Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

gafferino

Agent Coulson wrote: »

It seems FSG are willing to bid big for Pulisic (£30m)even though BVB say he isn't for sale at any price.



I guess FSG would love to have an American star player to market the club to Americans and the American market for sponsorship.

Link?

Kerrigooney

niallo27 wrote: »

United fans really are losing the plot. We were never that bad were we thinking the world was against us.

Jose always likes to have an us vs the world mentality at any club he's at. I think the Chelsea players got sick of it and I don't think the utd players are fully buying into it either,to be fair to them. The fans on the other hand...

FSG might like to have an American in the squad but I'm sure if we get him it's because Klopp wants him, nothing against FSG etc..... just how I see it.

Buford T. Justice XIX

niallo27 wrote: »

United fans really are losing the plot. We were never that bad were we thinking the world was against us.

We've had a bit longer to get used to being the extras rather than the star of the show.

A few more years of Jose and they'll be well sorted for it.

One_Of_Shanks

niallo27 wrote: »

United fans really are losing the plot. We were never that bad were we thinking the world was against us.

What season was it when we kept hitting the woodwork over and over again?
I know it was recent, I just cant recall which season exactly. Was it under Dalglish?
Jesus we were hitting the post every few minutes and we always came up against a MOTM display from opponent's keepers.
It was infuriating.

They've come up against some Superman keeping themselves this season to be fair.

I watched a documentary about the German national team from years back and I can't recall the player's name but he said that when they went to penalties against England they knew they'd win because the English players would recall previous penalty shoot-out losses and it would play on their minds.

But the point is, if you get it into you head that things are going against you then they will.
That's where Mourinho and Klopp are different.
With Klopp everything is possible and positive.
With Mourinho everything is about the negative.

Mourinho would pick a fight with himself if there was nobody else around.

SuperTortoise

niallo27 wrote: »

United fans really are losing the plot. We were never that bad were we thinking the world was against us.

Never mind that, there was one or two that thought they could still win the league! FFS west brom have a better chance!

One_Of_Shanks

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

A few more years of Jose and they'll be well sorted for it.

He won't last that long.

brevity

Lads, while it's funny watching them **** up here and there, ye are setting yerselves up for a fall if ye think Mourinho and Utd won't be successful.

niallo27

brevity wrote: »

Lads, while it's funny watching them **** up here and there, ye are setting yerselves up for a fall if ye think Mourinho and Utd won't be successful.

What do you regard as success though for me if you are taking about utd, it is about winning titles. I can't see them challenging myself.

brevity

niallo27 wrote: »

What do you regard as success though for me if you are taking about utd, it is about winning titles. I can't see them challenging myself.

If they don't win at least one title it will be a massive upset. There is way too much experience, quality and money there for them not to be in the mix.

To be fair, Jose isn't there long.

jesus_thats_gre

niallo27 wrote: »

United fans really are losing the plot. We were never that bad were we thinking the world was against us.

Who cares? Seriously like.

It's not exactly a new tactic for Jose.

niallo27

Augeo wrote: »

To be fair, Jose isn't there long.

He isn't but the rot has continued from last year when it comes to jose. With the expierence he has and the players you can't justify having West Brom ahead of you at this stage of the league.

niallo27

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Who cares? Seriously like.

By the replies so far quiet a few people.

jesus_thats_gre

niallo27 wrote: »

By the replies so far quiet a few people.

Conclusive.

One_Of_Shanks

brevity wrote: »

Lads, while it's funny watching them **** up here and there, ye are setting yerselves up for a fall if ye think Mourinho and Utd won't be successful.

Why do they have to be collective?

I've said that Mourinho won't work out there long term. He won't.

Of course United will always be huge and as Carra once said, everything is cyclical.
But no reason why Mourinho will necessarily be successful there. What makes you so sure he will?

brevity

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Why do they have to be collective?

I've said that Mourinho won't work out there long term. He won't.

Of course United will always be huge and as Carra once said, everything is cyclical.
But no reason why Mourinho will necessarily be successful there. What makes you so sure he will?

He has been successful in every club he has been at. I certainly don't think he is the same manager that he once was (Madrid ****ed him up imo) but once he has money and experience around him he will do well.

Charlie19

I will certainly enjoy it while it lasts.

BorneTobyWilde

I have always found it strange that United moved away from the style of play and players that they had huge success with under Alex. Jose is third non football playing manager since Alex left. I dunno why they are so insistent on going down this road but its not working.
They should appoint a manager who likes to play football like Alex did, it's really hard to understand why they are so determined to change their style, their history.
I would hate if we started appointing managers who don't respect the history and style we play, we had one for a lil while, Woy, he made us cry .

BorneTobyWilde

It's hard to see United beating Everton.
They could be 8th and 14 points form top tomorrow.

