Political Correctness gone mad

Candie

Candie wrote: »

Father deserved to be convicted though, although the sentence seems very harsh given the background.

It was probably excacerbated by the fact that on the way to kill his main victim he also attempted to kill another victim. An ex-boyfriend. One wonders what would have happened to any other ex's that happened to cross their path on his way to complete his rampage. "What - he swapped a candy for a first kiss when you were 13? POW POW POW!!!".

And that attempted murder was not just by shooting at him either - but by shooting several shots "into a convenience store" to get him - where he could have killed just about anyone in the process - including small children of the age his daughter was when she was abused. But likely in his rage to gain revenge for harm on his little precious - he cared little about anyone else's child.

So the long sentence is likely due to consecutive terms. One for attempted murder and reckless endangerment of the public - and one for the actual murder.

Goya

I heard a customer in a shoe shop call a particular pair of shoes too PC. Yes, politically correct shows. The heels were obviously not cripplingly high enough.

osarusan

If you are convicted of a Class A felony offense in Alabama and you used, or attempted to use, a firearm during the commission of the crime, you face a sentence of no less than 20 years in prison.

Murder and Attempted Murder are both Class A felony offenses in Alabama.

Edups

Peregrinus wrote: »

Are you under the impression that there was ever a time when it was lawful to murder somebody because, more than a decade previously, he had assaulted a family member of yours?

I don't think anyone ever thought it was lawful. But I'd personally still do it.

racso1975

was reliably informed today its no longer Sugar Daddy but Glucose Guardian.

ScumLord

Deleted User wrote: »

One hundred years ago the child molester would have been hanged/lynched and the father wouldn't have broken the law!

Unless they were a priest or politician, or police officer. It would also depend on who the victim was, if they were from a minority or poor no one would have made the effort to catch the person committing the crime

Old Bill wrote: »

The PC brigade and the human rights mob would view you as the criminal if you dispensed Justice.

Our system is so corrupt that they even give free legal aid to convicted sex beasts.

How is "innocent until proven guilty" and due process corruption? Of course they give legal aid to people. Without it I could accuse you of any crime and get a mob together for a quick lynching before they've even asked themselves what you're supposed to have done.

sid waddell

ScumLord wrote: »

How is "innocent until proven guilty" and due process corruption? Of course they give legal aid to people. Without it I could accuse you of any crime and get a mob together for a quick lynching before they've even asked themselves what you're supposed to have done.

Innocent until proven guilty?

Due process?

Free legal aid?

Pah, it's PLIH-ICAL CRECTNISS GONE MAAAAD!

buckwheat

That's not political correctness

Father was fully justified morally imo but prison comes with murder. It can't be any other way.

I've a little girl and I'd like to think I'd do the same

Old Bill

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

How in the name of muppetry is that an example of 'Political Correctness'?

The PC aspect of this story is that an animal who rapes a 4 year old child is still considered a "person" in eyes of the law.

Maximus Alexander

It's a sure sign that a person doesn't spend a lot of time thinking when they want to encourage circumstances whereby governments have the power to revoke an individual's human rights.

Old Bill

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

It's a sure sign that a person doesn't spend a lot of time thinking when they want to encourage circumstances whereby governments have the power to revoke an individual's human rights.

If it was your child that was raped I don't think you would be too concerned about the perpetrators "human rights".

kunst nugget

Old Bill wrote: »

The PC aspect of this story is that an animal who rapes a 4 year old child is still considered a "person" in eyes of the law.

Again, that has nothing to do with political correctness…

Glenster

"Murderer goes to jail"

Its an outrage!

Maximus Alexander

Old Bill wrote: »

If it was your child that raped I don't think you would be too concerned about the perpetrators "human rights".

Not sure how my personal feelings in a hypothetical scenario relate to 'the eyes of the law'.

Tombo2001

This is the 1'000'000th thread on Boards with this title.

I hope OP gets some sort of prize.

ScumLord

Old Bill wrote: »

If it was your child that was raped I don't think you would be too concerned about the perpetrators "human rights".

So if it was Maximus's child that would give him the right to kill you if he thought you'd been the culprit? Without due process and the rule of law, it's whoever he thinks did it.

Glenster

ScumLord wrote: »

So if it was Maximus's child that would give him the right to kill you if he thought you'd been the culprit? Without due process and the rule of law, it's whoever he thinks did it.

Don't know if that's a fair analogy, yer man he killed was convicted of raping his daughter.

Old Bill

ScumLord wrote: »

So if it was Maximus's child that would give him the right to kill you if he thought you'd been the culprit? Without due process and the rule of law, it's whoever he thinks did it.

The animal who raped that mans daughter in America had already been convicted.

So I don't see what the problem is here when he dispensed his own justice.

ScumLord

Old Bill wrote: »

The animal who raped that mans daughter in America had already been convicted.

So I don't see what the problem is here when he dispensed his own justice.

What's the point in going to the effort of investigating the case, bringing it to trial and convicting a man if you're just going to kill him after all the time and money has been spent?

