Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Kerrigooney

Augeo wrote: »

The gutter press drove Suarez out?

They tried their best.

Potential Underachiever

I just looked up the Alli incident now, I had presumed he must have bit someone seeing a Suarez was mentioned, I was disappointed, it was just a filthy tackle, how that would make you relate that to Suarez and gutter press I honestly don't know what the thought process must have been.

Kerrigooney

Kerrigooney wrote: »

All that outrage when Suarez bit someone but what Dele Alli did tonight was ten times worse imo...I wonder will the English gutter press drive him out as well? I won't be holding my breath.

A ridiculous tackle is certainly worse than a bite as you can end a career with a bad one.

A bite is scummier I guess and that's why it's perceived as worse. Same as a spit.

There were clowns wanted Suarez banned for life for his bite. Imagine all the brilliance they've had missed.

OwaynOTT

Kerrigooney wrote: »

He seems to be "reacting" quite a lot lately. There's something in every other game with him...not at tonights level but he loses the head way too easily.

I hope you know I was being ironic or sarcastic, whichever one I was and I was definitely being either glib or flippant.
Maybe all four of the above. Facetious even.

Turtyturd

5starpool wrote: »

It was mostly tongue in cheek because it was just you thanking all his posts, even though I've generally come to have a sneaky soft spot for your style of 'bantz'.

I've said it before that there are 4 main people involved in the back and forth with both sides as irritating as the other in lots of ways. There are other peripheral figures but I think any regular reader/contributor would be able to name the main few involved. Having said that though I've noticed less of it from one of the main 4 (as I'd have categorised them) has engaged much less in it recently. I think everyone just wants it to stop.

Anyhow, football.

I'd make an educated guess that you're referring to me here.

I'd like to highlight that I haven't engaged with Bill or Ben in a long time and it's their raging hard ons and need to quote every post that drags the thread off topic. Maybe the mods could look into some option that would mean they don't have to react to my posts.

Turtyturd

RoboKlopp wrote: »

A ridiculous tackle is certainly worse than a bite as you can end a career with a bad one.

A bite is scummier I guess and that's why it's perceived as worse. Same as a spit.

There were clowns wanted Suarez banned for life for his bite. Imagine all the brilliance they've had missed.

Even worse, some of these were Liverpool fans.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

mormank wrote: »

Here you are claiming how you were on the right side of things and like you have a white flag tagged to your mast, nothing is ever your fault of course. :rolleyes: The part in bold is part of the problem if you ask me. A general lack of respect for other people's opinion's is exactly what you are complaining about and yet you are guilty of it yourself. Anyway I'm not in any clique as far as I know but seriously if everyone could just stop using such derogatory language about eachother's posts that would be a start.

Annnnnnnyyway, Leicester have sacked Claudio?? I can't understand the timing of this after that great result in Sevilla but I can't help but wonder if the timing is horrendous for us. I was happy to take on Ranieri's team next in the league, now who know's what they will be like. I'm gonna keep my fingers crossed that they don't rally until after our match, if they do at all...

Jaysus. Great use of the roll eyes there mormank. Really mature way to get your point across. I'll think you will find that nothing in my post was untrue yet you're gone off on some mad tangent about white flags tagged to a mast?

But what I have noticed is everytime I post you seem to pull on your Anti-Cobb superhero outfit and try to chastise me for any perceived injustices I might have inflicted on the thread.

You might want to ease up on the obsession buddy.

Kerrigooney

OwaynOTT wrote: »

I hope you know I was being ironic or sarcastic, whichever one I was and I was definitely being either glib or flippant.
Maybe all four of the above. Facetious even.

I was tired and didn't realise. I should have

OwaynOTT

Kerrigooney wrote: »

I was tired and didn't realise. I should have

It was your reaction at fault not you.
I see Spurs manager is defending him, using the whole 'he should of had a free' line and that he reacted poorly.
BT's Glenn hoddle was doing the same during half time.

marklazarcovic

What the actual fcuk is wrong with you people?.

Pages of who said what to who, primary school stuff.

marklazarcovic

Dele is a scrote,a player I'm disgusted we didn't sign,still a scrote,needs to be more clever

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

I'd make an educated guess that you're referring to me here.

