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Dolly1978

gics wrote: »

What is it?

Pre clearance requesting the health declaration and Garda vetting forms I already brought along yo interview .

bobbysands81

gics wrote: »

What is it?

Pre-clearance for folks in Batch 2.

Not sure if everyone in Batch 2 has been contacted but surely a very positive sign that folk are being put through clearance?

EDIT - Everyone from Batch 2 is being asked for the documentation.

gics

I would say this is to facilitate the trickle of Dublin vacancies coming through. Judging from lack of updates from batch 1 seems to be no movement outside of Dublin

coloneldecker

Is Batch 1 emptied for Dublin posts?

gics

coloneldecker wrote: »

Is Batch 1 emptied for Dublin posts?

I think someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago that the last person on batch one had got their Dublin offer.

Killer K

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Pre-clearance for folks in Batch 2.

Not sure if everyone in Batch 2 has been contacted but surely a very positive sign that folk are being put through clearance?

EDIT - Everyone from Batch 2 is being asked for the documentation.

What is positive is that the message states:

'We hope to be in a position to contact you within 6 weeks with an update on your application'.

ZolaGood

coloneldecker wrote: »

Is Batch 1 emptied for Dublin posts?

Nope cos I got a call today about my InterD Dublin offer as the one I turned down was an open one

gics

ZolaGood wrote: »

coloneldecker wrote: »

Is Batch 1 emptied for Dublin posts?

Nope cos I got a call today about my InterD Dublin offer as the one I turned down was an open one

Apologies, I forgot effectively a serving civil servant could have two offers for each region unless of course they accept one. I'm assuming you turned it down? No word on your region yet?

coloneldecker

ZolaGood wrote: »

Nope cos I got a call today about my InterD Dublin offer as the one I turned down was an open one

But it still could be emptied of everyone prepared to accept a Dublin offer couldn't it? Your offer (assuming you turned down Dublin again?) may now go to Batch 2 as there was nobody else left on Batch 1 who had selected Dublin and not had an offer.

bobbysands81

ZolaGood wrote: »

coloneldecker wrote: »

Is Batch 1 emptied for Dublin posts?

Nope cos I got a call today about my InterD Dublin offer as the one I turned down was an open one

Whereabouts did you finish on the Panel?

(Obviously not looking for exact placing.)

ZolaGood

40's inter D 80's open-will be turning it down though

You are right it's likely to go to batch 2 as I'm sure anyone after me on inter d is waiting for regions or placed already

No budge on my region but I live in hope

Killer K

Have many on here applied for the Open PO competition?

coloneldecker

Is it normal that they send out these forms to the entire panel in one go or should this be seen as confidence on PAS's part that are going to get through a lot or all of this batch?

dee75

Got a call with a regional offer this week. Just waiting for vetting forms to come and will hear what department or office it is in a week or two.

Can't believe it as thought there would be little or no movement on regional placing! 😀

I won't say here what county it is but if you look back at earlier postings by me you'll see my two counties....

gics

dee75 wrote: »

Got a call with a regional offer this week. Just waiting for vetting forms to come and will hear what department or office it is in a week or two.

Can't believe it as thought there would be little or no movement on regional placing! 😀

I won't say here what county it is but if you look back at earlier postings by me you'll see my two counties....

Wow congratulations. Great to hear of movement in regions.

ZolaGood

gics wrote: »

dee75 wrote: »

Got a call with a regional offer this week. Just waiting for vetting forms to come and will hear what department or office it is in a week or two.

Can't believe it as thought there would be little or no movement on regional placing! 😀

I won't say here what county it is but if you look back at earlier postings by me you'll see my two counties....

Wow congratulations. Great to hear of movement in regions.

Congratulations Dee...delighted you have been sorted...my hope in the regional panels is restored

GorSin

That's great news. Congratulations. There's hope for us yet

ammg

I'm hearing of one coming to Mayo - currently going through vetting so I assume someone on here must be on the Mayo panel

gics

Has anyone heard anything more on regional locations?

SpinningDizzy

The DSP internal AP results are out today so that may impact on the open/interdepartmental vacancies.