In a lot of cases like these there isn't enough evidense to convict. What if the family of those victims decides to take the law into their own hands when they don't know for sure who the perpetrator is?

Mob justice is some of the scariest justice out there, an angry mob can be made do literally anything. Anyone on the planet could simply say a particular person did some heinous act like described here and have that person lynched by a mob before anyone thinks to check whether it was true or not.

V_Moth

ScumLord wrote: »

What's the point in going to the effort of investigating the case, bringing it to trial and convicting a man if you're just going to kill him after all the time and money has been spent?

In a lot of cases like these there isn't enough evidense to convict. What if the family of those victims decides to take the law into their own hands when they don't know for sure who the perpetrator is?

Mob justice is some of the scariest justice out there, an angry mob can be made do literally anything. Anyone on the planet could simply say a particular person did some heinous act like described here and have that person lynched by a mob before anyone thinks to check whether it was true or not.

That is the weird thing about people like OP. They never consider that they might be on the receiving end of "mob justice", it is always some unknowable evil "other".

Grayson

Aren't there some US states where up t 10% of death row inmates have been freed because of new evidence or new technology that exonerates them?

Just imagine how many innocent people have been killed in the name of justice over the years.

Grayson

Here's an article I just read about the use of capital punishment in the US.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/24/death-row-the-lawyer-who-keeps-losing

Warning: Some of the details are unpleasant.

LordSutch

Chalkboard instead of blackboard (just in case it might offend black people)

Grayson

LordSutch wrote: »

Chalkboard instead of blackboard (just in case it might offend black people)

I thought they were called chalkboards because most of them aren't black anymore. There's loads of green ones now.

Edit: I googled it. Turns out Chalkboard and blackboard both date back hundreds of years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackboard

The term "blackboard" is attested in English from the mid-eighteenth century; the Oxford English Dictionary provides a citation from 1739, to write "with Chalk on a black-Board".[7] The term "chalkboard" was used interchangeably with "blackboard" in the United Kingdom in the early nineteenth century, but by the twentieth century had become primarily restricted to North American English.[7]

LordSutch

LordSutch wrote: »

Chalkboard instead of blackboard (just in case it might offend black people)

If the board is black it's called a blackboard, if it's white it's called a whiteboard.
It's called a chalk board when the colour is indescribable (sort of greeney grey with a hint of pink).

Ken.

That guy made 2 major mistakes
1.Making it to quick by shooting the pedo.
2.Not disappearing the body.

Goya

LordSutch wrote: »

Chalkboard instead of blackboard (just in case it might offend black people)

Whether this is definitely true should be considered though. I don't believe it's true that anyone (bar a tiny group of lunatics on the fringe who might not even be black) finds the term "blackboard" offensive.

20Cent

A lot of these PC gone mad stories turn out to be rubbish. Is there evidence of blackboard being found offensive?

Flimpson

Flimpson wrote: »

Whether this is definitely true should be considered though. I don't believe it's true that anyone (bar a tiny group of lunatics on the fringe who might not even be black) finds the term "blackboard" offensive.

I think it's down to a certain group of PC advocates who "imagine" it could potentially be offensive, so they declare it offensive!
Once it's declared as offensive it becomes offensive.

Peregrinus

Deleted User wrote: »

I think it's down to a certain group of PC advocates who "imagine" it could potentially be offensive, so they declare it offensive!
Once it's declared as offensive it becomes offensive.

But, other than your thoughts, have you any actual evidence of this?

The left aren't the only ones capable of imagination. Could it be that the "PC advocates" who supposedly deem things to be offensive are, in fact, largely imaginary?

Grayson

Peregrinus wrote: »

But, other than your thoughts, have you any actual evidence of this?

The left aren't the only ones capable of imagination. Could it be that the "PC advocates" who supposedly deem things to be offensive are, in fact, largely imaginary?

I've been googling and I can't find anything. The only thing I can find is a comment a user left on a news story where they claim they had been told not to use the phrase by the Ministry of Defence back in the 80's. However I can't find anything if I google it with the MoD.

There are other references but it appears that every single story is second or third hand information.

Peregrinus

"Political correctness" is a bogeyman of the right largely invented to fill their need for victim status, or to allow them to present themselves as edgy rebels.

Peregrinus

Peregrinus wrote: »

But, other than your thoughts, have you any actual evidence of this?

The left aren't the only ones capable of imagination. Could it be that the "PC advocates" who supposedly deem things to be offensive are, in fact, largely imaginary?

Well, someone decided that the word blackboard shouldn't be used and has "blackened" the use of the word.
The mere fact that people now feel uncomfortable using the work blackboard is evidence enough.

Maximus Alexander

I went in to buy a blackboard on black Friday, but the place was black to I gave up and went for a pint of the black stuff instead.

kunst nugget

Deleted User wrote: »

Well, someone decided that the word blackboard shouldn't be used and has "blackened" the use of the word.
The mere fact that people now feel uncomfortable using the work blackboard is evidence enough.

