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We need a "Rereg Troll" button

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  • 17-11-2016 2:17pm
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    intheclouds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭


    Or some way of immediately identifying these insects to mods.

    Theres one around right now and the standard report process is far too slow, they are winding posters up left and right and its a shame that you cant just hit a single button and any mod from any forum can come along and smack them down again.
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    #2
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,775 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Ultimately, it is the Admin who ban re-reg trolls from the site & we usually take action as soon as we receive notification of their presence from the Mods.

    However, we don't just whack them with a ban hammer - the Admin independently verify that they are indeed re-reg accounts & that a siteban is warranted. Unfortunately, this takes time - in some cases a couple of days may be required to be 100% sure.

    So, for the time being we will continue to rely on members to report suspected re-reg trolls, & carry on conducting our checks as we do now. We could do away with the checks & immediately ban anyone reported as a re-reg troll, but that wouldn't be fair on those that may get banned in error. Not to mention that we may be accused of being power-abusing Nazis.


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    #3
    seagull
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    If they're trolling to that extent, they'll probably earn a ban for that soon enough, and it won't matter that it takes a few days more for the ban to become permanent.


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    #4
    intheclouds
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,175 ✭✭✭intheclouds


    I'm more just talking about a way to bring it to attention quickly. What happens as a result of that is whatever happens.

    They destroy threads and totally wind people up in just a couple of hours.


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    #5
    seagull
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    A new thread similar to the shilling/spam thread? I suppose how useful that would be depends on how closely monitored this forum is.


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    #6
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    seagull wrote: »
    A new thread similar to the shilling/spam thread? I suppose how useful that would be depends on how closely monitored this forum is.
    My concern with that thread as is and any proposed thread for re-regs is mud can stick, and if other see details posted there they may assume the worst when the Admins are unable to confirm a link, risking innocent posters getting caught up.


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    #7
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    A few trolls around the place are the sign of a healthy forum based community imho.


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    #8
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    Agreed , in fact boards should really rethink their whole approach to banning re regs.


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    #9
    The Hill Billy
    Registered Users Posts: 22,775 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Agreed , in fact boards should really rethink their whole approach to banning re regs.
    What were you thinking of?


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    Barry Badrinath
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    What were you thinking of?

    Invite them to a super sekret Boards beers in a small shed in a field, far far away.

    Stick a poster on the wall titled "List of Dole cheats and Mod addresses". As this distracts the poor idiots, pull the pin and lob a grenade in before bolting the door shut.

    Strut away cross the field, twirling the pin around your index finger and letting a big grin develop on your mush.....as you hear a big bang....and nothing else.


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    #11
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,623 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »
    A few trolls around the place are the sign of a healthy forum based community imho.
    AH has the health of an olympic athlete in that case.


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    #12
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    The Hill Billy wrote: »
    What were you thinking of?

    Act on reported posts, right now it seems anyone who even reregs with no malice just gets canned.

    Save that patrolling/investigating time (well its probably auto tools) to reported posts - the posts will be reported anyway once they start acting the dick.


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    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Act on reported posts, right now it seems anyone who even reregs with no malice just gets canned.
    Only posters who re-reg to avoid a ban get re-banned. If they wish to dispute that initial ban they can do so in Prison or the DRP

    Anyone is free to close their account and start up a new one provided they are not doing so to get round a ban


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    #14
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    OK , but say someone is banned and fails in the prison or feedback route ?

    And has really no mal intentions this time round ?


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    #15
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    OK , but say someone is banned and fails in the prison or feedback route ?

    And has really no mal intentions this time round ?

    What bit of "banned" do you not get? Why should you get back as a re-reg if you were justifiably banned. You are still you regardless of a username.


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    #16
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    Summer Vast Upholstery wrote: »
    What bit of "banned" do you not get? Why should you get back as a re-reg if you were justifiably banned. You are still you regardless of a username.

    Yeah fair enough for serious trolls/offences , but appears some people are banned for harmless enough things - or at least a long line of them, if time passes and they mature
    i dont see the reason of not letting them back - then again im not a mod and i realise its a private site.

    Would you put someone in prison for life for repeatedly stealing bread ?


