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Werewolf V - Election Fever - GAME OVER - VILLAGE WINS

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    OK I never played a game that started with a Lynch before so that's something new. No harm anyway, but it will be a shot in the dark unless someone slips up badly or we spot the Trump challenge.

    One thing we really need to avoid is a huge bandwagon on one person for a stupid reason. It's crazy and almost certainly allows the wolves to hide as the chances of getting that lucky on turn 1 are pretty much nil.

    Personally I'd be in favour of a hidden vote that everyone says nothing and we make our own choice then justify it after the kill. Wolves hate that **** because they panic if they don't know if they're at risk and won't chance a sneaky vote on another wolf.

    The only risk is killing a pv but at this stage it's unlikely.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,072 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    sullivlo wrote: »
    Are you still awaiting confirmation of Vales gender? :pac:

    no i am not, thank you very much. mr vale very kindly cleared that up for me.

    he's a male btw


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,072 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    another query for the mods...."There will be some twists tied into the number 5 in the game"

    can you guys shed any sort of light on this? or anyone have any ideas on what it means?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,072 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    another query for the mods...."There will be some twists tied into the number 5 in the game"

    can you guys shed any sort of light on this? or anyone have any ideas on what it means?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    sullivlo wrote: »
    despite crosstownks best efforts - taking over from Tigger?

    Any craic? Any weekend plans?

    I don't think I'll ever posses Tiggers ability to spot roles :o

    I'll have a few pints tonight. No other weekend plans after that.

    On the blind/secret vote thing. I'm up for it simply because I don't think we've done it before and as Jayop said, it won't be of any benefit to the wolves.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    Jayop's blind voting makes sense when put like that. What happens if there is a draw in the lynch vote?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    cee_jay wrote: »
    Jayop's blind voting makes sense when put like that. What happens if there is a draw in the lynch vote?

    Depends on the mod, nothing in the OP about it. When I run games I always have the last vote as the tie breaker but others do the first vote and in some games they even run off the people who are tied in a fresh vote against each other.

    Could probably do with that being clarified.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    crosstownk wrote: »

    On the blind/secret vote thing. I'm up for it simply because I don't think we've done it before and as Jayop said, it won't be of any benefit to the wolves.
    I concur with jayop and cross, especially given the lynch precedes the first munch.

    As it stands so far, I'd be just picking a name out of hat anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    WerewolfGM wrote: »
    In the event of a tie in the lynch voting, voting will reopen for another 30 minutes to see if a decision can be reached. If after 30 minutes there is still no outright winner, then the last vote received will be the tie breaker



    Tut, tut!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    cee_jay wrote: »
    Jayop's blind voting makes sense when put like that. What happens if there is a draw in the lynch vote?
    Jayop wrote: »
    Depends on the mod, nothing in the OP about it. When I run games I always have the last vote as the tie breaker but others do the first vote and in some games they even run off the people who are tied in a fresh vote against each other.

    Could probably do with that being clarified.

    Tie Breaker Rules

    In the event of a tie in the lynch voting, voting will reopen for another 30 minutes to see if a decision can be reached. If after 30 minutes there is still no outright winner, then the last vote received will be the tie breaker


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Uriel. wrote: »
    I concur with jayop and cross, especially given the lynch precedes the first munch.

    As it stands so far, I'd be just picking a name out of hat anyway.

    Nah, I think that everyone should have to give a reason after the lynch as to why they voted for a person. That will give us some evidence to work with later in the game. People just saying they choose at random tells us nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Uriel. wrote: »
    Tie Breaker Rules

    lol cheers! I read the first few rules there quickly and assumed the tie-breaker rule if there was one would be next to the rules on the lynch vote timing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    I think the blind vote thing tied in with the tie breaker rules could be good.

    If there are a few people with the same number of votes we've got a 30 minute window to discuss the "shortlist" and why those people were pinged as suspicious and decide from there as to who to bring to the gallows


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    And excel spreadsheet set up to track this game. Luckily it's not as complex as the last one!
    Couple of questions on the rules/roles though.

