Animal Abusers

ScumLord

Walter H Price wrote: »

id side with the cat cat 10 times outta 10 in fact if it was my cat , id pull the trigger myself to ensure its safety ... ive seen random skangers try and kill a kitten i stepped in , an old lady mugged i stepped in abuse a dog stepped in assault my fince stepped in ... ended the same way for all theem. y would i choose some random stranger over somthing i love wouldnt even choose them over a stray tbh

I think that's bravado. A random stranger could be Hillary Clinton, or it could be a disabled child, or even the child's mother. The odds of killing someone who actually deserved it are slim. The majority of the world's population is fairly young, either children or raising children. You'd really run the risk of killing a child or parent over a cat?

Walter H Price

ScumLord wrote: »

I think that's bravado. A random stranger could be Hillary Clinton, or it could be a disabled child, or even the child's mother. The odds of killing someone who actually deserved it are slim. The majority of the world's population is fairly young, either children or raising children. You'd really run the risk of killing a child or parent over a cat?

i would pick my Cats the same as id pick my kids over a Rando regardless y would i choose somone ive no connection to or feeling towords over a creature i rescused and raised from thime it was 5 weeks old that i love to bits ... its a stupid hypothetical but i can gaurentee u id pick the cat ... people who have issues with our kittens are not invited back to our apt incl my OHs sister and her BF , and thats both our view not just mine

petrolcan

Walter H Price wrote: »

Yes tbh i have more tome for animals then most people ... they are living creatures just like us , we are animals no more no less

We are much more evolved.

Bongalongherb

The first thing would be to make it mandatory for them to do a six month course or longer on how to respect the animal kingdom with constant lecturing courses over this period 9 to 5 monday to friday. If they miss a day, then 3 extra days are added on to their course. If they fail to comply, then it will be 6 months prison

petrolcan

Walter H Price wrote: »

, id pull the trigger myself to ensure its safety

This is all I ever did yet the personal insults/threats flew.

Walter H Price

petrolcan wrote: »

This is all I ever did yet the personal insults/threats flew.

ignore list bye bye sad lil troll

ScumLord

Walter H Price wrote: »

i would pick my Cats the same as id pick my kids over a Rando regardless y would i choose somone ive no connection to or feeling towords over a creature i rescused and raised from thime it was 5 weeks old that i love to bits ...
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Empathy. Empathy means being able to understand and share the feelings of another. It doesn't mean "be nice too". You don't seem to be able to empathise with the people that will lose a family member, a provider, a loved one. If you kill the cat the only person that loses out is you and your immediate family. It would be a tiny inconvenience to losing a family member.

Walter H Price

ScumLord wrote: »

Empathy. Empathy means being able to understand and share the feelings of another. It doesn't mean "be nice too". You don't seem to be able to empathise with the people that will lose a family member, a provider, a loved one. If you kill the cat the only person that loses out is you and your immediate family. It would be a tiny inconvenience to losing a family member.

yes obvious i would choose somone else to suffer loss over me , i once broke a company record in a phsycometric test for low empathy score ... its not bravdo id choose my kitten every time over a rando in your pointless hypothetical

petrolcan

Walter H Price wrote: »

ignore list bye bye sad lil troll

I always figured that you didn't want actual discussion.

Toodle pip.

Ragnar Lothbrok

Walter H Price wrote: »

i would pick my Cats the same as id pick my kids over a Rando regardless y would i choose somone ive no connection to or feeling towords over a creature i rescused and raised from thime it was 5 weeks old that i love to bits ... its a stupid hypothetical but i can gaurentee u id pick the cat ... people who have issues with our kittens are not invited back to our apt incl my OHs sister and her BF , and thats both our view not just mine

This is just outrageous.

I love my cat too. I am an animal-lover in general, and don't even eat them. Would I choose to kill my cat or some child I didn't know? I don't even have to think about it, my poor cat Shadow would be gone in an instant.

There's something seriously wrong with a person that would rather see a child (or any human) be killed in place of a cat/dog.

Are you seriously saying you'd rather murder my child than kill a cat?????? :mad:

petrolcan

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

Are you seriously saying you'd rather murder my child than kill a cat?????? :mad:

That's certainly how I would read it.

Galwayguy35

Had to listen to a fella I once worked with laughing about how he tied cats to a tree and then drove off ripping them in half, to my shame I was afraid to say what I thought of him but I think the punishment for animal cruelty is way too lenient in this country.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Walter H Price wrote: »

if you find killing for the craic fun i think youl find you have the issue but lets not get personal here ... we are just animals thats undeniable

The poster you quoted didn't say anything about killing for the craic.