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    #17
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Yeah fair enough for serious trolls/offences , but appears some people are banned for harmless enough things - or at least a long line of them, if time passes and they mature
    i dont see the reason of not letting them back - then again im not a mod and i realise its a private site.

    Would you put someone in prison for life for repeatedly stealing bread ?

    yes! You may have a point about the poster growing up, after all there are probably plenty of bored students on boards at any given moment - they won't all be cretins forever.


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    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    OK , but say someone is banned and fails in the prison or feedback route ?

    And has really no mal intentions this time round ?
    By and large, there are very few people the admins will automatically ban when they detect a re-reg. So few in fact that they could probably list them all by their actual names.

    If someone were to come back after an absence of weeks or months, register a new account and behave themselves, the admins will unofficially let them at it. They'll get a lot less leeway than a regular poster and be banned a lot faster, but in general re-regs are given the benefit of the doubt.

    I see what you're saying about just letting the reported posts sort it out. But some are more clever than that and will fly under the reporting radar while still acting the maggot. There are also some more insidious individuals who engage in malicious behaviour off-thread (i.e. through PMs), which people may be far less likely to report.


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    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    This actually came up recently for me. A rereg was spotted and details passed to admin. Admin decided that this user had been back for quite a few months and had no issues at all so they would be given a chance, and rightly so IMO.

    Unless this user starts acting the mick again there should be no issue :)


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    #20
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    yes! You may have a point about the poster growing up, after all there are probably plenty of bored students on boards at any given moment - they won't all be cretins forever.

    Cretins is a bit harsh !

    Im speaking from personal experience, I have no access to AH .. and its from a long line of small issues, but a few of these at least I honestly think were total misunderstanings (yeah you heard it all before I know !) - which would still leave me with a bad record - but not permanently banned.

    And I have no intention of acting the bollix again .. honestly I have discovered twitter for all my rants :P


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    #21
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Then appeal it in DRP on that basis.


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    #22
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Then appeal it in DRP on that basis.

    I will, but im giving it 6 months or so to show a clean record ..extra ammo for my case.


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    #23
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Second Toughest in_the Freshers wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Some posters just aren't wanted back, they've wasted enough mod time and are simply more trouble than they're worth :)


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    #24
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    OK , but say someone is banned and fails in the prison or feedback route ?

    And has really no mal intentions this time round ?

    Some posters have come back and posted away no bothers.

    Changing their posting style tends to help! Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #25
    OCEANIC FIZZY POP NINE
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 161 ✭✭OCEANIC FIZZY POP NINE


    Beasty wrote: »
    Only posters who re-reg to avoid a ban get re-banned. If they wish to dispute that initial ban they can do so in Prison or the DRP

    Anyone is free to close their account and start up a new one provided they are not doing so to get round a ban

    Horsesh1te of the highest order.


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    #26
    Second Toughest in_the Freshers
    Site Banned Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Second Toughest in_the Freshers


    K-9 wrote: »
    Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results...
    ...
    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    Agreed , in fact boards should really rethink their whole approach to banning re regs.


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    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Second Toughest in_the Freshers wrote: »
    ...

    Weren't you allowed back after multiple reregs and perma bans?


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    #28
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 76,290 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    OCEANIC FIZZY POP NINE wrote: »
    Horsesh1te of the highest order.
    :confused:

    Could you detail what you consider inaccurate in my post?


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    #29
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    OCEANIC FIZZY POP NINE wrote: »
    Horsesh1te of the highest order.

    I closed and came back. Wasn't banned before. No problem now. It wouldn't be in the interest of boards to stop people who took a break from contributing again


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    #30
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    You've appealed it and it was upheld. Move on.


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    #31
    osarusan
    Registered Users Posts: 16,623 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    I just use the legacy version of boards, so I'm not sure of the layouts of other versions, but I was wondering...are there some layouts in which the post count/join date is not visible?

    Because in AH, you get the same reregs again and again (similar names, same threads, same text just copied and pasted over and over, even), and yet posters continue to engage with them. So i wondered if they can't see the post count/join date.

    Joined today, post count of one, same post as that similarly-named poster from 20 minutes ago who is already banned and whose post has been deleted...hmm...yes, let's engage, this will go places.


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