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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Looks like Ivanka Trump will need some extra security wherever she goes. Why do some people feel they can shout and scream abuse and get away with it? I won't even get into the background of her attacker lest I'm accused of homophobia and anti-Semitism. Apparently he had a child with him to boot, what an example to set.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    20Cent wrote: »
    Look at Spencers buddies response.

    Jews Targeting Richard Spencer’s Mother for Harassment and Extortion – TAKE ACTION!
    Andrew Anglin | It's time to push back against these evil kikes!

    http://www.dailystormer.com/jews-targeting-richard-spencers-mother-for-harassment-and-extortion-take-action/

    Photo's (with Nazi Jewish stars photoshopped on them), social media accounts,(including a 12 year olds), phone numbers etc published. All harrassed and threatened. The 12 year old was told to climb into an oven.

    Spencer runs his campaigns from the building so it's fair game imo.

    He doesn't "run his campaigns" from the building, but good to note you consider extortion and the attacking of innocent family members "fair game" ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    He doesn't "run his campaigns" from the building, but good to note you consider extortion and the attacking of innocent family members "fair game" ;)

    He uses the premises for his organisation so yeah fair game their both adults.
    He didn't lick being a Nazi off a rock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    He doesn't "run his campaigns" from the building, but good to note you consider extortion and the attacking of innocent family members "fair game" ;)

    It's a quaint tourist town in the mountains. Local craft shops, souvenirs and tea rooms. I've been there a few times.
    The very last thing the locals are going to put up with is having the place become known for nazis and the intimidation of jews.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Why do some people feel they can shout and scream abuse and get away with it?
    Because they're assholes. There's no political persuasion with a monopoly on assholes.
    I won't even get into the background of her attacker lest I'm accused of homophobia and anti-Semitism.
    And yet, you managed to insinuate that her attacker is gay and Jewish, and that these things are somehow relevant.

    Like I said: no monopoly.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    And yet, you managed to insinuate that her attacker is gay and Jewish, and that these things are somehow relevant.

    Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    And yet, She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

    Personally I'd be proud of incurring the wrath of a bunch of self important play nazis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

    and of course you walked right into it


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

    Would be hesitant to believe the Nazi's version of events tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.
    Without even beginning to get going on this post, you... are aware that the post you quoted to was not referring to the Spencer story, right?

    And actually while I'm at it, where did the woman in the Spencer story try to 'line her own pockets'?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Looks like Ivanka Trump will need some extra security wherever she goes. Why do some people feel they can shout and scream abuse and get away with it? I won't even get into the background of her attacker lest I'm accused of homophobia and anti-Semitism. Apparently he had a child with him to boot, what an example to set.

    But does his background have a bearing on the attack? It seems to be entirely incidental. The man had a go at Ivanka because he hates her father, just like many people of various backgrounds in America. It had nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality or religion. He wasn't acting that way because of either of those things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    20Cent wrote: »
    Would be hesitant to believe the Nazi's version of events tbh.

    The emails are there for everyone to see.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Nobody is too surprised the townfolk don't want Spencer about their tourist town. But this grench woman decided to try and profit out if the whole episode. Getting him out wasn't enough she spotted a chance to line her pockets. Considering she is Jewish and in a dispute with a white supremacist like Spencer it wasn't the wisest move. It was an open invitation to Spencer's supporter. She should have left money well out of it. She left herself open to being accused of being a walking stereotype.

    I have no idea what any of that has to do with an incident involving Ivanka Trump on a JetBlue flight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    oscarBravo wrote: »
    I have no idea what any of that has to do with an incident involving Ivanka Trump on a JetBlue flight.

    I think you may have 'triggered' him with the word 'Jewish'! :p


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    But does his background have a bearing on the attack? It seems to be entirely incidental. The man had a go at Ivanka because he hates her father, just like many people of various backgrounds in America. It had nothing whatsoever to do with sexuality or religion. He wasn't acting that way because of either of those things.
    Those are facts. The kind of people who foam at the mouth about gays and Jews are, frankly, immune to facts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    20Cent wrote: »
    Would be hesitant to believe the Nazi's version of events tbh.

    Really.

    The alt right nazis haven't exactly shown themselves to be truthful about much.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Really.

    The alt right nazis haven't exactly shown themselves to be truthful about much.


    Crap. The facts are there for all to see. Grench is a extortionist and I hope legal means can be enacted against her and the hilariously named "Love Lives Here" shakedown outfit.

    Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.
    Why?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Crap. The facts are there for all to see. Grench is a extortionist and I hope legal means can be enacted against her and the hilariously named "Love Lives Here" shakedown outfit.

    Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.

    If they were acting on a religious precept it would be perfectly reasonable to comment on their religion.

    They weren't, never claimed to be, never brought religion into it.

    So it's like saying, it's of note that both incidents involved people with hair.

    I'm totally stumped as to the gay part.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Also, it's of note that both incidents (plane/Whitefish) involve hostile Jews.

    Nazis whining about Jews, there's a surprise, good upstanding Christians that they are.

    Funny.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Nazis whining about Jews, there's a surprise, good upstanding Christians that they are.

    Funny.

    Yes, funny you ignore what Gersh and the female Rabbi, leader of "Love Lives Here" *snort* enacted against an innocent woman who, unlike them, built something/ brought value to the town.

    I don't care about your "nazi" namecalling, stupid as it is, it has as much effect now as raaaacist used to, lol.

    Funny indeed ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Yes, funny you ignore what Gersh and the female Rabbi, leader of "Love Lives Here" *snort* enacted against an innocent woman who, unlike them, built something/ brought value to the town.

    I don't care about your "nazi" namecalling, stupid as it is, it has as much effect now as raaaacist used to, lol.

    Funny indeed ;)

    Why is it of note that both situations involve Jewish people?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭vetinari


    Jaysus, that didn't take long to escalate. I'm waiting for Amazing fun to complain about political correctness for being called out about his anti semitism


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    vetinari wrote: »
    Jaysus, that didn't take long to escalate. I'm waiting for Amazing fun to complain about political correctness for being called out about his anti semitism

    Its like the "alt right" have become the most enormous babies whining about everything they feel entitled to and can't have.

    Seriously coming down on Jews? Have we not done that crap enough and didn't it end very badly for the Nazis? Have they learned nothing?

    Whining about immigrants. Whining about women too. Really, grow a pair ffs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Why is it of note that both situations involve Jewish people?

    I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play:
    it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white".
    Apparently not!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,633 ✭✭✭✭Widdershins


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play:
    it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white".
    Apparently not!

    Is the Ivanka incident a separate issue? I haven't been following the thread lately


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,803 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    I know your "brand" is cutsey cluelessness, but I'll play:
    it's of note since they are agitating against pro-White advocates, or those they perceive as such. This is noteworthy, as I would have imagined they considered themselves "white".
    Apparently not!

    I would have thought whiteness and Jewishness were perfectly orthogonal. Outside the fevered imaginations of national socialists, of course.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭vetinari


    Last I checked, you could be non white and still Jewish.
    Trump's election is certainly allowing the bigots to be more open and honest with themselves.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 38,727 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    When did white supremacists become "Pro-White activists?"

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 531 ✭✭✭midnight city


    When did white supremacists become "Pro-White activists?"

    You think people can't advocate for white interests without being supremacist? Have you been on Facebook lately, on Twitter, read the papers, watched TV, been on American campuses, listened to feminists? They are pretty clear 'whiteness' is a thing. A problem even. White people better start looking out for their interests because there are people out there looking to bring them down a peg or 2 simply for being white.


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