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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Honestly it sounds like a contrived invented reason so the Nazis can feel enraged about Jews.

    Nazis try and establish a base in a quiet tourist town and oh shock horror the evil Jews are now targeting the Nazis mother?

    Is here any actual evidence of this?

    Are you for real? What a ridiculous post.
    I have shared this before, btw. Try researching the incidents you feel compelled to comment on:

    https://medium.com/@recnepss/does-love-really-live-here-fff159563ba3#.zaqjczmah


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Billy86 wrote: »
    "These people". Go on. Use the word. You know you want to. :D

    Deflection yet again.
    The facts remain, despite your refusal to accept them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    The mistake when discussing the alt right is assuming they are rational or open to logic or facts. They have no interest in that just in winding up others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Deflection yet again.
    The facts remain, despite your refusal to accept them.

    The facts do remain, I've spelled them out and you haven't rejected them. Here's another fact - the guy is banned from all 26 Schengen countries due to trying to organise White Supremacist activities.

    He is what he is, a White Supremacist, it's that simple. But feel free to keep digging if you must.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    20Cent wrote: »
    The mistake when discussing the alt right is assuming they are rational or open to logic or facts. They have no interest in that just in winding up others.

    Pretty funny comment given I have just provided facts that show comments from "IntheTrees" (among others) are based on absolute ignorance :rolleyes:

    Sherry Spencer is a victim of a vicious extortion and is an innocent. Unless you approve of extortion as a means of attacking those whose ideas you don't like, you ought to be on her side as well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Are you for real? What a ridiculous post.
    I have shared this before, btw. Try researching the incidents you feel compelled to comment on:

    Contrived outrage. I'm not getting the jewish conspiracy stuff at all.

    At best it was local bickering that has now blown out of all proportion due to the fact that this womans son is a nazi leader and has his national socialism institute (or whatever) in the town.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Billy86 wrote: »
    The facts do remain, I've spelled them out and you haven't rejected them. Here's another fact - the guy is banned from all 26 Schengen countries due to trying to organise White Supremacist activities.

    He is what he is, a White Supremacist, it's that simple. But feel free to keep digging if you must.


    You must not understand rejection then, since I have replied to your drivel numerous times.

    Also: I don't know what tossing in the "some guy" line is meant to do, as its irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Bizarre move there, lol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    You must not understand rejection then, since I have replied to your drivel numerous times.

    Also: I don't know what tossing in the "some guy" line is meant to do, as its irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Bizarre move there, lol.
    Your replies not only failed to that Spencer is not a white supremacist (because that's exactly what he is) but then went on to you praising neo Nazi's for their planned anti-Jewish armed march. There could be a reason why you don't consider Richard Spencer a white supremacist...

    Not even sure what the drivel in your second paragraph is about, but I did notice you not responding to Spencer also being banned from all 26 Schengen countries for his attempts at white supremacist activities over there.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Pretty funny comment given I have just provided facts that show comments from "IntheTrees" (among others) are based on absolute ignorance :rolleyes:

    Sherry Spencer is a victim of a vicious extortion and is an innocent. Unless you approve of extortion as a means of attacking those whose ideas you don't like, you ought to be on her side as well.

    Ye all sound the same. Like a bunch of Katie Hopkins or Milo clones. Remember all those clickbait rubbish on Facebook, lasted a few months until even the slow learners stopped clicking. Alt right will go the same way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    You are citing a 2014 event, when we were discussing Spencer's MOTHER being the target of extortion. You're all over the place.

    You can call him what you want: he has explained why he rejects that label.

    I have also already explained why I am glad that an innocent women being targeted by criminals with the intent to extort her has people willing to defend her. It's refreshing to see pushback against such rotten people :)

    Hopefully I won't have to repeat all this to you yet again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    You are citing a 2014 event, when we were discussing Spencer's MOTHER being the target of extortion. You're all over the place.
    Nope, he is still banned today for his white supremacist activities. Kind of strange given you're so eager to claim he is not a white supremacist.
    You can call him what you want: he has explained why he rejects that label.
    Good for him, I've met plenty of racist, sexists, and general bigots who don't like to be called it either.
    I have also already explained why I am glad that an innocent women being targeted by criminals with the intent to extort her has people willing to defend her. It's refreshing to see pushback against such rotten people :)
    Criminals, eh? What crime, exactly? Oh, wait, this is you claiming those damn Jews are lining their own pockets again isn't it? Typical Jews, eh? Certainly explains why you've come out and said "Good on" the neo Nazis for trying to put those slimy Jews back in their place.

    Yeah, I think your positions make a lot more sense now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Sherry Spencer is a victim of a vicious extortion and is an innocent.

    Umm.

    Well its heartening to see the backlash which includes most of the State of Montana rallying in support of the residents of Whitefish against the nazis.









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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Extortion is a crime Billy. Even when done against people you place the "nazi" or "supremacist" label on.

    Btw: your labels mean nothing to me. I mean, why would they?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Extortion is a crime Billy. Even when done against people you place the "nazi" or "supremacist" label on.

    Btw: your labels mean nothing to me. I mean, why would they?

    Why doesn't he call the cops then? If he has proof of extortion?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Extortion is a crime Billy. Even when done against people you place the "nazi" or "supremacist" label on.

    Btw: your labels mean nothing to me. I mean, why would they?

    If it's extortion, the police will step in like they did with Spencer in Hungary. Hey, why was he arrested in Hungary, then deported and banned from all 26 Schengen countries again?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Stay tuned and we'll see what comes of it all. Apparently Tanya Gersh, the prime extortionist, has already been removed from her employers website, indicating a possible firing. It is the holidays, suppose January will be when we have more info.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Billy86 wrote: »
    If it's extortion, the police will step in like they did with Spencer in Hungary. Hey, why was he arrested in Hungary, then deported and banned from all 26 Schengen countries again?