I'd like to highlight that I haven't engaged with Bill or Ben in a long time and it's their raging hard ons and need to quote every post that drags the thread off topic. Maybe the mods could look into some option that would mean they don't have to react to my posts.

Probably because you're on a yellow.
Although you still engage, the Bill or Ben jibe is nothing less than a veiled insult/dig again.

Two days before your yellow, bud...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=102593039&postcount=9010

brevity

Gbear wrote: »

Well there's a whole load of problems with this video.
There's some merit to the idea, if for no other reason than because none of our players are the best players around in their position, so everyone could theoretically be upgraded on, but there's a lot of bad chains of logic.

One issue is using stats where he shouldn't and not using stats where he should.

He's comparing stats on players who nominally fulfill similar roles but because they're in wildly different systems and teams playing at very different levels there's only so much you can tell with the stats.

Take Kanté - Chelsea have 6% less possession on average than we do.
I don't have the stats to hand but I'd also imagine that they play a lot deeper as well.
That'll affect his stats - tackles, interceptions, distance he's required to cover, the type of running required, the areas of the pitch he has to play football in and the style of passing he has to use.

"He doesn't want to take any risks"

Unlike, say Chelsea, who play with a back 3, and largely sit fairly deep and counter-attack we've a back two and two full backs who play as wingers.
We play enough suicidal football as it is.

Then he's comparing the passing abilities of Hendo with literally the two best DMs in the world and players who'd cost £50m+ a pop.

He's also ignoring the difference in the options the two players have in front of them.
Kante, for example, is more likely to be playing against teams who give more space than they do against us, because he'll be more likely to be breaking, which suits his ability to carry the ball.

Busquets, in addition to obviously being a better footballer, also has the advantage that the lads he's passing to have glue attached to their boots.

Then, on the other hand, he cherry picks a few clips of Henderson miscontrolling the ball and uses it to make an argument that he's too **** a to play the position, when here it's important to give at least some context into the breakdown of their passing; the length, the pace of the ball, the areas of the pitch it's taking place in, etc.



Mascherano couldn't dribble either, and his passing was worse than Hendo's.
He was still a brilliant DM.

There's no magic formula for who should play where and what skills are vital for which position.
There's more than one way to skin a cat and just because Hendo can't dribble like Kanté, or pass like literally the best DMs in the world, doesn't mean he isn't a good option there.
It didn't stop us from having our joint best first half of the league in 25 years.

That's not to say you couldn't or shouldn't get a more orthodox or specialised DM in, but it's not the be all and end all, it wouldn't necessarily be better overall or against every opponent and it wouldn't be the only way to solve the more general problems that he outlines.

If you want to fix your attack against packed defences, you have no recognised senior striker at the club and only one winger, and the solution you're coming up with is "buy a DM" I think you need to have a word with yourself.

There are definitely flaws with the video but he has compared Hendo to players that would be less experienced rather than just Busquets.

I think the biggest concern is what he does when he has time on the ball. Coutinho and Firminio, while obviously not as good as Messi, should be well able to receive the ball in a tight area but Henderson can't make the pass. The opposition know that the can give him time on the ball (when Liverpool are not in a counter attacking position) because he will play an easy pass. When Liverpool are in a counter attacking position, they can pressure him as he will panic and pass back to the keeper or to a full back.

I don't think buying a DM is the solution to all Liverpool's woes but getting a good one and moving Henderson out of that position would be a good start.

brevity

brevity wrote: »

.........
I think the biggest concern is what he does when he has time on the ball. Coutinho and Firminio, while obviously not as good as Messi, should be well able to receive the ball in a tight area but Henderson can't make the pass..............

Mane missing really showed the issue IMO.
Without Mane's speed on the wing we need to feed Lallana, Coutinho & Firmino the ball smartly to make best use of them ............. we don't more often than not.

With Mane there he can make runs or travel with the ball so that causes the opposition problems so the CM problem isn't overly prevalent.

Knex*

Does anyone remember Tony Barrett's article from a year or two ago that highlighted how when teams exceed their expectations and over perform, the following season they seemingly under perform, and you see a return to the norm, of sorts.

I think he wrote it when we had the poor season following the title challenge with Rodgers, but he had a bunch of examples.

Be interested in reading it again in light of the Leicester stuff at the moment.

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

...............

Be interested in reading it again in light of the Leicester stuff at the moment.