Who is this someone? It's an urban myth but people are happy to use the story because it gives them something to rail against. 'Now you can't use the word blackboard because it's racist. PC gone mad! Seriously, you couldn't make it up!'

Eh, yeah, you could…

Wanderer78

Thank God we have tighter gun laws here, some people seem to think it's fine just to shoot other human beings. Trump doing the right thing, give me a break! What a scumbag!

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

Who is this someone? It's an urban myth but people are happy to use the story because it gives them something to rail against. 'Now you can't use the word blackboard because it's racist. PC gone mad! Seriously, you couldn't make it up!'

Eh, yeah, you could…

Myth or no myth, it's happened and we're stuck with it!
I've been told several times by younger people that it's "racist" to use the word blackboard.

Well known propaganda tactic is to tell the same lie often enough and it will eventually be taken as the truth.

kunst nugget

Deleted User wrote: »

Myth or no myth, it's happened and we're stuck with it!
I've been told several times by younger people that it's "racist" to use the word blackboard.

Well known propaganda tactic is to tell the same lie often enough and it will eventually be taken as the truth.

So, because an urban myth is made up about something to portray people in a bad light and others believe it, you blame the people that the urban myth is about even though they had nothing to do with it?

Riiiiiight…

kunst nugget

kunst nugget wrote: »

So, because an urban myth is made up about something to portray people in a bad light and others believe it, you blame the people that the urban myth is about even though they had nothing to do with it?

Riiiiiight…

Wroooong!!!!
you're getting it arseways, I'm commenting about the people who claim that the word is racist. And are happy to claim that you're being a racist for using those words.

kunst nugget

Deleted User wrote: »

Wroooong!!!!
you're getting it arseways, I'm commenting about the people who claim that the word is racist. And are happy to claim that you're being a racist for using those words.

If someone says that to you, tell them it's an urban myth and to stop being gullible spanners. I really don't see what the issue is.

osarusan

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm commenting about the people who claim that the word is racist.

Can you point out some examples of this happening in the world?

osarusan

osarusan wrote: »

Can you point out some examples of this happening in the world?

yes! but they are not documented.

osarusan

Deleted User wrote: »

yes! but they are not documented.

Isn't that convenient for you.

osarusan

osarusan wrote: »

Isn't that convenient for you.

It's very convenient for you as well

edit: google to the rescue, one of countless examples out there if you want to look. (About 192,000 results )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/1988952.stm

I do remember from my time in the Armed Forces when I was an instructor in electronics when we were no longer allowed to use the word "blackboard". A whiteboard was fine as was chalkboard. It seems one way traffic these days.

kunst nugget

Deleted User wrote: »

yes! but they are not documented.

Can't say I've ever heard this in real life myself. I must not be in contact with any looney left, libtard, sjws in my normal day to day ramblings.

I've two kids in school but they're all using interactive white boards these days. Don't worry though, I've told them that whiteboards are horribly racist as they celebrate mono-culture, imperalism and mansplaining. Also, I said if that if they get an incorrect answer based on a question from the whiteboard, it's not them that will be wrong. It will be the board that's wrong because it's white!

You can turn that into an urban myth if you want.

osarusan

Deleted User wrote: »

It's very convenient for you as well

edit: google to the rescue, one of countless examples out there if you want to look. (About 192,000 results )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/1988952.stm

That's not what I asked you for though - that's somebody's story about how PC was imposed on them.

There are countless examples of that alright. The Telegraph newspaper has an article about how labour councils in the UK banned the word in the 1980's, but that doesn't seem to be substantiated anywhere else. Yet, despite all these anecdotes, there doesn't seem to be any first-hand evidence of people actually thinking the word is racist.

I mean, can you show me evidence of somebody actually saying it (the 'PC advocates' you mentioned earlier), or instructing others that it should be avoided for that reason?

Maximus Alexander

Are we saying the word blackboard has been blacklisted?

dav3

Deleted User wrote: »

Myth or no myth, it's happened and we're stuck with it!
I've been told several times by younger people that it's "racist" to use the word blackboard.

Well known propaganda tactic is to tell the same lie often enough and it will eventually be taken as the truth.

What kind of conversations are you having with 'younger people' that the word backboard came up several times and is a racist term?

The one google search you provided is hearsay from over 14 years ago. The majority of searches point to it being an urban myth. An urban myth designed to outrage a typical daily mail reader who believes everything they read on the internet.

What's next? The word Christmas is banned? We may as well throw that urban myth into the pot too.

Political Correctness Urban Myths gone mad!

Maximus Alexander

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Are we saying the word blackboard has been blacklisted?

It will be a black day when that happens. I will have to roll down my black out blinds and black out all my internet streams for awhile to compensate.

Though on the plus side it will put me further in the black on electricity bills and internet costs. Which is great when you are niggardly. Then I can use the spare money to chase me down some noggers.

All this blackboard talk is very reminiscent of Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep