Liverpool FC Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2016/2017

Ben Gadot

MD1990 wrote: »

It is probably just Chamberlain's agent looking for a a new deal actually.
Don't see any Liverpool Journo's linking us to Chamberlain just the London one's.

Must have the same agent as Walcott and a contract up for a renewal.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Ben Gadot wrote: »

Must have the same agent as Walcott and a contract up for a renewal.

Yeah, contract renewal was the first thought that came into my head when I saw the link.

Well, that and click-bait.

5starpool

I don't think we're going to sign him, but if Klopp thinks that he wants him I'm certainly prepared to back him until we've seen proof otherwise.

Kerrigooney

The window opens in a couple of days and we're going to get linked to dozens of players. Most if not all of the links will be arse so I've stopped getting either excited or disappointed with players we're linked with. When there's a picture of them at Melwood we can talk.

I'm not saying don't talk about it btw,before I get accused of that.

Gaillimh1976

Kerrigooney wrote: »

. When there's a picture of them leaning at Melwood we can talk.

fyp

KaiserGunner

I remember Oxlade Chamberlain saying at the start of the season that he would consider his future at the end of the season if he wasn't getting more game time. He's been rotated a lot this season due to form and injury. I don't really know what to make of Chamberlain can be brilliant one week and then garbage the next, plus he has picked up a lot of injuries although he wouldn't have been the only one to at Arsenal. He's having a decent start to the season in fairness though.

I couldn't see him moving in January though, would be at the end of the season. I did hear somewhere that Liverpool were interested in Gibbs? Could be some truth in that seeing how Milner plays left back.

BullBlackNova

Rather than what people want to see in January, what do ye expect to see?

I reckon we won't buy or sell anyone for this season. Might secure one or two young players or out-of-contract players for the summer, but I reckon this is our lot.

I think we're short in a few positions - we've a very small squad and a handful of injuries could be really problematic I think, so I wouldn't mind adding an extra defender (ideally someone versatile that could play at both full back positions), maybe an extra CM and a winger/attacker, but I don't see any of it happening tbh!!

I also don't think I'll lose any sleep if we don't make a few moves - as we've seen with previous windows, it's tough to find the right players so we might look inwards instead. In fact, the only thing that might make worry a little is if we sell one or two players. If Sakho and Lucas went, for e.g., we'd surely have to sign someone.

Beyond that, I'm hoping that Kevin Stewart, Trent Alexander-Arnold and Ben Woodburn see some more action before the end of the season. And maybe Joe Gomez might make his comeback too?

EDIT: And if we have our position sorted by the last game of the season, I want Manninger to start...

Agent Coulson

Would Ox get in ahead of Mane, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Origi and Sturridge?

I don't see him getting in ahead of the first 4 that means he would be a squad player competing for a place on the bench with the last two so would he really move from one team where he is a squad player to another the team where he would be a squad player I don't think he would myself.

In CM we have Can on the bench currently and Grujic presumably will get cup games so we mightn't be too bad in that area. Stewart too.

Need a squad CB, Matip, Lovren, Klavan & Gomez probably fine once Matip is fit but its patchy otherwise especially if (fairly sure we will) be in Europe.

Milner is 33 now I think so LB does of course need looking at too.

Yawns

Augeo wrote: »

Milner is 33 now I think so LB does of course need looking at too.

Pretty sure he's just 30

Agent Coulson

The Times reporting Matip will miss the City game.

Yawns

Yawns wrote: »

Pretty sure he's just 30

Oops & wow

That's brilliant so, can't fault him at wing back really. he has been excellent

Umaro

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceEcho/status/814457146624638976


Love it.

Kerrigooney

Umaro wrote: »

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceEcho/status/814457146624638976


Love it.

There you go.

Harry Palmr

Klopp explodes at obsession with transfer window!

No shock but Coutinho no go for City and Sunderland.

Buford T. Justice XIX

I came across this map of Liverpools positioning and passes during the Stoke game.

https://twitter.com/11tegen11/status/814153088613355528

I was surprised by how little Lallana featured during the game and how close Firmino and Origis positioning was during the game.

Umaro

BullBlackNova wrote: »

Rather than what people want to see in January, what do ye expect to see?

I would expect to see Sakho to get his loan move. I think Swansea or Crystal Palace could come in for him. They're both scoring plenty of goals but lack someone at the back who can lead and organise.

Lucas, I would be surprised to see that Inter move happen - he'll get games in Jan/Feb with the FA Cup and League Cup semi-final 2 legs. He's well-liked within the squad and part of the Brazilian crew - I do think that Klopp sees that and understands the importance of squad morale.


Incoming - so hard to make a call on this one! Last year they were quite willing to lay down £25-£30m for Alex Teixeira before China gazumped them. In the end we got Caulker on loan, and made a downpayment on Grujic. I think they will pick someone up who can play wide on either wing as we lack that bit of depth for those positions.

I feel it would be such a shame if we finish 2nd or 5th by 1-2pts and we look back on a January window where we bought nobody and have a net spend of zero. I know Klopp doesn't think like fans do - but I can't help but worry it'll bite us in the arse if we don't buy.

8-10

Is Aidy Ward Oxlade-Chamberlain's agent?

Easy to see where this rumour started, and why.

Transfer gossip is as bad as the Macedonian teenagers making up fake news during the US election. Newspapers and websites make money by putting out stories that they know have nothing behind it - I'm convinced of it. Should not be allowed.

Harry Palmr

The weight of passing to and from Lallana is interesting given how busy he was in the game. You'd think he was a passenger on that graphic.

dundalkfc10

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Would Ox get in ahead of Mane, Coutinho, Lallana, Firmino, Origi and Sturridge?

