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President 'The Donald' Trump and Surprising Consequences - Mod warning in OP

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    #9302
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    It was an astounding session all right. I always though the committees had more power than to let that happen. To refuse to answer, based on nothing more than a personal opinion is unbelievable.

    But as pointed out, the key question was why they didn't simply say no, if that was the truth. If a cop asks you if you robbed the store you don't say that it is inappropriate to answer, you say no (if thats true!). Why would they be hedging their bets?
    Well as Overheal says, that could mean perjury. They are under oath. They seemed open to saying more in closed session, so the conclusion to draw from that is that it would then be up to the committee to publish whatever they say.

    Almost Bart Simpsonesque: "It wasn't me..."


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    #9303
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    It was an astounding session all right. I always though the committees had more power than to let that happen. To refuse to answer, based on nothing more than a personal opinion is unbelievable.

    But as pointed out, the key question was why they didn't simply say no, if that was the truth. If a cop asks you if you robbed the store you don't say that it is inappropriate to answer, you say no (if thats true!). Why would they be hedging their bets?

    Waiting for someone to break the omerta rule so they will only be corroborating evidence and not providing it "It wasn't me Don".


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    #9304
    InTheTrees
    Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    It was an astounding session all right. I always though the committees had more power than to let that happen. To refuse to answer, based on nothing more than a personal opinion is unbelievable.

    But as pointed out, the key question was why they didn't simply say no, if that was the truth. If a cop asks you if you robbed the store you don't say that it is inappropriate to answer, you say no (if thats true!). Why would they be hedging their bets?

    I think they could have been held in contempt but I think they got away with those answers because the committee is controlled by the republicans and they won't do anything.


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    #9305
    whatawaster
    Registered Users Posts: 12,906 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    Comey talking about the "nature of the person" (Trump) - "I was worried he might lie"

    Fairly damning


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    #9306
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Livestream here for anyone interested:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enqZlgDv-tw


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    #9307
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users Posts: 39,938 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    To use a cricket reference. If yesterday was a pair of batsmen trying to protect their stumps, today is a batmans hitting for boundaries.


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    #9308
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Have they sedated Trump? No sign of life out of him on Twitter so far...


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    #9309
    Barney92
    Registered Users Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Barney92


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Have they sedated Trump? No sign of life out of him on Twitter so far...

    He's gone to Ohio, which probably was planned so he'd be kept busy. It'll only be a delay anyway.


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    #9310
    CMOTDibbler
    Registered Users Posts: 7,762 ✭✭✭CMOTDibbler


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Have they sedated Trump? No sign of life out of him on Twitter so far...
    He's making a speech somewhere iirc.

    Not clear when he's free to start tweeting, but afaik, not for a while yet.


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    #9311
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Comey testifies that claims the FBI was in disarray were lies. Whaddya think of that Donald?


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    #9312
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,586 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    CMOTDibbler wrote: »
    He's making a speech somewhere iirc.

    Not clear when he's free to start tweeting, but afaik, not for a while yet.

    I think he's hijacked Juniors account, he's livetweeting at a rate of knots: https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr


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    #9313
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    I think he's hijacked Juniors account, he's livetweeting at a rate of knots: https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr

    Who gives a sh1t what an unelected little rich kid has to say.


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    #9314
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Lolling at JC's "lordy, I hope there are tapes of the conversation". Plus the "I made the memo unclassified so it could be shared with members of the investigation team". Cant see the FBI pulling some "it is classified" stunt to the committees, given that they have asked for the memos.


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    #9315
    SkepticQuark
    Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Who gives a sh1t what an unelected little rich kid has to say.

    Trump's supporters do sadly.


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    #9316
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Comey perceived Trump's request to drop the Flynn investigation as an order. Who to believe? Trump or Comey?


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    #9317
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Comey perceived Trump's request to drop the Flynn investigation as an order. Who to believe? Trump or Comey?

    Comey. Why would you believe Trump? When has he showed himself to be anything but a liar?


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    #9318
    SkepticQuark
    Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Comey perceived Trump's request to drop the Flynn investigation as an order. Who to believe? Trump or Comey?

