Milk Price III

alps

moneyheer wrote: »

Glanbia we're complaining that the protein was too high in liquid milk last year., Their answer was cap protein leval to be paid on or cut price. Seemingly they can't touch the protein in liquid milk by law.

Are you sure about the protein?

Fat is separated from milk and then reconstituted to bring up to 3.6%

Just wondering, if they remove fat at 4.2%, say 42g of fat from the litre of milk and then reintroduce 36g to standardise it, it would have the effect of increasing the percentage of protein in the newly reconstituted litre.

However the packaging states protein is at 3.4%. Is this just a guideline figure, or do they have some way of standardizing the protein too?

moneyheer

That was my understanding of it. i.e. they can't touch protein. It was at a liquid milk meeting. Maybe I'm wrong but that was my take on it.

freedominacup

moneyheer wrote: »

That was my understanding of it. i.e. they can't touch protein. It was at a liquid milk meeting. Maybe I'm wrong but that was my take on it.

I think it's more that they can't get at it. Dispersed throughout the milk.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Lakeland hold price.
https://amp.independent.ie/business/farming/dairy/milk-prices/lakeland-dairies-holds-milk-price-for-august-milk-supplies-37304765.html?__twitter_impression=true

Gman1987

moneyheer wrote: »

That was my understanding of it. i.e. they can't touch protein. It was at a liquid milk meeting. Maybe I'm wrong but that was my take on it.

Can they not use Lactose to standardise like they do in most other manufacturing plant?

Water John

Protein can only be fractioned out by processing eg casein. Cannot simply extract and add back in as you do with fat and minerals.
Lactose is a sugar.

Gman1987

Water John wrote: »

Protein can only be fractioned out by processing eg casein. Cannot simply extract and add back in as you do with fat and minerals.
Lactose is a sugar.

Look it up, milk can be standardised to 3.3% protein and 3.6% fat, maybe they dont do this for liquid milk but it can be done.

whelan2

Glanbia will pay 32cpl for August milk. No Coop support no mention of bonus for first 6 months

whelan2

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Buford T. Justice XIX

Kerry milk price unchanged this month @32c/l


https://www.farmersjournal.ie/kerry-milk-price-unchanged-403614

Mooooo

Dairygold held at 31.5

Buford T. Justice XIX

https://twitter.com/rko2milk/status/1041645895631233024?s=19

mahoney_j

Arrabawn milk price up 0.1 cent to 32.2 ,amounts to about 70 euro for me ,some insult and without checking it’s proably just to keep us a nose in front of one or 2 certain others ....

orm0nd

mahoney_j wrote: »

Arrabawn milk price up 0.1 cent to 32.2 ,amounts to about 70 euro for me ,some insult and without checking it’s proably just to keep us a nose in front of one or 2 certain others ....

what did C.R. predict at the AGM thought there was mention pf 34/35 base

was expecting at least 1c. of +

mahoney_j

orm0nd wrote: »

what did C.R. predict at the AGM thought there was mention pf 34/35 base

was expecting at least 1c. of +

Your correct and likewise was expecting 1 cent ,these drought/market etc bonuses really irritate me .milk price is and should be that

Mooooo

Prob said this before but any coops should not be saying hardship bonus etc. It is different with the plc structures of glanbia and Kerry., but the dairygold arrabawn etc should be just saying what the price is and the coops accounts will tell the rest.

whelan2

Interesting article from icmsa

Buford T. Justice XIX

Intervention stocks of skim now down to 145k tonnes from 286k tonnes at peak.
https://www.farmersjournal.ie/intervention-stocks-almost-halved-after-latest-smp-tender-405266


Also starting twice monthly sales of intervention skim from next month.

Mooooo

May as well do as the kiwis do and offload as much as possible during the off peak period

Gawddawggonnit

Mooooo wrote: »

May as well do as the kiwis do and offload as much as possible during the off peak period

??

I suppose Jackie Really Hay and Dublin Bay Loftus controlled the Government at one stage too...

Off peak in Ireland is not the same as the vast majority of milk production throughout Europe.


Should never have been intervention in the first place...

Buford T. Justice XIX

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

??

I suppose Jackie Really Hay and Dublin Bay Loftus controlled the Government at one stage too...

Off peak in Ireland is not the same as the vast majority of milk production throughout Europe.


Should never have been intervention in the first place...

Arrah, tis grand, dawg.


Only the French stuff left there now:p

mf240

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Arrah, tis grand, dawg.


Only the French stuff left there now:p

That ould French powder has the whole place bloked up.

K.G.

mf240 wrote: »

That ould French powder has the whole place bloked up.

And at least its nitrates compliant.

Gawddawggonnit

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Arrah, tis grand, dawg.


Only the French stuff left there now:p

Ouch.
Harsh there Chief.

In defense of the French Paysans...

Everyone knows that Irish cheese (and wine) is by far the most prestigious in the world.
The French paysans need every tax break/concession and vat rebate/refund, plus all the numerous grants like tams etc etc etc etc, plus intervention to buy their worthless product, just to be able to keep the family farm afloat.
Without the almost infinite handouts/bailouts/government subsidies that the French government make available to the dairy farmers, the Coops wouldn’t be able to make commodity slaves of the paysans and thus become global players.
With the ever helpful government support for destroying and polluting the countryside they’re just about able to compete at an international level for commodity market share.

That is why origin green milk powder sells waaay ahead of origin bleu crappy milk powders.

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MF290

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Ouch.
Harsh there Chief.

In defense of the French Paysans...

Everyone knows that Irish cheese (and wine) is by far the most prestigious in the world.
The French paysans need every tax break/concession and vat rebate/refund, plus all the numerous grants like tams etc etc etc etc, plus intervention to buy their worthless product, just to be able to keep the family farm afloat.
Without the almost infinite handouts/bailouts/government subsidies that the French government make available to the dairy farmers, the Coops wouldn’t be able to make commodity slaves of the paysans and thus become global players.
With the ever helpful government support for destroying and polluting the countryside they’re just about able to compete at an international level for commodity market share.

That is why origin green milk powder sells waaay ahead of origin bleu crappy milk powders.

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Did you get the rose tinted glasses when you emigrated first or did the motherland post them out to you after a couple of years?

Gawddawggonnit

MF290 wrote: »

Did you get the rose tinted glasses when you emigrated first or did the motherland post them out to you after a couple of years?

Those glasses I got from here...:)

Gawddawggonnit

Btw, the milk spot price has been hovering around *35cpl for quite a while now.
Thought ye might like to know...

* + vat.

whelan2

Whats the strathroy liquid milk scheme like, how long does it run for? Also what did they pay for August milk?

alps

Hope this is clear when you enlarge...some interesting data.

RightTurnClyde

whelan2 wrote: »

Whats the strathroy liquid milk scheme like, how long does it run for? Also what did they pay for August milk?

Don't know about liquid, but 33 inc for Aug