Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

He was contracted until 2020 anyway iirc so it's effectively a two year extension, payrise & no release clause.

So we should see £50m+ if he leaves

Sappy404

Augeo wrote: »

He was contracted until 2020 anyway iirc so it's effectively a two year extension, payrise & no release clause.

So we should see £50m+ if he leaves

What makes you think there's no release clause?

Riesen_Meal

Sappy404 wrote: »

What makes you think there's no release clause?

Was mentioned yesterday...

Sure Luis did the same before he went...

Sappy404

Sappy404 wrote: »

What makes you think there's no release clause?

Someone in here said so
I have no clue personally but realistically it matters little IMO

Fieldog

Fieldog wrote: »

.........

Sure Luis did the same before he went...

True, but coutinho signing on with us until 2022 really puts the club in a great position should he move on in the next couple of years negotiation wise.

Riesen_Meal

Augeo wrote: »

True, but coutinho signing on with us until 2022 really puts the club in a great position should he move on in the next couple of years negotiation wise.

Exactly, let's just hope we at least get CL at this stage and he stays for a while...

Fieldog

Fieldog wrote: »

....... let's just hope we at least get CL at this stage and he stays for a while...

To be fair to Klopp and the squad on the first half of the season they really don't deserve to be pr1cking about in the EL next season, as you say hopefully we get CL for next season

MD1990

I think with Coutinho & having Klopp as manager we have a much better chance of keeping our star player than we have in the past.

It would take a huge offer for him to leave. If Pogba cost 89m I would want 100m for Coutinho.

Agent Coulson

So expect low ball bids before 1st of July then

There is no release clause in Coutinho's new contract, the terms of which come into effect from 1 July.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38741844?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport

J Mysterio

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Origi and Can are two kids that need time.
People talk of Can like he's some seasoned pro, Stewart is older.

Can isnt a kid. He's 23 and has 7 German caps. He's had plenty of time, he needs to start putting in performances now.

BorneTobyWilde

J Mysterio wrote: »

Can isnt a kid. He's 23 and has 7 German caps. He's had plenty of time, he needs to start putting in performances now.

He's not a machine either
Could rest him and play Lallana in his preferred position
Can has played all the games over Xmas and all the cup game and all the league games this year.
He was brilliant against United. I'm sure if he was left out of next game he would be stronger for it going forward.
You could argue that in fact it was a mistake playing him against Swansea.

Fitz*

Lallana has to play CM tonight instead of Can.

I would go with Hendo - Lallana -Gini - Coutinho - Firmino - Ojo

We badly lack pace and directness upfront in that wide right area and Origi is not the answer and Sturridge couldn't give a flying f**k at the moment. His head is gone, like did he even touch the ball on Saturday. Also, playing either Sturridge or Origi means shunting Firmino out wide and you lose the best of both Coutinho & Firmino by doing that. Ojo has the natural pace that may hurt Southampton, can help stretch the field and create space in the middle and maybe even the surprise factor.

Having Lallana up front slows down our attacking movement and play, which is odd as he adds to it while in the middle. He is crucial to our centre mid play at this stage.

Of course that might have to change if Clyne is out again tonight as the rumours suggestm

murpho999

Good news about Coutinho and a boost to show that he believes in what Klopp is doing and the direction we're going. Remember we're only on year 2 and not the finished article yet.

I assume that Matip will start tonight?

8-10

mada999 wrote: »

Turtyturd wrote: »

Still won't stop all the Football Manager lads on here crying 'Spend! Spend! Spend!'

The crux of the matter is that we should have signed more in the summer as we knew mane was going and also Ings got injured...

Ings didn't get injured until October though

Bandana boy

Could be a wind up but apparently Sakho to China for 53M

Pyjamarama

Bandana boy wrote: »

Could be a wind up but apparently Sakho to China for 53M

Had to be given we'd sell him for 20m.

Agent Coulson

Jaysus if we could get £53m for Sakho we might get double that for Daniel lol

Pyjamarama

8-10 wrote: »

Ings didn't get injured until October though

Yup. And we signed enough players in the summer. We tried to sign two more but they weren't for sale. I'd rather we wait to get the right ones than sign some jobber for the sake of it.

Kimbot

Bandana boy wrote: »

Could be a wind up but apparently Sakho to China for 53M

As much as I would like to see him in the side if that money id true then ship him out get that Dahdoud chap in and another top CB and we are golden

mormank

Turtyturd wrote: »

Not saying I disagree with you in some cases but just to clarify they're your words, not mine.



Again, I never called them morons or made generalisations about all football manager or Fifa players ( I occasionally play myself). I did suggest that some see real life negotiations as being as straight forward as those in the games.

Again, that's exactly what you did. And I quote "Still won't stop all the Football Manager lads on here crying 'Spend! Spend! Spend!'".
I have highlighted the word all to illustrate that that is exactly what you did actually, I appreciate the backtracking but you should at least stand by what you said, or take greater care in wording your posts.
If anything having played both Fifa and Football manager over the years has given me a greater understanding of how these things work, at least the process etc. I'm not stupid enough to assume that real life is like a computer game tho and don't appreciate you or anyone else suggesting/implying that tbh.

Blondie919

murpho999 wrote: »

Good news about Coutinho and a boost to show that he believes in what Klopp is doing and the direction we're going. Remember we're only on year 2 and not the finished article yet.

I assume that Matip will start tonight?

I hope Klopp is still leading us when Coutinho gets to his final year of the contract.

mormank

Fieldog wrote: »

Was mentioned yesterday...

Sure Luis did the same before he went...

I don't know about anyone else but when Suarez signed his extension stipulating that he would get a big pay rise starting the following summer, that was the moment I knew he would be leaving in the summer. I mean, who signs a contract extension like that?

mormank

mormank wrote: »

...........who signs a contract extension like that?

