Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Fowler87

martyos121 wrote:

Bless them, they're looking a great shout for fifth place.

If we continue defending like today we'll be not too far off them

martyos121

Fowler87 wrote: »

If we continue defending like today we'll be not too far off them

We're 9 clear of them, essentially 10 when you look at the goal difference. Did 14 games unbeaten mean absolutely nothing to you? Matip will be back very soon, maybe even for the next game. I think you're being overly pessimistic there tbh.

Fowler87

Ardent wrote:

Karius cost us today, two bad mistakes. I'd rather have Mignolet back.

Id rather Steve Staunton in goal out of the two.

We need to invest in January. Reliable keeper is essential

mormank

Augeo wrote: »

I do hope he'll recover but he's looking a fairly sh1t keeper to me. Take away the well rated in Germany stuff and he's done little if anything in an LFC shirt to inspire any confidence.

NukaCola wrote: »

Its may be harsh but thats where I am also.

Genuine question so, either of you two able to name a keeper that came into the premier league and looked very good to excellent immediately? We have never had one so was curious if they even exist!!

K-9

K-9 wrote: »

Good man Fellani.

It's great that they are so rubbish. Hoped they can nick a draw next week v spurs though

mosstin

K-9 wrote: »

Good man Fellani.

In fairness to Mourinho, he's still making game changing substitutions.

Alonso77

martyos121 wrote: »

We're 9 clear of them, essentially 10 when you look at the goal difference. Did 14 games unbeaten mean absolutely nothing to you? Matip will be back very soon, maybe even for the next game. I think you're being overly pessimistic there tbh.

seems like some are chomping at the bit to overreact to every setback. We were all raging after Burnley but went on a great run, could easily go on another ....... as long as Matip plays!

martingriff

ebbsy wrote: »

Karius was a ****ing disgrace.

Was hoping after 2 clean sheets (Not all down to him) there be some change. Kloop may need to bring Minoglet in. Another keeper needed but the defence needss to get better also even if we do get a brilliant keeper

NukaCola

Those 3 goals we scored were super finishes.

Fowler87

martyos121 wrote:

We're 9 clear of them, essentially 10 when you look at the goal difference. Did 14 games unbeaten mean absolutely nothing to you? Matip will be back very soon, maybe even for the next game. I think you're being overly pessimistic there tbh.

Pessimistic? You're the one comparing us to them who essentially aren't even challengers for the league this year now.

Matip will boost the defence no doubt but as Carra said on sky this isnt a quick fix to sort this Liverpool defence. I'm sure Klopp realise this more so than ever today.

No denying the run was great though. Shame it had to end like that today

NukaCola

mormank wrote: »

Genuine question so, either of you two able to name a keeper that came into the premier league and looked very good to excellent immediately? We have never had one so was curious if they even exist!!

Very good/Excellent? I'd settle for being able to hold a football or catch a cross.

So if I cant name a good GK that was excellent then Karius will turn out to be great? Without doing any thinking I'll say Reina looked pretty good immediately, hows that?

Karius may improve, and i hope so, I dont like writing young players off but he has been poor for us and cost us today. I'm not allowed to criticise bad performances?

NukaCola

Alonso77 wrote: »

seems like some are chomping at the bit to overreact to every setback. We were all raging after Burnley but went on a great run, could easily go on another ....... as long as Matip plays!

https://twitter.com/peterjharvey/status/805434357544550400

Kirby

mormank wrote: »

Genuine question so, either of you two able to name a keeper that came into the premier league and looked very good to excellent immediately? We have never had one so was curious if they even exist!!

Cech, Courtois, Begovic, VDS, Reina, Lloris, Schmeichel. All 7 looked great when they came in. The odd mistake is standard, but overall they looked top class.

Thats just off the top of my head. With a few minutes to think about it, you could probably think of about 30.

Simple fast is Liverpool dont have a top keeper.

cj maxx

Half watching the game today and while karius was bad , remember so was DDG for his first season. Though he does not look to be our answer.
My major worry is klopps game management. It seems his only weak point. He doesn't adjust his team as early as he should ( imo) depending on the ebb and flow of a game.