    Lots of people trying to discredit it all yesterday as soon as he released his statement. It's not a golden bullet but it's definitely a hit to the shoulder. Personally, I was waiting for this hearing before believing any of the memos or anything. So sad that the Republicans are already spinning it as "nothing to see here! Move along!"


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    #9319
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I like the latest Senator's wording in thanking him for the way he came to the committee....


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    #9320
    ricero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Comey is really showing how dirty the swamp really is. The donald has a lot to clean up and i believe he will for the most part


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    #9321
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Comey perceived Trump's request to drop the Flynn investigation as an order. Who to believe? Trump or Comey?

    Esp as Don was careful to make sure it was a "one on one" meeting after he specifically instructed any possible witnesses [incl his AG] to what was to come out of the room. That smells of legal advice.


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    #9322
    Leroy42
    Registered Users Posts: 15,627 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    aloyisious wrote: »
    Esp as Don was careful to make sure it was a "one on one" meeting after he specifically instructed any possible witnesses [incl his AG] to what was to come out of the room. That smells of legal advice.

    But Don has tapes so he will clear it all up.


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    #9323
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    ricero wrote: »
    Comey is really showing how dirty the swamp really is. The donald has a lot to clean up and i believe he will for the most part

    Eh, he brought most of that swamp with him.


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    #9324
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    roddy15 wrote: »
    Lots of people trying to discredit it all yesterday as soon as he released his statement. It's not a golden bullet but it's definitely a hit to the shoulder. Personally, I was waiting for this hearing before believing any of the memos or anything. So sad that the Republicans are already spinning it as "nothing to see here! Move along!"

    Which I just can't understand is why Republicans think this is going to do their party any good. They aren't getting much of their legislation through, approval ratings are getting lower and in the medium-term trust in the party is sinking as well. I heard somewhere that they will move once approval ratings among Republican voters fall below 50% but I would have thought permanent damage will be done by then.


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    #9325
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    ricero wrote: »
    Comey is really showing how dirty the swamp really is. The donald has a lot to clean up and i believe he will for the most part

    Why? Tell me what Trump has DONE so far that makes you think he is such a stand-up guy. I don't want to hear about the promises or the bad stuff anyone else did I just want to understand your viewpoint and where it stems from.


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    #9326
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Lux23 wrote: »
    Comey. Why would you believe Trump? When has he showed himself to be anything but a liar?

    I was being facetious. Anyway, Comey has called Trump a liar twice now. And I believe Comey on that. Not good when the ex-Head of the FBI calls you a liar under oath.


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    #9327
    Skylinehead
    Registered Users Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Eh, he brought most of that swamp with him.

    Honestly, don't even bother responding. Pointless, they'll never respond with any sort of logic.


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    #9328
    SkepticQuark
    Registered Users Posts: 501 ✭✭✭SkepticQuark


    Sen. Roy Blunt is so ****ing dumb completely missing the real issue and going after Comey for making the memo about Flynn get out into the public. It's like Democrats whining about the DNC leaks, the content matters now stop whining about how your President's behaviour was exposed.


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    #9329
    Jamiekelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Jamiekelly


    I love how the Republican line of questioning went. "Why did you give a heads up to the media? They're all fake! Oh I think what you said to the media was classified, you look kinda like Snowden to me right now, leaking classified info to the fake media."

    They really are going all in when it comes to Trump. They seem very willing to spit on the American flag behind them so long as Trump demands it.


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    #9330
    [Deleted User]
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    Jesus the Republicans are embarrassing themselves. Unbelievably, and I can't believe I'm saying this, Rubio seemed to be the one closest to fair.


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    #9331
    aloyisious
    Registered Users Posts: 11,683 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    They're monitoring us: the "meddlesome priest" quote just popped up.

    Jumping ahead of the Admin and the FBI, committee member suggesting a train of thought to JC. thinking of getting the unidentified law professor of handing over the W/H one-on-one meeting memo to the committee. It is unclassified and the prof has it courtesy of JC so if JC says OK to the Prof "please give it to the committee"that releases him from any client/lawyer obligation or Federal Secrecy Act troubles.


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