Or in light of the first half of this season for us.
6 pts from 18 in 2017 so far.

Knex*

Augeo wrote: »

Or in light of the first half of this season for us.
6 pts from 18 in 2017 so far.

Ha, true. Hadn't even thought of that.

If we do recapture our early season form (or close to it) now that we are back to a game a week & more or less full squad, Mane back etc that'd be great.

If we don't however (and I'm not at all convinced we will), than you'd think we might really struggle next year with EL added to the mix.

Potential Underachiever

Turtyturd wrote: »

I'd make an educated guess that you're referring to me here.

I'd like to highlight that I haven't engaged with Bill or Ben in a long time and it's their raging hard ons and need to quote every post that drags the thread off topic. Maybe the mods could look into some option that would mean they don't have to react to my posts.

I'd like to highlight this post as bollock talk, you may have fooled plenty of your internet buddies but you engage the whole time with subtle, petty little jabs, you seem to talk about 4 things on here,Doughboy, Man Utd, Arsenal and Sturridge that's it,Liverpool barely get a mention, yet here you are claiming to be a saint, f off.

You see yourself as the thread wise guy or some such and I guess your internet buddies can take blame for encouraging it, funny as a dose of hemorrhoids imo.

Harry Palmr

Turtyturd is licensed to "be impish". I tend to think anyone who doesn't get him is better off not being on the internet at all, it suggests they are clearly far too literal to get his shtick.

Agent Coulson

Got the line up for the U23's Harry

Harry Palmr

I've got your on ignore so didn't see your little dig at me :pac:

#offendedonbehalfofmyselfandallinternetsnowflakes

(bloody youth teams don't kick a ball until Tuesday)

brevity

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Turtyturd is licensed to "be impish". I tend to think anyone who doesn't get him is better off not being on the internet at all, it suggests they are clearly far too literal to get his shtick.

The Luis Suarez of the football forum.

Potential Underachiever

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Turtyturd is licensed to "be impish". I tend to think anyone who doesn't get him is better off not being on the internet at all, it suggests they are clearly far too literal to get his shtick.

Your post is missing a 'g'

callaway92

Best way to get home tickets for a non-red member?

callaway92

callaway92 wrote: »

Best way to get home tickets for a non-red member?

LFC Tickets thread on here is a good start. Face value sales from genuine members.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

.............they are clearly far too literal to get his shtick.

Once he keeps his shtick away from me I'm happy.

OwaynOTT

brevity wrote: »

The Luis Suarez of the football forum.

Is that Turtyturd?

OwaynOTT

Hit me with your jibbing shtick

citytillidie

This thread for the past few days

Harry Palmr

It's more like Lord of the Flies, this is what happens when we're left to our own devices.

#Kloppout.

mormank

Amanda Tasteless Lanyard wrote: »

Jaysus. Great use of the roll eyes there mormank. Really mature way to get your point across. I'll think you will find that nothing in my post was untrue yet you're gone off on some mad tangent about white flags tagged to a mast?

But what I have noticed is everytime I post you seem to pull on your Anti-Cobb superhero outfit and try to chastise me for any perceived injustices I might have inflicted on the thread.

You might want to ease up on the obsession buddy.

Sure.

Glico Man

mormank wrote: »

Sure.

Just the man...

You can tick Süle off your list at least.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100205634&postcount=6270

Now the waiting game for Tielemans. Surely theres no way he'll be at Anderlecht beyond this year.

mormank

Glico Man wrote: »

Just the man...

You can tick Süle off your list at least.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100205634&postcount=6270

Now the waiting game for Tielemans. Surely theres no way he'll be at Anderlecht beyond this year.

Hi. What happened to Sule? Unless he died or something there is still penty of time for him to end up at a big club so not sure what you mean tbh, besides nobody took me up on that bet. Please don't tell me you have been waiting 8 months for an "I told you so"??

Potential Underachiever

mormank wrote: »

Hi. What happened to Sule? Unless he died or something there is still penty of time for him to end up at a big club so not sure what you mean tbh, besides nobody took me up on that bet. Please don't tell me you have been waiting 8 months for an "I told you so"??

Seems like Sule is on his way to Bayern at the end of the season, so your prediction was right, I think you were getting a compliment rather than a I told you so....