Killer K

SpinningDizzy wrote: »

The DSP internal AP results are out today so that may impact on the open/interdepartmental vacancies.

I take it that they may positively impact by selecting people off existing inter/open panels?

SpinningDizzy

Killer K wrote: »

I take it that they may positively impact by selecting people off existing inter/open panels?

That's what I meant

GenevaW

I phoned PAS earlier and apparently they are up to the 30s on Batch 2!

They couldn't confirm which streams these were from, e.g. if it was 15 from both the interdep and open, as it depends on the Dept. I assume this might be because some Depts "owe" PAS and specifically need people from a particular stream.

Positive update though!

CP30

That is good news. Anyone know how many are on the panel for batch 2?

Killer K

CP30 wrote: »

That is good news. Anyone know how many are on the panel for batch 2?

I asked that question on here a while back and nobody knows. Emailed PAS and was told that they won't release that information until the panel ends.

Killer K

GenevaW wrote: »

I phoned PAS earlier and apparently they are up to the 30s on Batch 2!

They couldn't confirm which streams these were from, e.g. if it was 15 from both the interdep and open, as it depends on the Dept. I assume this might be because some Depts "owe" PAS and specifically need people from a particular stream.

Positive update though!

Very positive. If they were to keep going at a similar rate surely a third batch would need to be called.

CP30

Killer K wrote: »

Very positive. If they were to keep going at a similar rate surely a third batch would need to be called.

Yes that's what I'm hoping for!!!

ammg

Me too!!!!

coloneldecker

GenevaW wrote: »

I phoned PAS earlier and apparently they are up to the 30s on Batch 2!

They couldn't confirm which streams these were from, e.g. if it was 15 from both the interdep and open, as it depends on the Dept. I assume this might be because some Depts "owe" PAS and specifically need people from a particular stream.

Positive update though!

30 seems like a lot given the forms were only due back last week but great if its true. Has anyone on here actually received an offer from Batch 2?

Killer K

coloneldecker wrote: »

30 seems like a lot given the forms were only due back last week but great if its true. Has anyone on here actually received an offer from Batch 2?

Were these forms not requested at the time of interview and last week's deadline more for what one would assume are smaller numbers who did not submit the form originally?

coloneldecker

Killer K wrote: »

Were these forms not requested at the time of interview and last week's deadline more for what one would assume are smaller numbers who did not submit the form originally?

I don't remember being asked for them at the time of the interview but I guess that's possible, it wouldn't be unlike me to wipe info like that from my brain!

gics

Only external candidates would have been asked at interview. Internal departmental only asked after the panel is created.

Killer K

gics wrote: »

Only external candidates would have been asked at interview. Internal departmental only asked after the panel is created.

Thanks for that. Would internal candidates need to go through same process even though they are already serving civil servants? Just trying to understand rationale.

gics

Depending on the department they may need a higher level of security checks from their current department, normally justice, and they would so need to complete the health declaration.

GenevaW

coloneldecker wrote: »

I don't remember being asked for them at the time of the interview but I guess that's possible, it wouldn't be unlike me to wipe info like that from my brain!

I was definitely asked - my message from PAS requested 3 forms; however, if you were an existing civil servant, you only needed to bring the health declaration with you.

LucyLou2017

As poster above said, all candidates recieved an email listing forms to bring to interview - E vetting, health declaration and employer reference if you are an external candidate. If you are an existing civil servant you just needed to provide the Health devlaration. I was asked for mine when I checked in for interview.

On another note, I rang PAS today . They have placed the low numbers off Panel 2 in Dublin (she didnt know how many!) to fill the end of the backlogged vacancies. They expect it to slow down a bit now until Depts come forward with vacancies. Apparently Sept is a busy month as Depts scurry to use up budgets before year end so fingers crossed!

They also said its likely that a third batch and maybe more will be called given that the comp runs till Oct 2018 but they just dont have exact timeframes at the moment.

Killer K

LucyLou2017 wrote: »

As poster above said, all candidates recieved an email listing forms to bring to interview - E vetting, health declaration and employer reference if you are an external candidate. If you are an existing civil servant you just needed to provide the Health devlaration. I was asked for mine when I checked in for interview.

