Fredstone wrote: »

No Mata

Hes Goosed, per the match thread.

He's on the bench though

madcabbage

A fine impact sub he makes it must be said.

Liam O

Still no idea why United sold Evans. One of the best defenders in the league and great with the ball at his feet.

beno619

Lord TSC wrote: »

Like that team. Worried about Carrick though, but not sure who I'd have beside him. Looks like...

Carrick
Herrera-Pogba
Mkhi

---

Martial
Ibra

I'm more worried about Pogba at #10.

jayo26

Liam O wrote: »

Still no idea why United sold Evans. One of the best defenders in the league and great with the ball at his feet.

He didn't fit the philosophy because it was a process.

Lord TSC

Lord TSC wrote: »

Like that team. Worried about Carrick though, but not sure who I'd have beside him. Looks like...

Carrick
Herrera-Pogba
Mkhi

---

Martial
Ibra

I don't get this tbh

Liam O

M!Ck^ wrote: »

I don't get this tbh

It's the myth that he doesn't do as well when pressed. Despite the fact you could say that about 100% of players in the world.

ShaneU

Liam O wrote: »

Still no idea why United sold Evans. One of the best defenders in the league and great with the ball at his feet.

He was constantly injured

Korat

ShaneU wrote: »

He was constantly injured

And had some absolute howlers in big games. WBA is his level.

Minderbinder

It's hard to justify Martial being in the team ahead of Mata. Martial would be a better option to come off the bench and Mata's ability to retain possession and help us control the game would be more useful than Martial's pace and power from the start.

It's difficult see a scenario where Mata will come on. If we're winning Jose won't be thinking about bringing on a calm head as he'll only think about a defensive minded player. If we're losing Mata is not exactly an impact player. If we're drawing then I don't expect he'll come on ahead of Rooney and I doubt they'll both be introduced.

Headshot

Get the **** in

Best player on the pitch

rockal

get in Micky

ElChe32

GWAN MICKEY!

jayo26

Great goal from miki but great pass from Ander too.

GSPfan

Backs to the wall for the next hour to try hold out for a one one draw now.

Dwarf.Shortage

Mata and Mhkitarayan have both been "finished at United" as far as good chunks of this thread were concerned at various points over the last 3 months, people need to relax with the drama.

bantee

bantee wrote: »

Either Micky to score first or 2-1 to United. I might do both!

There's 1 bet in anyway!

GSPfan

Rojo and Jones as a solid centre half pairing is something i never thought id see.

jayo26

GSPfan wrote: »

Rojo and Jones as a solid centre half pairing is something i never thought id see.

They do well but they lack leadership when the pressure is on i think Jones and Bailey is a better partnership long term.

gosplan

Minderbinder wrote: »

It's hard to justify Martial being in the team ahead of Mata. Martial would be a better option to come off the bench and Mata's ability to retain possession and help us control the game would be more useful than Martial's pace and power from the start.

It's difficult see a scenario where Mata will come on. If we're winning Jose won't be thinking about bringing on a calm head as he'll only think about a defensive minded player. If we're losing Mata is not exactly an impact player. If we're drawing then I don't expect he'll come on ahead of Rooney and I doubt they'll both be introduced.

Was thinking about this earlier. Great first team but poor squad. I think a lot of the poor conversion rate is that Utd have no impact player. So no late goals and the odd one conceded means draws a-plenty. I mean Ibrahimovic is doing well but you can't rely on him to score 2 a game.

You may see it today where the Utd threat drops off after an hour. That's where you need a pure handful of a striker to stick on.

It's obviously not Jose's fault but I think soon enough Woodward or someone needs to be asked about transfer policy.

beno619

The much maligned Michael Carrick playing well also. Pogba & Martial not quite at it yet.

How Soon Is Now

Please God don't sit back in second half!!

Have great chance of turning a corner here today would be massive result if can win here been better team as well.

GSPfan

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Please God don't sit back in second half!!

Have great chance of turning a corner here today would be massive result if can win here been better team as well.

Prepare yourself for dissappointment. Its almost guaranteed these days that we'll start to nervously sit back until they score.

PhlegmyMoses

gosplan wrote: »

Was thinking about this earlier. Great first team but poor squad. I think a lot of the poor conversion rate is that Utd have no impact player. So no late goals and the odd one conceded means draws a-plenty. I mean Ibrahimovic is doing well but you can't rely on him to score 2 a game.

You may see it today where the Utd threat drops off after an hour. That's where you need a pure handful of a striker to stick on.

It's obviously not Jose's fault but I think soon enough Woodward or someone needs to be asked about transfer policy.

The problem with the striker situation is that Rashford is there and all the talk in the summer was about Mourinho not trusting youth and stifling players like him. Had he brought in Ibra and another he'd have been heavily criticised. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Minderbinder

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

gosplan wrote: »

Was thinking about this earlier. Great first team but poor squad. I think a lot of the poor conversion rate is that Utd have no impact player. So no late goals and the odd one conceded means draws a-plenty. I mean Ibrahimovic is doing well but you can't rely on him to score 2 a game.

You may see it today where the Utd threat drops off after an hour. That's where you need a pure handful of a striker to stick on.

It's obviously not Jose's fault but I think soon enough Woodward or someone needs to be asked about transfer policy.

The problem with the striker situation is that Rashford is there and all the talk in the summer was about Mourinho not trusting youth and stifling players like him. Had he brought in Ibra and another he'd have been heavily criticised. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

But he hasn't done either. Ibra plays almost every minute. I wouldn't say playing Rashford as a workhorse wideman is a huge sign of trust.