Away to Everton
Home to Spurs
Away to Palace
Away to West Brom

Don't play another home game until after Xmas

Could be a sad xmas in United Thread

Agent Coulson

So Liverpool are playing tomorrow


I can't see Eddie parking the bus tomorrow so it should be an open game of football.

Alonso77

Way too much talk about utd in here at mo. Layve em off!

One_Of_Shanks

brevity wrote: »

He has been successful in every club he has been at. I certainly don't think he is the same manager that he once was (Madrid ****ed him up imo) but once he has money and experience around him he will do well.

Oh well, you went from "being successful" to "being in the mix" and then "doing well"

So you don't seem so sure yourself

That's not just me being pedantic, it's not going to be enough for him there to be in the mix or do well. They'll feck him out if he doesn't do more than that.

I think they'll feck him out at the end of next season.

Why? Because I think he had a "I am God" aura about him when things were going well and every player will respond to that but he has lost that now and all you're left with is a regular manager who's a bit too cautious tactically for his own good.

But that's just my opinion. Plenty others out there

One_Of_Shanks

Agent Coulson wrote: »

So Liverpool are playing tomorrow


I can't see Eddie parking the bus tomorrow so it should be an open game of football.

Will Ibe be playing?

Kerrigooney

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Will Ibe be playing?

Hope not. He's liable to kill one of our defenders by repeatedly running into him.

brevity

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Oh well, you went from "being successful" to "being in the mix" and then "doing well"

So you don't seem so sure yourself

That's not just me being pedantic, it's not going to be enough for him there to be in the mix or do well. They'll feck him out if he doesn't do more than that.

I think they'll feck him out at the end of next season.

Why? Because I think he had a "I am God" aura about him when things were going well and every player will respond to that but he has lost that now and all you're left with is a regular manager who's a bit too cautious tactically for his own good.

But that's just my opinion. Plenty others out there

That's being pendatic to be fair.

It's all relative. If it was anyone else, at perhaps a different level, the standards would be different.

Being in the mix means challenging i.e. close to winning, getting far in the CL.

Doing well means winning a league and a cup here or there.

I'll leave it there anyway. As you say its just an opinion

BorneTobyWilde

Chelsea will be hard to move from top
They have what seem to be easier fixtures coming up
Hope we can stay with them until start of year
Bournemouth tomorrow will be a test without Coutinho

citytillidie

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Will Ibe be playing?

why would he not be they bought him, he is not on loan

Buford T. Justice XIX

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Chelsea will be hard to move from top
They have what seem to be easier fixtures coming up
Hope we can stay with them until start of year
Bournemouth tomorrow will be a test without Coutinho

Just caught their highlights on MOTD and I was impressed. They are favourites for a reason but City could have had a couple of goals today too. But the bounce of the ball seems with them as they could/should have 2 players sent off. One probably will get a ban in the next few days alright.

citytillidie

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Just caught their highlights on MOTD and I was impressed. They are favourites for a reason but City could have had a couple of goals today too. But the bounce of the ball seems with them as they could/should have 2 players sent off. One probably will get a ban in the next few days alright.

Could have been a different game if the ref did not bottle that challenge by Luiz in the 1st half

One_Of_Shanks

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Chelsea will be hard to move from top
They have what seem to be easier fixtures coming up
Hope we can stay with them until start of year
Bournemouth tomorrow will be a test without Coutinho

The frustrating bit is that we seem to be facing a run of games where Coutinho could have been useful to break teams down and then when Mane goes we have a run of games that we could have done with his pace for counter-attacks coz it's a run of tougher games.
Oh well, unfortunate but c'est la vie.

People giving Mane flack lately but it's no coincidence that it has been a run of games against teams who sit back and it doesnt suit his game so much, thats all.
He ends up getting a run for a peno against sunderland when they're losing.
Why? Because they had pushed up a bit.
Sorry, nothing to do with your post, but just wanted to say it.

We'll be alright tomorrow. Won't be easy but we'll sneak it 2-1

Buford T. Justice XIX

citytillidie wrote: »

Could have been a different game if the ref did not bottle that challenge by Luiz in the 1st half

Yeah and Chalobah? should have been sent off after the Aguero tackle.

citytillidie

Why did Forster not make that kind of balls up when Liverpool were playing against the Southampton bus

One_Of_Shanks

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

They are favourites for a reason .

Yeah the main reason being ManCity's underwhelming start. Were Chelsea favourites at the start?
Genuine question. I doubt they were. And if they were then it was some call by the bookies.

Man City have the best squad in the league, they just keep making a feck of it.