Glico Man

mormank wrote: »

Hi. What happened to Sule? Unless he died or something there is still penty of time for him to end up at a big club so not sure what you mean tbh, besides nobody took me up on that bet. Please don't tell me you have been waiting 8 months for an "I told you so"??

He's off to Bayern this summer :P

Nay nay, I've kept it bookmarked out of interest more than anything tbh.

D0NNELLY

citytillidie wrote: »

This thread for the past few days
https://media.giphy.com/media/MXApm8NraO5Jm/giphy.gif

Luckily the links show up in blue so are easily spotted while scrolling past the digs, sniping, expert opinions, combined 11s, etc etc etc

Buford T. Justice XIX

Would it be remiss of me to suggest both sides putting the ones on each side who annoy them on ignore so the rest can post without the sniping interfering with the flow of conversation?

Seems the easiest solution to the crapfest, really.

D0NNELLY

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Would it be remiss of me to suggest both sides putting the ones on each side who annoy them on ignore so the rest can post without the sniping interfering with the flow of conversation?

Seems the easiest solution to the crapfest, really.

Problem is, they're here for the digs. Pool come second.

mormank

Glico Man wrote: »

He's off to Bayern this summer :P

Nay nay, I've kept it bookmarked out of interest more than anything tbh.

Good man. I had forgotten about that post tbh but having read it again I totally stand by it. Off to Bayern eh? No surprises there then. Tielemans I am supremely confident will end up at a big club too. In fact, everyone on that list will imo.
Maybe if I am right about all 5 players all the FIFA/Champ manager haters will be big enough to admit they were wrong. Doubt it tho.

mormank

Potential Underachiever wrote: »

Seems like Sule is on his way to Bayern at the end of the season, so your prediction was right, I think you were getting a compliment rather than a I told you so....

Ya I realise that now, it's just been so militant in here the past few days I guess I was just expecting another jab or two my direction so I was shooting from the trenches just to be sure. :pac:
Never once expected us to get Sule but he really has all the attributes to become a top top centre back for someone else.

mosstin

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Would it be remiss of me to suggest both sides putting the ones on each side who annoy them on ignore so the rest can post without the sniping interfering with the flow of conversation?

Seems the easiest solution to the crapfest, really.

Hello, hello, HELLO, HELLO?

A week or more now that I've had this thread to myself.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Jaysus, I expected SOME reply to my post......

Harry Palmr

Utopia Parkway wrote: »

No game for 16 days now.

and a thousand and one posts later......I reckon we can get a fresh thread up and running for Monday evening Saturday morning.

martyos121

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Would it be remiss of me to suggest both sides putting the ones on each side who annoy them on ignore so the rest can post without the sniping interfering with the flow of conversation?

Seems the easiest solution to the crapfest, really.

You'd think it would be that easy, but it's so clear that the two main culprits enjoy the sniping so much that it won't happen. And to be clear, I'm talking about the two who think they're in the right but literally never are, they pounce on posts they don't like and act as if they're the solution, when in fact they're the cancer of the entire thread. They know exactly who they are as do the rest of us, and they should cut it the f out. This thread always had an element of humour to it, and this pair are doing their best to ruin that.

qm1bv4p8i92aoj

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Would it be remiss of me to suggest both sides putting the ones on each side who annoy them on ignore so the rest can post without the sniping interfering with the flow of conversation?

Seems the easiest solution to the crapfest, really.

Says the boy who likes to thank said sniping

Maybe stop feeding the crapfest so

Agent Coulson

Presser.

Glico Man

Lee Mason out, Michael Oliver in is some good news.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-jinx-referee-replaced-lucky-12653557

Mason is easily one of the worst in the league. Joint worst with Jon Moss imo.

mosstin

Glico Man wrote: »

Lee Mason out, Michael Oliver in is some good news.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-jinx-referee-replaced-lucky-12653557

Mason is easily one of the worst in the league. Joint worst with Jon Moss imo.

Michael Oliver is an excellent ref.

mormank

Glico Man wrote: »

Lee Mason out, Michael Oliver in is some good news.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-jinx-referee-replaced-lucky-12653557

Mason is easily one of the worst in the league. Joint worst with Jon Moss imo.

Wow, that's some swing! From possibly the worst ref in the league to possibly the best. I was not worried at all about this leicester game but now that Ranieri is gone it ups the variance imo.