NEW 2016 Open and Interdepartmental Assistant Principal in Civil Service competition.

sodacake1968

High 80s in the open, high 50s in the inter. Not hopeful as Dublin does not suit

bobbysands81

coloneldecker wrote: »

How long is the panel open for?

Either 30th Sept or 31st October 2018... just can't remember which. Think it's the end of Oct next year.

Link3n

Is the panel start date not the date when the first offers/results are made?

bobbysands81

Link3n wrote: »

Is the panel start date not the date when the first offers/results are made?

The date was in some of the literature that PAS sent us at the very start of the process but I just don't have time to root it out at the mo.

Past30Now

bobbysands81 wrote: »

The date was in some of the literature that PAS sent us at the very start of the process but I just don't have time to root it out at the mo.

The last panel ran until 30 April, and they started processing the new panel in May, so I'd suggest 1 May being the start date.

coloneldecker

Past30Now wrote: »

The last panel ran until 30 April, and they started processing the new panel in May, so I'd suggest 1 May being the start date.

But when does it close, thats the important bit now?

coloneldecker

coloneldecker wrote: »

But when does it close, thats the important bit now?

31 October 2018, as per http://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/per/2016/26.pdf

salomon

coloneldecker wrote: »

But when does it close, thats the important bit now?

From the circular: It is
not envisaged that appointments will be made from this competition after 31 October, 2018.

terribletwos

Just rang to find my regional placing and the guy in PAS said they are not giving out regional placings for batch 2 as they will be no vacancies. It seems unfair to bring people up for interview if they know this is the case. Anybody else request regional placing for batch 2?

coloneldecker

So batch 2 was organised purely to get APs for Dublin?

Murraymint81

I would agree that batch 2 will be for Dublin vacancies. Although there are a few retirements at APO across the country due, just depends if they go once they have there 40yrs completed. I know of 2 APOs in a rural county that have over 40yrs done and are over 60 but have no intention of retiring.

gics

Even with any retirements there are A lot of people in batch one who have selected regional locations and will prob never get called, myself included. Movement at regional level is seriously limited and for any vacancies that do come up I would imagine they will fill by transfers first of people who took Dublin and waited out their three years and are now looking to get back.

Dolly1978

I rang PAS today re regional panel. The guy I spoke to said they hadn't that information as yet as it hadn't been passed to clearance as yet. He said they should be able to let me know as soon as it was. Was a very helpful guy and gave me the batch 1 panel numbers for my regions.

Dolly1978

Dolly1978 wrote: »

I rang PAS today re regional panel. The guy I spoke to said they hadn't that information as yet as it hadn't been passed to clearance as yet. He said they should be able to let me know as soon as it was. Was a very helpful guy and gave me the batch 1 panel numbers for my regions.

I'm in Batch 2 early teens

GenevaW

Does anyone know if PAS are going to ask people in Batch 1 if they'd consider Dublin even if they applied for 2 regional locations? I heard they did this for the first batch in the last HEO competition. I'm just trying to figure out when they could start on Batch 2.

coloneldecker

Has anybody asked for Dublin panel numbers at any stage?

Link3n

Apparently, up to 90 in Dublin. How many were called back for first Batch? Would 90 of them have had Dublin down on their selection?

coloneldecker

Do you mean in Batch 1 they have appointed 90 APs in Dublin or there were 90 on the Dublin panel altogether?

Link3n

I thought they said 90 were appointed so far. That is why I am confused, would 90 of the 128 from batch 1 have had Dublin down?
Maybe I took it up wrong.

gics

I believe they have reached around number 90 in the open panel for Dublin but this has meant that they have just passed over anyone who did not have Dublin selected so there have not been 90 jobs

Link3n

Thanks. That makes more sense.

coloneldecker

gics wrote: »

I believe they have reached around number 90 in the open panel for Dublin but this has meant that they have just passed over anyone who did not have Dublin selected so there have not been 90 jobs

But according to a poster here they are on 1?? on the open so they are beyond 90. It seems plausible to me that there were 90 of the 145 (thats the number I thought were on the panel after Batch 1 but not sure where I got that figure from so am open to correction) that had Dublin as one of their selections so maybe 90 was the total on the Dublin panel and they are still working on that before moving to Batch 2 with Dublin selections? Also I think I may be overthinking this!

gics

They have not yet reached everyone in batch one who has Dublin listed so although I'm not certain what number they are on there is still people on batch waiting for Dublin.

Link3n

gics wrote: »

They have not yet reached everyone in batch one who has Dublin listed so although I'm not certain what number they are on there is still people on batch waiting for Dublin.

So in other words anybody on batch 2 is goosed

bobbysands81

If there have been 90 posts filled in Dublin then they will be people who have turned down Dublin. I'd hazard a guess that they're at about 115 in the Open out of a total of just over 150 who placed on the Panel.

bobbysands81

Link3n wrote: »

So in other words anybody on batch 2 is goosed

Don't know about regional but most folk in Batch 2 will have a great chance of being offered a Dublin post.

Mama lion

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Don't know about regional but most folk in Batch 2 will have a great chance of being offered a Dublin post.