For such a highly rated manager, Pep does some mad stuff. The keeper situation was nuts. Get rid of a club favourite who admittedly had gone through a torrid time but still young, replace him with a fella who's terrified of a pass back but supposedly he's "more comfortable on the ball".
Then have a tiff with Aguero who is the best striker in the league by a mile, then keep rotating the team so badly that they look like a bunch of strangers who almost get turned over by Celtic, a glorified pub team.

Was listening to Johnny Giles recently and he's not everyone's cup of tea admittedly but he was spot on about Guardiola when he said they'll end up with 11 midfielders the way they're going.

Oh and just for the record Giles said Chelsea to win the league and Liverpool 2nd. (2 weeks ago)
I agree.

citytillidie

Charlie19 wrote: »

I will certainly enjoy it while it lasts.

Yep it is enjoyable as it goes on.

On another note why are you giving that rag publicity in the humour thread

NukaCola

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

For such a highly rated manager, Pep does some mad stuff.

50M for John Stones is pretty crazy also.......

One_Of_Shanks

citytillidie wrote: »

On another note why are you giving that rag publicity in the humour thread

I'm gonna guess that Charlie didn't realise that the Twitter link to "dreamfc" was linked to the Rag or he wouldn't have posted it.

Good spot though and we all hate those f****rs with a passion. It was probably an honest mistake.

One_Of_Shanks

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

.......

Was listening to Johnny Giles recently and he's not everyone's cup of tea admittedly but he was spot on about Guardiola when he said they'll end up with 11 midfielders the way they're going.............

Liverpool generally play with 7 midfielders these days

One_Of_Shanks

NukaCola wrote: »

50M for John Stones is pretty crazy also.......

Yeah I thought so. He fits the bill for Pep in that he can pass the ball from the back.
But as a good defender, he's not there yet imo.
CitytillIdie might say otherwise, he's a very good poster that chap btw.

But yeah maybe it's down to your style of defender.

I loved Arbeloa and Finnan and Carragher. Pep wouldnt tolerate any of those.
Actually I wonder would Klopp like Finnan or Arbeloa?
Carra is a no brainer.

One_Of_Shanks

Augeo wrote: »

Liverpool generally play with 7 midfielders these days

Ha yeah. But I think what he was getting at was the keeper and CB's all want to be midfielders.

In other words they all want to be on the ball and picking passes and it doesnt work.

punk_one82

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Carra is a no brainer.

We've had enough of those in our defence in recent years.

NukaCola

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Yeah I thought so. He fits the bill for Pep in that he can pass the ball from the back.
But as a good defender, he's not there yet imo.

I mean, I'm not saying he's poor and I know transfer fee cant/should not be used as an indication of talent, but as you say he is a bit off where he needs to be especially for that price range.....he's decent but not 50M decent IMO. Plenty of scope for improvement to be fair to him.

One_Of_Shanks

NukaCola wrote: »

I mean, I'm not saying he's poor and I know transfer fee cant/should not be used as an indication of talent, but as you say he is a bit off where he needs to be especially for that price range.....he's decent but not 50M decent IMO. Plenty of scope for improvement to be fair to him.

Yeah I wouldnt doubt his potential long term. And he didnt pick the fee.

Matip makes other CB signings look expensive anyway

One_Of_Shanks

If this has been done on here before then just tell me.

But if not, here goes..........

Can you name SIX players who have player for Liverpool and Ac Milan?

noodler

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

Yeah I thought so. He fits the bill for Pep in that he can pass the ball from the back.
But as a good defender, he's not there yet imo.
CitytillIdie might say otherwise, he's a very good poster that chap btw.

But yeah maybe it's down to your style of defender.

I loved Arbeloa and Finnan and Carragher. Pep wouldnt tolerate any of those.
Actually I wonder would Klopp like Finnan or Arbeloa?
Carra is a no brainer.

Finnan played football all day.

One of the beat crossers during his time at the club.

Or did I pick you up wrong?

One_Of_Shanks

noodler wrote: »

Finnan played football all day.

One of the beat crossers during his time at the club.

Or did I pick you up wrong?

No, you didn't pick me up wrong.

A full back who defends first, attacks second, and can cross.

That's all I meant.

I loved Finnan. Arbeloa too. It's insane how cheaply we sold Arbeloa when you look back on it. And yeah I know he wanted the move etc but still a tiny fee for such a good player.

One_Of_Shanks

One_Of_Shanks wrote: »

If this has been done on here before then just tell me.

But if not, here goes..........

Can you name SIX players who have player for Liverpool and Ac Milan?

Anyone? Shout em out one at a time if you know any of them.

eyerer

^ Super Mario off the top of my head
and Suso

sword1

Aquaman ,Torres ,balotelli

One_Of_Shanks

Fair play, that's Suso, Balotelli, Aquilani, Torres

God answers lads. That's 4. Still 2 to go