    In the last game, the seer only got told if someone was good or evil. The intro says
    1 x Seer - The seer is the leader of the village. They have the ability to peek one player every night, and they will be told the role of the peeked player.

    Does this mean they get told the actual role this time?

    Lee Harvey Oswald
    Lee Harvey Oswald/Vigilante gets 2 bullets. Their task is to take out Donald Trump, they may choose at whatever time they wish their victim to die - it does not have to be during the nighttime phase. The Vigilante may not disclose their identity on thread before he successfully kills Trump. If the Vigilante shoots twice and misses Trump both times their identity will be revealed putting them in jeopardy.

    Who does their identity get revealed to? The whole village or just the werewolves?
    I don't know if that would put them in jeopardy though? If they have used their 2 bullets already, the wolves now know who they are, and they are no longer an imminent danger to them? And they are a known quantity to the village too...


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭cee_jay


    And excel spreadsheet set up to track this game. Luckily it's not as complex as the last one!
    Couple of questions on the rules/roles though.

    In the last game, the seer only got told if someone was good or evil. The intro says
    1 x Seer - The seer is the leader of the village. They have the ability to peek one player every night, and they will be told the role of the peeked player.

    Does this mean they get told the actual role this time?

    Lee Harvey Oswald
    Lee Harvey Oswald/Vigilante gets 2 bullets. Their task is to take out Donald Trump, they may choose at whatever time they wish their victim to die - it does not have to be during the nighttime phase. The Vigilante may not disclose their identity on thread before he successfully kills Trump. If the Vigilante shoots twice and misses Trump both times their identity will be revealed putting them in jeopardy.

    Who does their identity get revealed to? The whole village or just the werewolves?
    I don't know if that would put them in jeopardy though? If they have used their 2 bullets already, the wolves now know who they are, and they are no longer an imminent danger to them? And they are a known quantity to the village too...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    Jayop wrote: »
    OK I never played a game that started with a Lynch before so that's something new. No harm anyway, but it will be a shot in the dark unless someone slips up badly or we spot the Trump challenge.

    One thing we really need to avoid is a huge bandwagon on one person for a stupid reason. It's crazy and almost certainly allows the wolves to hide as the chances of getting that lucky on turn 1 are pretty much nil.

    Personally I'd be in favour of a hidden vote that everyone says nothing and we make our own choice then justify it after the kill. Wolves hate that **** because they panic if they don't know if they're at risk and won't chance a sneaky vote on another wolf.

    The only risk is killing a pv but at this stage it's unlikely.

    There is no difference at all having a lynch first. There has been deaths, just not live player ones. I don't get what the problem is. I have seen about 45 games + played this way with the first action being a lynch.
    another query for the mods...."There will be some twists tied into the number 5 in the game"

    can you guys shed any sort of light on this? or anyone have any ideas on what it means?

    You will be made aware of what is happening once the triggers have been set off


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    Jayop wrote: »
    Nah, I think that everyone should have to give a reason after the lynch as to why they voted for a person. That will give us some evidence to work with later in the game. People just saying they choose at random tells us nothing.

    No, No I fully agree, I am just saying that at this moment in time I have next to zilch in terms of suspicion... but it's a long way to the lynch unless things get sped up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,863 ✭✭✭✭crosstownk


    Jayop wrote: »
    Nah, I think that everyone should have to give a reason after the lynch as to why they voted for a person. That will give us some evidence to work with later in the game. People just saying they choose at random tells us nothing.

    But picking a name out of a hat might be the only reason I (and others) may have.

    Either that or a low/zero poster. There isn't a shred of evidence against anyone at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    WerewolfGM wrote: »
    There is no difference at all having a lynch first. There has been deaths, just not live player ones. I don't get what the problem is. I have seen about 45 games + played this way with the first action being a lynch.



    You will be made aware of what is happening once the triggers have been set off

    I have no problem with it at all, it's your game and your rules!!

