Werewolf V - Election Fever - GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS

crosstownk

This might be a silly question but there's nothing in the OP stating that votes will be revealed after lynch. Can WWGM confirm this? Or is this a potential twist?

tritium

Just to note obviously if we do that infernce step then the silent free vote becomes less useful as an option - id hope in the time to first lynch we can find some initial information to guide the village

WerewolfGM

Votes will be revealed after a lynch.

tritium

crosstownk wrote: »

This might be a silly question but there's nothing in the OP stating that votes will be revealed after lynch. Can WWGM confirm this? Or is this a potential twist?

Actually a good point. Given hillarys possible 2 votes later on its not clear how this will be handled

tritium

Another though on that- with hillary we have an extra seer peek. Could be very useful, especially if a wolf is peeked, but on thebother hand revealing is would lose the sherrif ability for the village if hillary is munched.

Mollyb60

1. Lynch race - run 2/3 people for voting based on suspicions given by the other
villagers - this is the most simple way of doing it, in past games it doesn't
work at the start but provides data towards the end of the game this option is
more for the long run without instant results

This is the usual way we've been going with votes. Which, while it worked sometimes, I think is useless at the start. You're basically picking 2 random people and having them fight it out. If they're 2 villagers you're just wasting time. Bad guys will have an easy time just picking random sides and it will provide no concrete information for later in the game.

2. Vote for who you think is a wolf without telling the village - leaves the
Wolf's uncertain on how to approach lynching which could provide mistakes and
tells, dangerous from a villagers point of view as the village could lynch a
roled player on their team without given them the chance to convince the village
of their innocence

Secret voting I don't think is a goer. Especially this early. With no one being able to directly address the reasons people are giving for voting for them, you're just shooting fish in a barrel. Reasons have to be given before the lynch, otherwise the wolves can just vote for anyone.

3. Each player interviews each other with a bunch of general questions or
questioning posts they have made to find any tells or mistakes - could be hard
to pull off with some players not being as active but could also lead to
valuable information by getting information from posters that would not be there
without this method

This actually isn't a bad idea for later in the game. However I think at this point there's no evidence from anyone that we can go on. None of us have Tigger's powers of insight so unless everyone answered all the questions we'd still be at a loss. We could get everyone to answer questions and those who don't respond could be put up for lynch? You're starting to target low posters again though which I think is unfair.

cdaly_

tritium wrote: »

Another though on that- with hillary we have an extra seer peek. Could be very useful, especially if a wolf is peeked, but on thebother hand revealing is would lose the sherrif ability for the village if hillary is munched.

The Rules wrote:

1 x Hillary Clinton - Hillary is working on her own. But she is part of the village team. She will get one peek in the hope of finding an ally in the village.

So Hillary gets only one peek. If she finds an ally, do they get a back room for plotting or does she just know somebody will argue on her behalf in a lynch race?

AnLachaCorcra

For what it's worth I think having a free vote at the start is the way to go, with everybody explaining their pick.

Later on when the village might realistically have somethin to go on we can worry about racing the likely candidates.

cdaly_

cdaly_ wrote: »

So Hillary gets only one peek. If she finds an ally, do they get a back room for plotting or does she just know somebody will argue on her behalf in a lynch race?

She must get something like a back room or she has no way of identifying herself to an ally.

Or is this just an opportunity for her to find something out and the 'ally' thing is a blind?

tritium

cdaly_ wrote: »

So Hillary gets only one peek. If she finds an ally, do they get a back room for plotting or does she just know somebody will argue on her behalf in a lynch race?

Good question. Id be inclined not to look for mods to clarify yet though. The less certainty the wolves have the better.

WerewolfGM

tritium wrote: »

Actually a good point. Given hillarys possible 2 votes later on its not clear how this will be handled

Don't worry, we have this covered if and when it happens.

Mollyb60

AnLachaCorcra wrote: »

For what it's worth I think having a free vote at the start is the way to go, with everybody explaining their pick.

Later on when the village might realistically have somethin to go on we can worry about racing the likely candidates.

I have taught you well grasshopper (please don't be evil!)

crosstownk

tritium wrote: »

Id be inclined not to look for mods to clarify yet though.

Agreed. We don't need to know that right now.

Guffy

Can see today being a very slow day with no real action until tomorrow night

y0ssar1an22

"An unknown Mystic was found who said they specialised in finding those who were infected by Lycanthropy. The gene that turned normal appearing villagers into blood sucking Werewolves at night."

quick question for mods...is this referring to the vigilante/lee harvey or the seer? or someone else?

Uriel.