And this is the hope I'm clinging to 😊

Rosiebeans81

Any one have any news of movement on regional panels since? I know the Dublin offers have affected the Limerick panel by 2 places or so at least.

sodacake1968

Has anyone got the numbers for any regional locations

Dolly1978

sodacake1968 wrote: »

Has anyone got the numbers for any regional locations

There are 5 on the Galway panel and 8 on the Westmeath from batch 1

GenevaW

gics wrote: »

I believe they have reached around number 90 in the open panel for Dublin but this has meant that they have just passed over anyone who did not have Dublin selected so there have not been 90 jobs

coloneldecker wrote: »

But according to a poster here they are on 1?? on the open so they are beyond 90. It seems plausible to me that there were 90 of the 145 (thats the number I thought were on the panel after Batch 1 but not sure where I got that figure from so am open to correction) that had Dublin as one of their selections so maybe 90 was the total on the Dublin panel and they are still working on that before moving to Batch 2 with Dublin selections? Also I think I may be overthinking this!

I spoke with PAS earlier and they advised that they had reached 90 on Batch 1 but could not confirm how many of this number were for Dublin and how many remaining in Batch 1 were looking for Dublin so I'm baffled!

coloneldecker

This is more confusing then the etray!!

Past30Now

coloneldecker wrote: »

But according to a poster here they are on 1?? on the open so they are beyond 90. It seems plausible to me that there were 90 of the 145 (thats the number I thought were on the panel after Batch 1 but not sure where I got that figure from so am open to correction) that had Dublin as one of their selections so maybe 90 was the total on the Dublin panel and they are still working on that before moving to Batch 2 with Dublin selections? Also I think I may be overthinking this!

bobbysands81 wrote: »

If there have been 90 posts filled in Dublin then they will be people who have turned down Dublin. I'd hazard a guess that they're at about 115 in the Open out of a total of just over 150 who placed on the Panel.

I'm the guy at 10* on the panel. I'm being put through garda clearance but haven't got an offer yet.

I understand they have offered up to no 90 on the open list, but that might only be 70 jobs, in that 20 on the panel up to number 90 might have selected counties for which no offer has yet been made to them.

ammg

Anyone on the panel with Mayo down as their location of choice

sodacake1968

Looking for limerick and cork myself

dee75

Anyone hear of any more regional offers?

deskbottle

I'm number 1 for Galway but am taking a job in Dublin if that's any good to anyone.
Anyone know what the lay of the land is with DFA? Or how would one subtley find out?!!

Ecribbin

deskbottle wrote: »

I'm number 1 for Galway but am taking a job in Dublin if that's any good to anyone.
Anyone know what the lay of the land is with DFA? Or how would one subtley find out?!!

Not so subtle but I phoned DFA HR, they're only taking First Secs right now, they don't see any vacancies for APs coming but that doesn't mean there might not be someone leaving/retiring that they don't yet know about.

Ecribbin

FWIW, I was originally 133 on the panel with Dublin and Limerick as my regions.
I'm now #5 in Dublin and have been told I will be given a Dublin assignment this week or next.
If I got this right, there's currently 10 Dublin spots ready to be filled.

salomon

Ecribbin wrote: »

FWIW, I was originally 133 on the panel with Dublin and Limerick as my regions.
I'm now #5 in Dublin and have been told I will be given a Dublin assignment this week or next.
If I got this right, there's currently 10 Dublin spots ready to be filled.

I'm between 115 and 120 on the open for Dublin only so I'd be surprised to hear that there's only 5 between 115 and 133 with Dublin preferences.

Ah well, we live in hope and die in despair!

Riskymove

salomon wrote: »

I'm between 115 and 120 on the open for Dublin only so I'd be surprised to hear that there's only 5 between 115 and 133 with Dublin preferences.

Ah well, we live in hope and die in despair!

don't forget that many assigned from the interdeparmental were also on Open and may be already gone from Open panel

Murraymint81

Any idea what number interD is at?

salomon

Riskymove wrote: »

don't forget that many assigned from the interdeparmental were also on Open and may be already gone from Open panel

Oh I understand that but I'm interD too and unreached

gics

I'm sure if you ring them they will give you a general idea

ZolaGood

I have today turned down my Dublin offer officially so that's another one back in the pot. All hope now lie on 2/3 people retiring, getting promoted, taking a Brussels job, dying (not really !) in my regional preference in the next 16.5 months!!

gics

ZolaGood wrote: »

I have today turned down my Dublin offer officially so that's another one back in the pot. All hope now lie on 2/3 people retiring, getting promoted, taking a Brussels job, dying (not really !) in my regional preference in the next 16.5 months!!

Fingers crossed it works out for you.

Aoibhin84

I got 1,800 in the open, any chance of being called down the line?

Past30Now

Aoibhin84 wrote: »

I got 1,800 in the open, any chance of being called down the line?

No idea really, but given that they've called 450 to interview, and listed approx 300 (145+?), it must be unlikely.

salomon

Aoibhin84 wrote: »

I got 1,800 in the open, any chance of being called down the line?

180?

dee75

Can anyone tell me what would happen if someone got one offer (say in Dublin) and accepts it, are they then taken off the panel completely?

Or do they still stay on the panel for their second county?