    I was just saying that I've never seen it done this way before as the motivation for the first lynch is as revenge for the slaughter and trying to figure out who would have killed the person slaughtered is a good clue to use to pick the lynch target.

    I'm cool for school to do it your way though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    WerewolfGM wrote: »
    There is no difference at all having a lynch first. There has been deaths, just not live player ones. I don't get what the problem is. I have seen about 45 games + played this way with the first action being a lynch.



    You will be made aware of what is happening once the triggers have been set off

    jaysus... the GM is gonna release Tigs into the game at some point to fúck sh1t up :P


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    cee_jay wrote: »
    And excel spreadsheet set up to track this game. Luckily it's not as complex as the last one!
    Couple of questions on the rules/roles though.

    In the last game, the seer only got told if someone was good or evil. The intro says



    Does this mean they get told the actual role this time?

    Lee Harvey Oswald



    Who does their identity get revealed to? The whole village or just the werewolves?
    I don't know if that would put them in jeopardy though? If they have used their 2 bullets already, the wolves now know who they are, and they are no longer an imminent danger to them? And they are a known quantity to the village too...


    The role of the person the seer peeks is told to them. You will also find out the roles of the dead as it happens.

    I will leave the second one for you guys to work out :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    crosstownk wrote: »
    There isn't a shred of evidence against anyone at the moment.

    I dunno that WerewolfGM creature is looking a bit suss to me, seems to know a lot about the roles....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,228 ✭✭✭WerewolfGM


    Jayop wrote: »
    I have no problem with it at all, it's your game and your rules!!

    I was just saying that I've never seen it done this way before as the motivation for the first lynch is as revenge for the slaughter and trying to figure out who would have killed the person slaughtered is a good clue to use to pick the lynch target.

    I'm cool for school to do it your way though!


    geez which party did you vote for? was it not bad enough that the POTUS was killed and Bernie Saunders? what will it take for you to feel you need to avenge folk ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    crosstownk wrote: »
    But picking a name out of a hat might be the only reason I (and others) may have.

    Either that or a low/zero poster. There isn't a shred of evidence against anyone at the moment.

    You'll have about 36 hours of posting so surely everyone will be able to come up with something better than picking someone at random. A low poster is a reason, not a great one but better than picking someone from a hat.

    Surely someone will do something you think could be a task, someone will behave different to previous games, someone will do something in the day and a half leading to the lynch to give you a tiny reason.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Uriel. wrote: »
    No, No I fully agree, I am just saying that at this moment in time I have next to zilch in terms of suspicion... but it's a long way to the lynch unless things get sped up.

    But but, it'll be Saturday. Everyone has a late lynch on a saturday...



    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    WerewolfGM wrote: »
    The role of the person the seer peeks is told to them. You will also find out the roles of the dead as it happens.

    I will leave the second one for you guys to work out :)

    And I also hadn't noticed there was no priest in the game. That makes it a bit easier for us then.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,443 ✭✭✭tritium


    WerewolfGM wrote: »

    You will be made aware of what is happening once the triggers have been set off

    We all know what that means


    POWERPLAY!!!!!!!



    Woop woop woop!!!!

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    tritium wrote: »
    We all know what that means


    POWERPLAY!!!!!!!



    Woop woop woop!!!!

    :pac:

    Lynch me now! :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Barney92


    Well even if Lee is only revealed to Trump/wolves, they should come out to us. There's not much point in the wolves having access to info we don't have. Obviously they'd need to outline the reasons for killing who they did.

    I think that they'd be revealed to everyone anyway, that was how I read it the first time.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,617 ✭✭✭Mollyb60


    crosstownk wrote: »
    Jayop wrote: »
    Nah, I think that everyone should have to give a reason after the lynch as to why they voted for a person. That will give us some evidence to work with later in the game. People just saying they choose at random tells us nothing.

    But picking a name out of a hat might be the only reason I (and others) may have.

    Either that or a low/zero poster. There isn't a shred of evidence against anyone at the moment.
    Or is there and Jay has spotted it? All hail Jayop! The New Tigger!!! Lol :D


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