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

"An unknown Mystic was found who said they specialised in finding those who were infected by Lycanthropy. The gene that turned normal appearing villagers into blood sucking Werewolves at night."

quick question for mods...is this referring to the vigilante/lee harvey or the seer? or someone else?

seer I'd say.

Barney92

Uriel. wrote: »

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

"An unknown Mystic was found who said they specialised in finding those who were infected by Lycanthropy. The gene that turned normal appearing villagers into blood sucking Werewolves at night."

quick question for mods...is this referring to the vigilante/lee harvey or the seer? or someone else?

seer I'd say.

Yeah, I'd agree here. Almost certainly the seer.
I'm also on the free vote side for the start at least. I don't mind if we do reasoning before or after the lynch, but we need to get some reason from each person, even if it is something flimsy.

sullivlo

crosstownk 11
tritium 8
cdaly_ 8
Mollyb60 6
gufc21 6
Uriel. 5
y0ssar1an22 5
suffering golfer 4
andy125 4
Nopeare 3
Jayop 3
The_Valeyard 3
mahamageehad 1
Barney92 1
cee_jay 1
AnLachaCorcra 1
sullivlo 1

Yet to post:
degrassinoel
MicksJaguar
Stoogie
Grumpylumpy
Paddy Cow

Just keeping myself entertained :pac:

Anything else to discuss? Can't even think about tasks because there's not enough posts (despite crosstownks best efforts - taking over from Tigger?) to really think about that.

Any craic? Any weekend plans?

Mollyb60

Fantastic. Just realised the first lynch is Saturday night when me and Mr Molly will be at the Ireland vs Canada game in Dublin. We'll have to get our votes in early before we leave for the match.

cee_jay

cdaly_ wrote: »

She must get something like a back room or she has no way of identifying herself to an ally.

Or is this just an opportunity for her to find something out and the 'ally' thing is a blind?

Does the ally find out who Hilary is? Or is it Hilary just knows that player is a villager?

Mollyb60

Was just thinking there, has a bad guy EVER been the first lynch? I actually think I might be the only one from the last game. God damn you Tigger!!!

cee_jay

I'm just catching up on the thread - was working down the country earlier today, so only just reached the office now.

So we have until 9pm tomorrow evening to come to a consensus on how to deal with the first vote? I would vote for lynch race. There is no point going for those with low post counts - if someone hasn't posted at all, they might just get mod killed anyway.

sullivlo

cee_jay wrote: »

I'm just catching up on the thread - was working down the country earlier today, so only just reached the office now.

So we have until 9pm tomorrow evening to come to a consensus on how to deal with the first vote? I would vote for lynch race. There is no point going for those with low post counts - if someone hasn't posted at all, they might just get mod killed anyway.

Yeah, I'm just bored, hence listing the posters.

Uriel.

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Fantastic. Just realised the first lynch is Saturday night when me and Mr Molly will be at the Ireland vs Canada game in Dublin. We'll have to get our votes in early before we leave for the match.

You guys are going to have to be extra careful not to give something away to each other, just in case one of you has a role/on opposing teams...

WerewolfGM

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

"An unknown Mystic was found who said they specialised in finding those who were infected by Lycanthropy. The gene that turned normal appearing villagers into blood sucking Werewolves at night."

quick question for mods...is this referring to the vigilante/lee harvey or the seer? or someone else?

It is the Seer, having abilities to "discover" roles

Mollyb60

Uriel. wrote: »

Mollyb60 wrote: »

Fantastic. Just realised the first lynch is Saturday night when me and Mr Molly will be at the Ireland vs Canada game in Dublin. We'll have to get our votes in early before we leave for the match.

You guys are going to have to be extra careful not to give something away to each other, just in case one of you has a role/on opposing teams...

You shoulda seen us on the bus into work this morning! Holding our phones away from each other so we couldn't peek at the other's PM. We've already discussed how to sit on the couch so we won't oversee each other's screens. So much logistics! I want this to work though so there'll be no cheating.

andy125

do we need a slow start or can we start the game proper tonight with a lynch if everyone has posted and understands before 9?

cee_jay

andy125 wrote: »

do we need a slow start or can we start the game proper tonight with a lynch if everyone has posted and understands before 9?

If this happens can it be decided shortly please?
Meeting friends at 5:30 for dinner, so won't be able to post after 5pm until much later tonight.

WerewolfGM

andy125 wrote: »

do we need a slow start or can we start the game proper tonight with a lynch if everyone has posted and understands before 9?

Not everyone has posted. We need the 5 noobs to be comfortable with the game.

sullivlo

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

very good morning (or afternoon now?)mr* valeyard. i am well, are you well?

*apologies if its a mrs

Are you still awaiting confirmation of Vales gender? :pac: