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President 'The Donald' Trump and Surprising Consequences - Mod warning in OP

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    #5642
    ECO_Mental
    Registered Users Posts: 2,498 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Vote not going ahead......Trump is said to have pulled it. It was going to fail by a good margin.

    7 years to get a replacement
    Majority in the congress
    Majority in senate
    "The world's greatest deal maker" as president

    And they can't get their NO.1 promise over the line. What a joke

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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    #5643
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,453 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The Deal Maker, bluff was called by his own GOP.
    What power has he left?


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    #5644
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    What was it Trump said? You'll get tired of winning or some such...


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    #5645
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    MadYaker wrote: »
    They've been trying to influence US elections yet they aren't a threat?

    1) they haven't.
    2) the US has a lot of countries influencing it's elections. Israel and Saudi Arabia in particular.
    3) the US on the other hand has interfered in elections in pretty much every country I'm the world.


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    #5646
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    wonderfullife wrote: »
    Worth noting James Clapper and Sally Yates were due before the Committee to testify on Monday.

    I'm no maths expert but I'm gonna assume 2+2 = 4 this time.

    Nunes better find himself a good lawyer.

    For what now?

    There fairly substantial evidence that Obama did in fact engage in surveillance.


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    #5647
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users Posts: 23,723 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Trump calling Putin for next instructions...

    Paul Ryan humiliated.


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    #5648
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,453 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Trump calls himself the great Closer.

    The C got lost somewhere.


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    #5649
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,954 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Water John wrote: »
    Trump calls himself the great Closer.

    The C got lost somewhere.

    he's Mariano rivera now ?


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    #5650
    Kitsunegari
    Closed Accounts Posts: 314 ✭✭Kitsunegari


    What is happening to draining the swamp? Seems like Trump is knee deep in the swamp with Ryan now after that poor attempt.

    In new developments it appears as if CNN's reports that Trump Tower communicated with Russia's Alpha Bank was based on forged logs. It's hard to believe that CNN is the mainstream equivalent of Breitbart.

    As if they don't have enough ammunition already. Really crappy reporting standards played a large part in helping Trump to get elected IMO.


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    #5651
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,954 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The fact that the GOP had seven years to think of how to get this new healthcare bill right and when they get the chance to get it through the congress and they have had to postpone the vote twice in a week.

    Two words joke shop.


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    #5652
    B_Wayne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭B_Wayne


    Yourself isit wrote: »
    For what now?

    There fairly substantial evidence that Obama did in fact engage in surveillance.

    No, there really is not.... It's more that Trump supporters have tried to twist an ongoing investigation into Trump's team etc into something that Obama orchestrated. This is not backed up by the Fbi.


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    #5653
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,453 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Trump said last night, 'take the vote'. It was his blink moment, because he pulled it.

    One doesn't play the poker hand unless you plan to see it through.


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    #5654
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    BoatMad wrote: »
    A failed bill will be very bad for Trumps credibility

    He never have any credibility so I doubt if this will make much difference really.


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    #5655
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    Trump calling Putin for next instructions...

    Paul Ryan humiliated.

    That's the nail in the coffin of Ryan's career anyway. 7 years to work on a replacement healthcare bill and couldn't even get his own party to vote for it.


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    #5656
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    He never have any credibility so I doubt if this will make much difference really.

    Markets have been doing quite well since he took office if I am correct, and on the basis that he could force through reforms to boost profits (exactly what this for example, really was). He has just proved he can't. He can't even negotiate successfully with his own party on something they wanted. It's been a Trumpster fire mess of a presidency so far for him.

    I reckon they may have known this was the case for a few hours, and intentionally waited until a few minutes after Wall Street closed (4pm) to announce it for that very reason.


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    #5657
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,621 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    The GOP qwere acting like they had a mandate from the people on this.

    Turns out, they just don't.


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    #5658
    Roanmore
    Registered Users Posts: 1,801 ✭✭✭Roanmore


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    That's the nail in the coffin of Ryan's career anyway. 7 years to work on a replacement healthcare bill and couldn't even get his own party to vote for it.

    He is an odious creep, his press conference was awful.


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    #5659
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,954 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    https://twitter.com/ap/status/845372509306408960

    So it's the democrats fault ? The GOP have a majority in both the house and senate.


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    #5660
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,792 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Roanmore wrote: »
    He is an odious creep, his press conference was awful.

    Mod: Please don't just post insults here as it doesn't constitute good debate.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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    #5661
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,652 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Wow, I am really surprised. I really felt they would get it through.

    Disaster for Trump. Not in of itself, but on top of everything else. The Russia investigation, the lying about Obama,the lying about the crowds, the lying about the number of illegal voters. The failure of the EO on immigration and the lack of progress on EO2.

    Ryan is also a joke. Total fail by him.

    A really terrible week for Trump.

    Expect some pretty outrageous tweets over the weekend


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    #5662
    Igotadose
    Registered Users Posts: 13,539 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Wow, I am really surprised. I really felt they would get it through.

    Disaster for Trump. Not in of itself, but on top of everything else. The Russia investigation, the lying about Obama,the lying about the crowds, the lying about the number of illegal voters. The failure of the EO on immigration and the lack of progress on EO2.

    Ryan is also a joke. Total fail by him.

    A really terrible week for Trump.

    Expect some pretty outrageous tweets over the weekend

    Please, please, Alec Baldwin tomorrow night on SNL! Please! Ohh such material!

    Seriously, I was surprised it didn't pass. Had it, a Dem majority post-2018 elections would've been very likely and maybe, just maybe, impeachment could finally start.

    Now the clown car lurches on.


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    #5663
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,453 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Pathetic press conference from DT.
    Blame the Dems, blame the Dems.

    Did leave the door open for Dems and Mod GOP to change Obamacare, I think.


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    #5664
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Water John wrote: »
    Pathetic press conference from DT.
    Blame the Dems, blame the Dems.

    Did leave the door open for Dems and Mod GOP to change Obamacare, I think.

    Ridiculous to blame the Democrats considering the large majority that the GOP have in the house! Trump has no credibility as a human being, never mind as POTUS


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    #5665
    super_furry
    Registered Users Posts: 27,322 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    I don't understand why they didn't just go with Trump's 'beautiful' secret plan that was going to cover more people and cost less money.


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    #5666
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,453 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    He now says he didn't like aspects of the Bill, farcical.


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    #5667
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    This is rapidly becoming the quickest lame duck presidency in history


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    #5668
    PropJoe10
    Registered Users Posts: 5,304 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    Water John wrote: »
    He now says he didn't like aspects of the Bill, farcical.

    He'll pin the blame entirely on Ryan in the next few weeks and dodge blame with his supporters.


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    #5669
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    0:35

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2chLWMvx-U


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    #5670
    BabyCheeses
    Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ap/status/845372509306408960

    So it's the democrats fault ? The GOP have a majority in both the house and senate.

    Now the dems can take credit for preventing a plan so bad that the gop disagreed with it.


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    #5671
    Water John
    Registered Users Posts: 21,453 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    May not agree with Ryan but he manned up at his press conference in contrast to Trump.


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