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President 'The Donald' Trump and Surprising Consequences - Mod warning in OP

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    #3962
    B_Wayne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    The rallies of which the Democrats have fully been behind and are benefiting from have personalities that have spoken about the President being assassinated. The President receives a lot of death threats on a good day it comes with the job. This on the other hand goes far overboard. Congressional Democrats have lost the plot completely. By going after Trump and continuing with this notion that he is not their President they are throwing open the doors to extremism entering the party if extremists have not already been allowed into the party.

    Your argument "Not supporting Trump means you want him killed", that's a terrible argument. There are very legitimate reasons to not support Trump. You just ignore them because you've spent your time worshiping him regardless of what he says or does. Imagine if you were as passionate about his obsession with demeaning any of his critics or anyone that disagrees with him. Be it the judiciary or the press. What Trump does is fine but criticising him for his actions is terrible.


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    #3963
    KingBrian2
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    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Which personalities and which rallies?

    Your being very inquisitive. Will this be on the morning bulletin tomorrow? During the inauguration death threats appeared online on the walls during the election and shouts from angry rioters.


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    #3964
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    B_Wayne wrote: »
    Your argument "Not supporting Trump means you want him killed", that's a terrible argument. There are very legitimate reasons to not support Trump. You just ignore them because you've spent your time worshiping him regardless of what he says or does. Imagine if you were as passionate about his obsession with demeaning any of his critics or anyone that disagrees with him. Be it the judiciary or the press. What Trump does is fine but criticising him for his actions is terrible.

    Your picking and choosing what i said to make an easy attack. I was talking about a specific point it is impossible for Trump to talk to people who cannot handle the result he'll continue to talk to his own crowd as the Democrats are too busy keeping the mob under control.


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    #3965
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your being very inquisitive. Will this be on the morning bulletin tomorrow? During the inauguration death threats appeared online on the walls during the election and shouts from angry rioters.

    Seemingly you can't provide any links for the narrative you are trying to set.


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    #3966
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,970 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your picking and choosing what i said to make an easy attack. I was talking about a specific point it is impossible for Trump to talk to people who cannot handle the result he'll continue to talk to his own crowd as the Democrats are too busy keeping the mob under control.

    Where is he going to find time to solve the unrest on the hill in the republican party. Solely due to him going off range of late.


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    #3967
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Might be better not to mention taxes.

    I'm pretty confident the IRS audits Trump on a regular basis and makes sure he pays his taxes.


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    #3968
    B_Wayne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your picking and choosing what i said to make an easy attack. I was talking about a specific point it is impossible for Trump to talk to people who cannot handle the result he'll continue to talk to his own crowd as the Democrats are too busy keeping the mob under control.

    Erm, he can't handle the result. He's a month into his term and has repeatedly lied, claimed voter fraud was what led to the popular vote. When Trump lies, his supporters explain it away. His behaviour is not that of a president, it's that of a hurt narcissist.


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    #3969
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,749 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    There was a time when 'fake news' which has been around forever, was known as propaganda, or a diversion tactic.


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    #3970
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Amerika wrote: »
    I'm pretty confident the IRS audits Trump on a regular basis and makes sure he pays his taxes.

    And hasn't made them public for twenty years because?


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    #3971
    Manic Moran
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Looks like McMaster has been tapped to take Flynn's old spot.

    Army personnel I've spoken to are in two minds on the choice. He is considered to be one of the Army's best minds, both in conventional and counter-insurgency warfare, but he's still in the Army. By taking him and plonking him in the NSA position, he's no longer as able to affect the course of the Army in the manner that he could by still being in his Army position.


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    #3972
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,970 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    And hasn't made them public for twenty years because?

    I'd imagine because he hasn't got alot of money and owes millions abroad.


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    #3973
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Seemingly you can't provide any links for the narrative you are trying to set.

    I'm answering that point that is raised and raised again and again that Trump is only talking to his core supporters. The Democrats have lost control of their own party. Liberals who preach hatred and violence are given a open platform and the voices of reason that once were there Bernie, Obama and Clinton are gone. This is down to the Democratic voters switching allegiance to the GOP and the new Liberals keep on about the result IMO.


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    #3974
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Your being very inquisitive. Will this be on the morning bulletin tomorrow? During the inauguration death threats appeared online on the walls during the election and shouts from angry rioters.

    Yeah but that doesn't really support your claim.


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    #3975
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    RobertKK wrote: »
    There was a time when 'fake news' which has been around forever, was known as propaganda, or a diversion tactic.

    Still is.


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    #3976
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    listermint wrote: »
    I'd imagine because he hasn't got alot of money and owes millions abroad.

    I'd imagine you're right.