Walter H Price wrote: »

id side with the cat cat 10 times outta 10 in fact if it was my cat , id pull the trigger myself to ensure its safety ... ive seen random skangers try and kill a kitten i stepped in , an old lady mugged i stepped in abuse a dog stepped in assault my fince stepped in ... ended the same way for all theem. y would i choose some random stranger over somthing i love wouldnt even choose them over a stray tbh

You may have a point, but it's really hard to see with the lack of punctuation. You stepped in a kitten? How does that even work?

Walter H Price wrote: »

i would pick my Cats the same as id pick my kids over a Rando regardless y would i choose somone ive no connection to or feeling towords over a creature i rescused and raised from thime it was 5 weeks old that i love to bits ... its a stupid hypothetical but i can gaurentee u id pick the cat ... people who have issues with our kittens are not invited back to our apt incl my OHs sister and her BF , and thats both our view not just mine

So what issues did your OHs sister and her BF have with your kittens? What could they have possible done to your pets that you don't want them back in your apartment?

PS, are you typing with your face per chance?

Walter H Price

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

This is just outrageous.

I love my cat too. I am an animal-lover in general, and don't even eat them. Would I choose to kill my cat or some child I didn't know? I don't even have to think about it, my poor cat Shadow would be gone in an instant.

There's something seriously wrong with a person that would rather see a child (or any human) be killed in place of a cat/dog.

Are you seriously saying you'd rather murder my child than kill a cat?????? :mad:

its a rediculos hypothetical but yeh if it was ur kid or my kittens im pickin my kittens every time i dont know u or ur kid y would i kill somthing i love for u or them ... i stand by my first point though stupid hypothetical

petrolcan

Walter H Price wrote: »

its a rediculos hypothetical but yeh if it was ur kid or my kittens im pickin my kittens every time i dont know u or ur kid y would i kill somthing i love for u or them ... i stand by my first point though stupid hypothetical

Wow!

Walter H Price

Avery Sour Cranberry wrote: »

The poster you quoted didn't say anything about killing for the craic.



You may have a point, but it's really hard to see with the lack of punctuation. You stepped in a kitten? How does that even work?




So what issues did your OHs sister and her BF have with your kittens? What could they have possible done to your pets that you don't want them back in your apartment?

PS, are you typing with your face per chance?

i dont see why thts relevent , he hates cats we dont shut them out for anyone he was being a drama queen , threw a coin at one to gt him to leve hom alone (he missed) no surprising hes not the sportyest manliest type , there was a row n they were sent on their merry way and wont be welcome bak , hes a knob anyway ... excuse the punctuation and spelling not typing with my face just dyslexic

Walter H Price

petrolcan wrote: »

Wow!

obvious call for me not even 10 seconds thought

petrolcan

Walter H Price wrote: »

obvious call for me not even 10 seconds thought

Hang on, I thought I was in your ignore list?

Walter H Price

petrolcan wrote: »

Hang on, I thought I was in your ignore list?

so did i guess i didnt work on the phone i'll boot up the Mac and sort tht now

HellSquirrel

ScumLord wrote: »

There's no need to resort to insults. It doesn't help your argument look any better.

It's a theory, but I still don't think it would have all that much effect. Like I said cats aren't going to be making much of a dent in rat populations. Rats are fairly large rodents. they'll put up a good fight to a cat. It would be pretty risky for a cat to focus on rats over mice and birds. How many rats would a cat kill anyway, one a day, maximum. Once it's feed it has no incentive to continue killing. A dog breed to do it however is going to kill as many rats as it can because it's not doing it for food. At any rate the cat or dog isn't going to do much about the fleas that carry the disease. It's probably only going to end up being a carrier itself and bring the fleas directly back to people.

Sanitation was the only cure to the black death.

That's something I've read about too, although I can't give you a link, it was a book on the history of the plague. I have a notion it was called Plague, but I can't recall now. The idea is that cats were blamed for spreading the plague, and people panicked. Bearing in mind that the plague was absolutely terrifying, it's not surprising that there was a mass culling of cats. If it had gone slightly differently, there might have been a culling of "witches" after a few months of it such was the desperation.

As we know now, it wasn't cats (or rats) that spread the plague, but rather the fleas on the rats. The rat population exploded within the city of London in particular and the plague ran rampant.

As far as I know, it's a fairly widely accepted theory, although correlation/causation and all that. Cats would likely not have stopped the plague, but culling so many of them certainly didn't help the situation.

CaptainInsano

Ragnar Lothbrok wrote: »

This is just outrageous.

I love my cat too. I am an animal-lover in general, and don't even eat them. Would I choose to kill my cat or some child I didn't know? I don't even have to think about it, my poor cat Shadow would be gone in an instant.

There's something seriously wrong with a person that would rather see a child (or any human) be killed in place of a cat/dog.