ShamoBuc

Very disappointed with the loss from the position we were in. It does happens though and we were on a very good run, had to end sometime. Karius is having a tough time, but we cannot afford that type of pefprformance too often, with Matip back hopefully we might see less of his mistakes.
Also, great to see Klopp going over and congratulating the Bournemouth players and singling out I've for a big hug. He really is a legend of a manager and we are very lucky to have him. Every season has its blips, how we react is what matters.

machiavellianme

brevity wrote: »

Liverpool need a bastard.

Liverpool need a solid keeper. The rest of the team are grand. Chelsea, Spurs, Utd, Arsenal and even Southampton all have strong keepers. Christ even Sunderland and Burnley have good ones. If you don't concede, you get point(s). Everything is going well, yet everytime the opposition attack, they seem to score.
We've never really replaced Reina (by no means a world beater but he knew that keeping a clean sheet got us a champions league spot more often than not). Fist it behind, boot it the length of the pitch or catch it but for the love of Fowler, don't knock it down to the opposition in your own box.

mormank

mormank wrote: »

Genuine question so, either of you two able to name a keeper that came into the premier league and looked very good to excellent immediately? We have never had one so was curious if they even exist!!

I wouldn't off hand to be honest
Despite that I feel Karius is looking not great in general and was tremendously sh1t today. I've seen nothing to suggest he's any better than Mignolet or dare I say I don't think he's as good as Mig given what we've seen

Now, I don't think I saw him play before he signed for us so I can't comment on the well regarded in Germany thing.

ShamoBuc wrote: »

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Also, great to see Klopp going over and congratulating the Bournemouth players and singling out I've for a big hug.......

That was brilliant alright. Ibe was well chuffed I'd say

mav79

What the hell is the problem with keepers lately, not just Karius, but most keepers now seem to punch everything instead of trying to make a catch. Can understand it when going above defenders and attackers, but one shot today was straight at Karius and when he punched it it skewed over the bar, could have very easily ended up in the back of the net.

Harry Palmr

I'm less annoyed with the keeper than I am about the shower of sh'ite that couldn't stop a fresh sub creating mayhem by the simple act of being fast and full of beans.

mormank

mosstin wrote: »

If Klopp's happy with the squad and we can go 14 games unbeaten, the squad's good enough. Regardless of what you or I think. I think he's happy enough with what we have coming through to avoid spending big.

While I don't necessarily disagree that the squad is good enough your rationale is way too simplistic and faulty. The strength of the squad isn't really tested until you have a few injuries to key players at the same time. During that undefeated run this did not happen until Sunderland last time out in the league when Coutinho got injured. From today is when we discover if the squad is good enough, especially with Matip being injured also. Today will have to go down as a failure for the squad if you ask me. Composure is what was missing.

Korat

I really think this season is Liverpool's best shot at winning a title and getting back into elite of football.

The big teams(with money) are regrouping and as proved by Leicester a well organised team of average players can win the EPL.

Klopp is an excellent coach and the title is there for the taking as long as Liverpool don't choke against teams like Bournemouth too often.

Utopia Parkway

Matip brings an awful lot of calmness and compusure to the defence. Without him Lovren was back to playing like a headbanger today.

Liverpool were so comfortable today that losing that game is just dreadful. Bournemouth didn't even play well. Were handed the game by us.

Harry Palmr

I know lets buy Van Dijk - oh wait....:p

Dick phelan

I'm sorry to say our defense isn't good enough to win the title and it's not just one game i'm reacting to, we concede far too many goals even in games we win. We'll get top 4 i'm very confident of that and hopefully win the Cup, But we're not a title winning team this year, Klopp is building something i'v every faith in him that we will win the title with him in charge but i'd be very surprised if it was this year.

BorneTobyWilde

Freak result
We have shown consistency
This is a game we played well in
We were in control until gods stepped in
Celta Vigo 4 Barcelona 3
Freak results happen

Vicxas

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Freak result
We have shown consistency
This is a game we played well in
We were in control until gods stepped in
Celta Vigo 4 Barcelona 3
Freak results happen

^^^^ This

It happens, invincibles we are not... yet.

I think Karius will have a few more hiccups before he becomes the concrete first team keeper.

And my god did we miss Matip today.