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    #3977
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,970 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    I'm answering that point that is raised and raised again and again that Trump is only talking to his core supporters. The Democrats have lost control of their own party. Liberals who preach hatred and violence are given a open platform and the voices of reason that once were there Bernie, Obama and Clinton are gone. This is down to the Democratic voters switching allegiance to the GOP and the new Liberals keep on about the result IMO.

    Theres not democrats switching votes.

    And trump has completely lost the soft votes he had rerun it tomorrow and he'd lose.

    But you can't go back only forward.he will be ousted this year mark it down.


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    #3978
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Yeah but that doesn't really support your claim.

    What that liberals in the DNC have called on the President to be assassinated. You go google it.


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    #3979
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    No. It isn't. It's the president and his ragtag administration who keep harping on and on about fake news, trying to discredit CNN and other media orgs so their core supports only listen to them.
    How soon we forget? The biggest fake news story from 2016 revolved around "I never received nor sent any material that was marked classified." The mainstream media went to great lengths defended Hillary Clinton over the allegation, and when to great lengths to make little of the scandal and not investigate her, as it could have derailed her campaign.


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    #3980
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    What that liberals in the DNC have called on the President to be assassinated. You go google it.

    No. It's your claim. You back it up.


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    #3981
    KingBrian2
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    listermint wrote: »
    Theres not democrats switching votes.

    And trump has completely lost the soft votes he had rerun it tomorrow and he'd lose.

    But you can't go back only forward.he will be ousted this year mark it down.

    He is president losing votes come part and parcel Obama lost a lot of appeal from many of his voters. Democrats have not got over the disastrous result they received and the GOP is hurting also he delivered a massive hammer blow against the est much like Obama did when he campaigned and got into office.


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    #3982
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    And hasn't made them public for twenty years because?
    Because it isn't a requirement?


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    #3983
    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,970 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    He is president losing votes come part and parcel Obama lost a lot of appeal from many of his voters. Democrats have not got over the disastrous result they received and the GOP is hurting also he delivered a massive hammer blow against the est much like Obama did when he campaigned and got into office.

    He has lost the entire soft votes in 2 weeks.


    That's unprecedented.


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    #3984
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    He is president losing votes come part and parcel Obama lost a lot of appeal from many of his voters. Democrats have not got over the disastrous result they received and the GOP is hurting also he delivered a massive hammer blow against the est much like Obama did when he campaigned and got into office.
    Well no. Obama left office with a 60% approval rating.


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    #3985
    robinph
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Yeah but that doesn't really support your claim.

    What that liberals in the DNC have called on the President to be assassinated. You go google it.
    Why don't you stick those search terms into Google yourself? Make sure you are logged into your Google account at the same time of course.


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    #3986
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Do your own research. All over the twitter sphere and the protest movement had a number of prolific celebrities calling for him to be assassinated. The names don't come to mind

    You are going to have to provide links. These are your claims.


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    #3987
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Amerika wrote: »
    Because it isn't a requirement?

    Indeed not. Uniquely, Trump was the only candidate not to do so and the only president not to release any information about his tax affairs since FDR.

    Why?


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    #3988
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Well no. Obama left office with a 60% approval rating.

    Obama’s average job approval rating over his term of office is actually only 47.9%.

    But yeah, overall, personally, he as a nice guy. And that’s what I believe led to that final number... The sympathy vote?


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    #3989
    KingBrian2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,363 ✭✭✭KingBrian2


    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    You are going to have to provide links. These are your claims.


    http://turtleboysports.com/protesters-openly-calling-for-gangsters-to-kill-donald-trump-wednesday-at-dcu-rally-in-worcester/

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/347278/

    http://www.lifezette.com/popzette/comedian-jokes-about-donald-trump-assassination-and-other-outrage/

    http://yournewswire.com/hollywood-strike-trump-resign/

    You could really have me here all night.

    I would like to submit a formal protest being asked to provide links about what is universally known to be the case out there.:mad:


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    #3990
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,372 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Amerika wrote: »
    Obama’s average job approval rating over his term of office is actually only 47.9%.

    But yeah, overall, personally, he as a nice guy. And that’s what I believe led to that final number... The sympathy vote?
    Trump's initial rating is 50%. In Feb 2009 Obama's was 67%.

    Obama's exit popularity was probably a please stay plea once people saw who Trump really is.


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    #3991
    Amerika
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,176 ✭✭✭Amerika


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Indeed not. Uniquely, Trump was the only candidate not to do so and the only president not to release any information about his tax affairs since FDR.

    Why?

    Trump was the most non-traditional candidate we've ever seen. He said it didn't matter. And he was correct. Personally, I think he believed it was best to not release them because the mainstream media was incapable of reporting accurately and objectively since he won the GOP primary, and they would do anything and everything they could to take him down. And I believe he was correct here, also.


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