Coutinho for one

mormank

Augeo wrote: »

Coutinho for one

Has he? I haven't had a chance to read up on the details. If so I'm not so worried. We all knew Suarez was leaving soon at the time anyway so having that in his contract narrowed down the timeframe for me. With Coutinho things would seem very different, but I could be wrong.

5starpool

mormank wrote: »

Has he? I haven't had a chance to read up on the details. If so I'm not so worried. We all knew Suarez was leaving soon at the time anyway so having that in his contract narrowed down the timeframe for me. With Coutinho things would seem very different, but I could be wrong.

Suarez had a cast iron release clause though, Coutinho doesn't by all accounts.

brevity

Contacts don't mean ****.

If an offer of €60m comes in and Coutinho wants to leave then there is **** all that can be done really.

As it is he seems happy enough so that's good for Liverpool but I wouldn't be fooled by these release clauses. It's just another bull**** term to appease people.

TitianGerm

brevity wrote: »

Contacts don't mean ****.

If an offer of €60m comes in and Coutinho wants to leave then there is **** all that can be done really.

As it is he seems happy enough so that's good for Liverpool but I wouldn't be fooled by these release clauses. It's just another bull**** term to appease people.

I'd say he's worth more than €60m with the way transfer fees have gone.

Blondie919

I'd say the chances of Coutinho scoring 1 or 2 tonight in celebration of his new deal are fairly good. No doubt it will lift the team too.

rob316

brevity wrote: »

Contacts don't mean ****.

If an offer of €60m comes in and Coutinho wants to leave then there is **** all that can be done really.

As it is he seems happy enough so that's good for Liverpool but I wouldn't be fooled by these release clauses. It's just another bull**** term to appease people.

€60m? The bar has been set with Pogba, Liverpool wouldn't be foolish to except any less. If there is genuinely no release clause then Coutinho is happy to stay at Liverpool as otherwise he has handed over a lot of power to the club. His agent is Kia, I'm surprised he left him sign a contract like this TBH.

Harry Palmr

The point about release clauses is not to stop a player leaving it's to stop bull**** offers for A grade players who are happy at their club and that's all in my view. If Coutinho were unhappy then he'd look to leave and the offers made would reflect that.

mosstin

Harry Palmr wrote: »

The point about release clauses is not to stop a player leaving it's to stop bull**** offers for A grade players who are happy at their club and that's all in my view. If Coutinho were unhappy then he'd look to leave and the offers made would reflect that.

Arsenal again, eh?

Harry Palmr

Wenger would love Coutinho to replace someone like Walcott or even Santi Cazorla

mosstin

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Wenger would love Coutinho to replace someone like Walcott or even Santi Cazorla

Whoever he's likely to join in the future, it will not be Arsenal.

Gbear

Liverpool team: Karius, Alexander-Arnold, Lovren, Matip, Milner, Henderson, Can, Lallana, Coutinho, Firmino, Sturridge.

Subs: Mignolet, Moreno, Lucas, Origi, Klavan, Woodburn, Wijnaldum.

No complaints with that.

ricero

An early goal tonight will put the nerves at ease and fire up the crowd even more. Happy enough with the side and a big chance for sturridge to come good when its needed

~Rebel~

Would have preferred Wijnaldum or Ejaria in midfield instead of Can, but otherwise happy enough.

Turtyturd

Would've preferred Origi starting, especially after Sturridge's 'performance' on Saturday.

What's the deal with Clyne?

Osmosis Jones

Happy enough to see a full strength team, they'll be rested at the weekend anyway.

mosstin

Turtyturd wrote: »

Would've preferred Origi starting, especially after Sturridge's 'performance' on Saturday.

What's the deal with Clyne?

Heard it was a rib injury - one of those annoying injuries that need nursing.

Potential Underachiever

Glad to see Matip back, not so glad that Clyne misses out again. I'd have preferred Gini over Can but either way good to see Lallana being deployed a bit deeper.

redzerdrog

Very happy with that team. It's still strong while also giving Can and Sturridge a chance to play themselves into a bit of form.
More game time for TAA and Karius aswell to help their development.
First choice cb pairing back together.

Agent Coulson

Daniel back while keeping a straight face Good player! haha I love Klopp.

Vicxas

Van Djyk out. Real blow for them.

Charlie19

Vicxas wrote: »

Van Djyk out. Real blow for them.

I just found out that Fonte signed for the hammers. That was a nice boost.

murpho999

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Daniel back while keeping a straight face Good player! haha I love Klopp.

I've never seen anybody criticise one of our own players so much.

I think you'd be happy to see him fail and Liverpool go out so that you can come here and gloat.

Turtyturd

2 poor decisions from him there, could've played Firmino in but chose to run into players, and a shot straight at the keeper.

murpho999

Turtyturd wrote: »

2 poor decisions from him there, could've played Firmino in but chose to run into players, and a shot straight at the keeper.

That can happen. Do you expect him to score every chance?

His moves are being over analysed and critiqued.

Potential Underachiever

murpho999 wrote: »

That can happen. Do you expect him to score every chance.

His moves are being over analysed and critiqued.

Brothers be chucklin, innit.

Firmino also shot at the keeper and ran into players instead of playing in Sturridge, Coutinho just shot from 40 yards, lets nitpick every tiny little thing?

Turtyturd

murpho999 wrote: »

That can happen. Do you expect him to score every chance.

His moves are being over analysed and critiqued.

I rarely expect him to score these days tbh.

He seems reluctant to pass to Firmino or any player he considers competition. It's a lack of professionalism that contributes to him not being likeable.

mosstin

Can and Henderson - the yin and the yin of our midfield.