NukaCola

Korat wrote: »

I really think this season is Liverpool's best shot at winning a title and getting back into elite of football.

The big teams(with money) are regrouping and as proved by Leicester a well organised team of average players can win the EPL.

Klopp is an excellent coach and the title is there for the taking as long as Liverpool don't choke against teams like Bournemouth too often.

I dont agree with the league being there for the taking at all. And as for Leicester they ran nearly unopposed last season. We have to contend with Man City, Arsenal and Chelsea all improving on last season even Spurs aren't that far behind either. Thats 5 teams with little between them at the moment. The same couldn't be said last season.

NukaCola

Dick phelan wrote: »

I'm sorry to say our defense isn't good enough to win the title and it's not just one game i'm reacting to, we concede far too many goals even in games we win. We'll get top 4 i'm very confident of that and hopefully win the Cup, But we're not a title winning team this year, Klopp is building something i'v every faith in him that we will win the title with him in charge but i'd be very surprised if it was this year.

I agree.

Top 4 is a must. A title challenge would be nice. Either way a lot of football to be played and if we continue as we have been we'll be in good shape in May.

Iused2likebusts

any word on mane

gafferino

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

any word on mane

Yeah and what was up with Matip? Any word on Sturridge?

Agent Coulson

Not everything is doom and gloom.

A 21 year average striker with 7 goals in his last 8 starts.

Korat

NukaCola wrote: »

I dont agree with the league being there for the taking at all.

That sounds like defeatism.

Leicester were a nothing until they believed in themselves and look what they achieved.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Korat wrote: »

That sounds like defeatism.

Leicester were a nothing until they believed in themselves and look what they achieved.

Leicester can defend winning positions though.

NukaCola

Korat wrote: »

That sounds like defeatism.

Leicester were a nothing until they believed in themselves and look what they achieved.

A lot of things went right for Leicester not solely belief. Leicester won it with the lowest amount of points in 5 or so years. No-one challenged them. This season will be different.

Table after 14 games last season....

1.Manchester City 29
2.Leicester City 29
3.Manchester United 28
4.Arsenal 27
5.Tottenham Hotspur 25
6.Liverpool 23

3 games after that Leicester are 6 ahead of City and 14 ahead of us...

That's why writing anyone off so quick is insane.

citytillidie

Can't believe you have all fallen for it

TitianGerm

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Table after 14 games last season....

14 point swing between ourselves and United compared to last year.

NukaCola

RoboKlopp wrote: »

3 games after that Leicester are 6 ahead of City and 14 ahead of us...

That's why writing anyone off so quick is insane.

Just to be clear, I'm not writing anyone off I just think that the league will be more difficult to win than last year, or at least more competitive......

Korat

RoboKlopp wrote: »

Table after 14 games last season....

Quote:
1.Manchester City 29
2.Leicester City 29
3.Manchester United 28
4.Arsenal 27
5.Tottenham Hotspur 25
6.Liverpool 23Table after 14 games last season...

It's on!

NukaCola

citytillidie wrote: »

Can't believe you have all fallen for it

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citytillidie

NukaCola wrote: »

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K-9

Jaysus, Jose has won 9 out of his last 30 PL games, a 30% success rate. It'll drop to his tax rate soon.

Kerrigooney

citytillidie wrote: »

Can't believe you have all fallen for it

NukaCola wrote: »

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citytillidie wrote: »

Check you PMs

Korat

K-9 wrote: »

Jaysus, Jose has won 9 out of his last 30 PL games, a 30% success rate. It'll drop to his tax rate soon.

That's beating his tax contribution... and mine :P

BorneTobyWilde

K-9 wrote: »

Jaysus, Jose has won 9 out of his last 30 PL games, a 30% success rate. It'll drop to his tax rate soon.

One win in over two months of football and Spurs next

BorneTobyWilde

Karius penalty save attempt is a joke, half hearted fall to his left.
That shot at end was easy take considering he did get behind it ,and did read it well, he just spilt it.

cj maxx

If Mig performed like that today this forum wwiuld be lit up ..
early days for karius but he cost the team 2 goals

Knex*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mogic63B3w

Charlie19

Very honest assessment.

Chalk and cheese compared to that of the cranky one.