On another note, I rang PAS today . They have placed the low numbers off Panel 2 in Dublin (she didnt know how many!) to fill the end of the backlogged vacancies. They expect it to slow down a bit now until Depts come forward with vacancies. Apparently Sept is a busy month as Depts scurry to use up budgets before year end so fingers crossed!

They also said its likely that a third batch and maybe more will be called given that the comp runs till Oct 2018 but they just dont have exact timeframes at the moment.

Fair play Lucylou. That is very positive news!

LucyLou2017

Yeah i think so! I dont mimd the wait once something is on the horizon for us all!

paul3581

LucyLou2017 wrote: »

As poster above said, all candidates recieved an email listing forms to bring to interview - E vetting, health declaration and employer reference if you are an external candidate. If you are an existing civil servant you just needed to provide the Health devlaration. I was asked for mine when I checked in for interview.

On another note, I rang PAS today . They have placed the low numbers off Panel 2 in Dublin (she didnt know how many!) to fill the end of the backlogged vacancies. They expect it to slow down a bit now until Depts come forward with vacancies. Apparently Sept is a busy month as Depts scurry to use up budgets before year end so fingers crossed!

They also said its likely that a third batch and maybe more will be called given that the comp runs till Oct 2018 but they just dont have exact timeframes at the moment.

I am in the top 10 on panel 2 and haven't heard anything except for the health and garda forms that everyone got. Presumably that will take a few weeks to clear...

Killer K

paul3581 wrote: »

I am in the top 10 on panel 2 and haven't heard anything except for the health and garda forms that everyone got. Presumably that will take a few weeks to clear...

Hi Paul, I am assuming you had Dublin as one of your options?

paul3581

Killer K wrote: »

Hi Paul, I am assuming you had Dublin as one of your options?

Yep, I only put down Dublin, wouldn't want to be straying outside the Pale now... ðŸ˜႒

coloneldecker

paul3581 wrote: »

Yep, I only put down Dublin, wouldn't want to be straying outside the Pale now... ðŸ˜႒

So that 30 figure from PAS was nonsense anyway!

Killer K

coloneldecker wrote: »

So that 30 figure from PAS was nonsense anyway!

Yes, it appears like it was unfortunately!

Killer K

I have PMed a couple of people on here that had posted they were under 30 in batch 2 and neither of them have received any notification from PAS re an offer.

However, still remaining positive that batch 2 candidates will be offered pre October 2018.

LucyLou2017

That's really strange that PAS are telling people that candidates have been placed from Panel 2 of they haven't!

Maybe someone else could ring today to confirm? I don't want to call up again.

Killer K

LucyLou2017 wrote: »

That's really strange that PAS are telling people that candidates have been placed from Panel 2 of they haven't!

Maybe someone else could ring today to confirm? I don't want to call up again.

I did just that now. Spoke to a really helpful guy there. So what appears to be the case is that there are 30 vacancies to be filled (none of them filled yet) from candidates in batch 2. This should happen in the next while (no indications on timeframes given).

So previous posts are not off the mark.

coloneldecker

Killer K wrote: »

I did just that now. Spoke to a really helpful guy there. So what appears to be the case is that there are 30 vacancies to be filled (none of them filled yet) from candidates in batch 2. This should happen in the next while (no indications on timeframes given).

So previous posts are not off the mark.

Was there any indication that they might be able to give info on whee people sit on regional/Dublin panels?

Killer K

coloneldecker wrote: »

Was there any indication that they might be able to give info on whee people sit on regional/Dublin panels?

No Colonel, that is one question that I didn't ask. Do we have any estimate roughly on how may opt for two regional locations in general? We could apply that.

Alternatively it is another phone call..

My HR got contacted by PAS last week and asked about my PMDS, sick leave record etc. I am way down on the panels, so I am assuming PAS is doing checks for everyone from batch 2 at the moment.

Dreaming of better things

raffles wrote: »

My HR got contacted by PAS last week and asked about my PMDS, sick leave record etc. I am way down on the panels, so I am assuming PAS is doing checks for everyone from batch 2 at the moment.

Do you have Dublin down as an option or 2 regional counties? I'm in top ten on batch 2 and haven't heard anything.