    :pac: You can't figure it out? Try his wiki page.

    He did a MONSTROUS thing: he organized an NPI meeting, omg, what an EVIL man!
    In 2014, Spencer was deported from Budapest, Hungary, and via the Schengen Agreement, is banned from 26 countries in Europe for three years, after trying to organize National Policy Institute Conference, a conference for white nationalists.[4][33]


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Stay tuned and we'll see what comes of it all.

    Well spencer is realising his mistake and trying to distance himself from the nazi rally scheduled for mid January. No doubt his mother is horrified that her son has ruined her reputation in town.

    Meanwhile the residents of Whitefish are ALL (except presumably the spencers!) displaying Menorahs in their windows. Screwing with a town's livelihood by scaring away the tourists does not garner much sympathy with the locals.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    :pac: You can't figure it out? Try his wiki page.

    He did a MONSTROUS thing: he organized an NPI meeting, omg, what an EVIL man!
    Ah, funny you bring up Wikipedia - here's the first sentence of his Wikipedia entry: Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is an American white nationalist, known for promoting white supremacist views. :)

    And the first sentence of NPI's Wikipedia page: The National Policy Institute (NPI) is a white nationalist, white supremacist think tank based in Arlington, Virginia.

    So yep, he got banned from 26 Schengen countries for trying to set up white supremacist activities, exactly like I said. And that's because, as everyone is well aware, he is a white supremacist.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,939 ✭✭✭20Cent


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Stay tuned and we'll see what comes of it all. Apparently Tanya Gersh, the prime extortionist, has already been removed from her employers website, indicating a possible firing. It is the holidays, suppose January will be when we have more info.

    Why not let the cops deal with it without the march then?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭FA Hayek


    Brian? wrote: »
    Logic does not dictate that at all. There are too many variables to draw a conclusion based on the electoral result alone. It's an over simplification to use the result as a measure of the candidate.

    My no objective measurement was Trump a better candidate. But then objective measures don't win elections.

    The whole purpose of putting forward a candidate is to win an election. If you fail to do that and lose against the appalling candidate that is Trump then yes you were a worse candidate. All the if's and but's in the world won't change that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Ah, funny you bring up Wikipedia - here's the first sentence of his Wikipedia entry: Richard Bertrand Spencer (born May 11, 1978) is an American white nationalist, known for promoting white supremacist views. :)

    And the first sentence of NPI's Wikipedia page: The National Policy Institute (NPI) is a white nationalist, white supremacist think tank based in Arlington, Virginia.

    So yep, he got banned from 26 Schengen countries for trying to set up white supremacist activities, exactly like I said. And that's because, as everyone is well aware, he is a white supremacist.

    The same article also states he rejects that label, yawn.

    Nope, he got banned for organizing an NPI conference, as it says. Oooooooo, such a threat. What a joke.
    Wish they were as diligent about banning say, refugees who mow down Christmas markets and the people in them, etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    InTheTrees wrote: »
    Well spencer is realising his mistake and trying to distance himself from the nazi rally scheduled for mid January. No doubt his mother is horrified that her son has ruined her reputation in town.

    Meanwhile the residents of Whitefish are ALL (except presumably the spencers!) displaying Menorahs in their windows. Screwing with a town's livelihood by scaring away the tourists does not garner much sympathy with the locals.

    It's amazing how far you've come in the "Whitefish expert department" considering a mere hour ago you stated you thought this a fake story, lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,161 ✭✭✭Amazingfun


    20Cent wrote: »
    Why not let the cops deal with it without the march then?

    Ask the man organizing the event. Andrew Anglin @ The Daily Stormer.

    Don't see what the march has to do with the cops investigation tho, they can still investigate, march or not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    The same article also states he rejects that label, yawn.

    I agree for once. His constant denials are tiresome.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Mod:

    @Amazingfun & Billy, cut it out.

    If you can't reply in a civil manner to each other then don't bother replying at all.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    EDIT re mod post above: Back on topic, the alt right are steeped in white supremacist views as has been said for a long time, hence the popularity of Richard Spencer who has been banned from 26 Schengen countries because of this very reason and is a noted white Supremacist. This attitude covers all the way across to those who do less to try and hide it like Andrew Anglin, who has organised an anti-Jewish armed march in Richard Spencer's name, which the latter seems to have very little issue with.

    What is interesting is the emerging split between this side of the alt right and the other, who have expressed that they don't want to see Nazi salutes and propaganda as seen previously at Richard Spencer speeches (who has been banned from that same 'Deploraball' function), which naturally has already devolved into anti-Semitic name-calling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    Don't see what the march has to do with the cops investigation tho, they can still investigate, march or not.

    You said a crime had been committed.

    SO why do nazi's have to make an armed show of force against the jewish community instead of just calling the police?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Amazingfun wrote: »
    The same article also states he rejects that label, yawn.

    Nope, he got banned for organizing an NPI conference, as it says. Oooooooo, such a threat. What a joke.
    Wish they were as diligent about banning say, refugees who mow down Christmas markets and the people in them, etc.

    An NPI event is a white supremacist event. Simples.

    I believe refugees who mow down Christmas markets are banned. However all Muslim refugees are not banned because of the crimes of a few. Just like all white Americans aren't banned because Richard Spencer is a white supremacist.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,298 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Question for our alt right posters:

    Define white nationalism please.

    Follow up question

    Define where in Europe must you descendants hail from in order to qualify as white.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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