Are you seriously saying you'd rather murder my child than kill a cat?????? :mad:

Looks like you'll have to avoid the scenario where a maniac kidnaps your child and his cat forcing the decision then.

The flying mouse

The posters saying they would put bullets in people's heads etc etc this demonstrates that these commentators hold the same disrespect and contempt for life as the animal abusers hold - but against Humans.

Basically, these people are as "sick" as the people committing the abuse. Either you respect life, Human and Non-Human, or you don't.

petrolcan

Walter H Price wrote: »

so did i guess i didnt work on the phone i'll boot up the Mac and sort tht now

Maybe I'll escape again!

osarusan

Tremendous amount of shyte being talked in here.

GreenFolder2

petrolcan wrote: »

We are much more evolved.

We're not actually much 'more' evolved. We're equally evolved but with different adaptions that give us different specialisations.

Try jumping off a tree and flying and you'll find out how evolved a bird is!

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Walter H Price wrote: »

its a rediculos hypothetical but yeh if it was ur kid or my kittens im pickin my kittens every time i dont know u or ur kid y would i kill somthing i love for u or them ... i stand by my first point though stupid hypothetical

It is ridiculous, but in some countries it's also a crime. I don't mean to offend you, but your comments are very naive and out of touch with reality. It's not normal to chose the life of an animal over that of a human. You can still love your pets very much.

Hans Bricks

"Would you rather execute the children of Boards posters in cold blood or save your beloved Mr.Wiggles ?"

I love how ridiculously loaded these scenarios and questions are becoming. Once again this type of thread avoids the real issue of appropriate punishment for heinous animal abusers and focuses on placating the pedantic, po faced, sneering arseholes who cannot compute equal empathy for other defenceless living things.

I'd like to see the same sentence passed down as if it were a human victim. We can take it a step at a time with household pets, livestock, any kind of common mammal most exposed or susceptible to human interaction & by extension cruelty. Where do you stop or draw the line ? ... I honestly don't know.

dodderangler

Walter H Price wrote: »

if you find killing for the craic fun i think youl find you have the issue but lets not get personal here ... we are just animals thats undeniable

I kill and eat my food. I'm not killing and leaving them there. The fun part is getting out and hunting. I'm not sitting in a tree and just shooting anything. Your views on hunting is that of a typical vegan

HellSquirrel

I don't have any issue with people killing animals for food, but I don't like blood sports - I would like to see fox hunting banned (or maybe it has been by now, I know there was some talk about it a few years back). I would never intentionally hurt an animal, bar a mozzie. I do kill mosquitoes with extreme prejudice (I react badly to the little bastards and they seem to love the taste of my blood). I'm calling self-defense on that one!

While I have no issue with people who like hunting doing it and eating their catch, I'd need to be in fairly serious straits before doing it myself. Like post-apocalyptic necessity scenario! I do eat meat, and sure, call me a hypocrite if you like, but the distance between a steak on my plate and actually shooting a rabbit does make a difference for me.

I'm more of a cat person than a dog person, but given the loyalty and love that dogs show humans, something that seems to be part of their general character after millennia of breeding, there's something particularly heinous about betraying that trust by being cruel to a dog.

Mind you, I include horrendous breeding habits for the sake of arbitrary looks in dogs as abusive too. Breeding a dog for spina bifida because there's a fad for a ridge on a Rhodesian Ridgeback dog is cruel. Breeding King Charles spaniels for skulls too small for their brains, leading to dogs that can go mad from the pain and the pressure is horrific. And don't get me started on what idiots do with German Shepherds.

HellSquirrel

I don't have any issue with people killing animals for food, but I don't like blood sports - I would like to see fox hunting banned (or maybe it has been by now, I know there was some talk about it a few years back). I would never intentionally hurt an animal, bar a mozzie. I do kill mosquitoes with extreme prejudice (I react badly to the little bastards and they seem to love the taste of my blood). I'm calling self-defense on that one!

While I have no issue with people who like hunting doing it and eating their catch, I'd need to be in fairly serious straits before doing it myself. Like post-apocalyptic necessity scenario! I do eat meat, and sure, call me a hypocrite if you like, but the distance between a steak on my plate and actually shooting a rabbit does make a difference for me.

I'm more of a cat person than a dog person, but given the loyalty and love that dogs show humans, something that seems to be part of their general character after millennia of breeding, there's something particularly heinous about betraying that trust by being cruel to a dog.

Mind you, I include horrendous breeding habits for the sake of arbitrary looks in dogs as abusive too. Breeding a dog for spina bifida because there's a fad for a ridge on a Rhodesian Ridgeback dog is cruel. Breeding King Charles spaniels for skulls too small for their brains, leading to dogs that can go mad from the pain and the pressure is horrific. And don't get me started on what idiots do with German Shepherds.