I don't see him getting in ahead of the first 4 that means he would be a squad player competing for a place on the bench with the last two so would he really move from one team where he is a squad player to another the team where he would be a squad player I don't think he would myself.

He will be off to Madrid or Barcelona in the summer

mormank

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Seems pointless to guess what players will come in under Klopp. The signings we made in the summer were not products of long running speculation (Matip excluded I guess) the previous season, they did not seem massively exciting and yet they have mostly done quite well thus far.

I trust him to advocate successfully for the players he wants and for his signings to be based on perceived suitability for his system.

I was excited by both the mane and Gini signings. Just because you and other fans chose to be negative as usual doesn't mean they weren't exciting signings.

Harry Palmr

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

He will be off to Madrid or Barcelona in the summer

No he won't. Liverpool are going to be in the CL next season and that will be his showcase for transferring to Barca in 2018!

dundalkfc10

Harry Palmr wrote: »

No he won't. Liverpool are going to be in the CL next season and that will be his showcase for transferring to Barca in 2018!

CL Qualifiers probably!

Harry Palmr

Seriously, **** off!

eagle eye

I think the Quincy Promes rumours might be legit because he can play in the three attacking mid/forward roles which is really what Liverpool want right now from an attacking standpoint.

Also if anybody is going to be going to one of the big two in Spain I'd bet on it being Mane and not Coutinho so Promes preferred position is right side forward/winger and he'd have six months in the system by the time Mane leaves if that does happen.

I don't expect Liverpool to be a selling club though under Klopp. They are building something big there and something that will last for quite some time by the looks of things.

DrumSteve

Tbf its not as if we need the money considering how little we've spent compared to how much weve taken in.

Osmosis Jones

Do we have any sort of information on Matip's injury? Seems we were just told a few weeks ago that he'll miss the next game with a knock, and now we're being told the same thing every week.

Vicxas

Pickford is out of the Sunderland squad for the next 6 weeks with a knee injury.

Bandana boy

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't expect Liverpool to be a selling club though under Klopp. They are building something big there and something that will last for quite some time by the looks of things.

You could argue that at the height of their power Dortmund remained a selling club when the price was right and I suspect under current owners we will be the same.

Tipsy McSwagger

Nice to see Phil Scraton turn down an OBE from the same British establishment who failed to review the Hillsborough Tragedy thoroughly and independently.

Harry Palmr

Liverpool have so much more money than Dortmund and this is 2014/15 - pretty sure the gap has grown since

9 Liverpool 391.8 England 9 —
10 Juventus 323.9 Italy 10 —
11 Borussia Dortmund 280.6 Germany 11 —

Osmosis Jones

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

Do we have any sort of information on Matip's injury? Seems we were just told a few weeks ago that he'll miss the next game with a knock, and now we're being told the same thing every week.

It's the one he had when he signed I think.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Out of interest, what would be the price on Coutinho if he did leave?

kevthegaff

50-80?

Harry Palmr

Forza Inter have just reopened the Lucas Levia transfer thread after a year closed - he must be off!

sword1

klose wrote: »

I read a table in the arsenal thread ox has 6 goals and 6 assists this season(2 and 4 in the league) not sure what to make of it really, wasnt he always touted as a centre mid but forced out wide?

How did you find that

Buford T. Justice XIX

kevthegaff wrote: »

50-80m?

Nice try Kev but I added the m for you anyway:p

klose

sword1 wrote: »

How did you find that

Check the last couple of pages there, one of the posters there keeps track of all goals and assists for all Arsenal players. Anyways klopp outright called it a nonsense rumour in the presser today so that's the end of that.

sword1

klose wrote: »

Check the last couple of pages there, one of the posters there keeps track of all goals and assists for all Arsenal players. Anyways klopp outright called it a nonsense rumour in the presser today so that's the end of that.

Thanks for the reply but the comment was tongue in cheek as i think they are like spurs hidden in some unknown place i.e.not in the football forum but maybe i am wrong i am wrong, just checked, not going there either way

Turtyturd

sword1 wrote: »

Thanks for the reply but the comment was tongue in cheek as i think they are like spurs hidden in some unknown place i.e.not in the football forum but maybe i am wrong i am wrong, just checked, not going there either way

It's great fun.

BorneTobyWilde

Spurs would get a world record fee for Coutinho, he is that good. It should be a recording breaking price for him to leave. Pogba cost 93m , eh he's more devastating that he will ever be .

x43r0

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Spurs would get a world record fee for Coutinho, he is that good. It should be a recording breaking price for him to leave. Pogba cost 93m , eh he's more devastating that he will ever be .

Spurs?? Coutinho?

Agent Coulson

I'm guessing he means if Coutinho was a Spurs player and Barca or Madrid came in for the Levy would screw them over for a world record fee where as by our history we would let him go on the cheap.

One_Of_Shanks

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'm guessing he means if Coutinho was a Spurs player and Barca or Madrid came in for the Levy would screw them over for a world record fee where as by our history we would let him go on the cheap.

I haven't seen us selling on the cheap under Klopp. If anything we've improved tenfold in that regard.

He played a blinder with Benteke just for example and made it public that we would keep him rather than let him go for a fee we weren't happy with.

Anyhow.... Nevermind any hypothetical fee for Coutinho. Nab top-4 and he stays. Not something to be concerning ourselves with at the mo.

DrumSteve

Every player has a price. If he went I wouldn't really care.

I haven't cared since Nando.

Damn you, you magnificent bastard.

Agent Coulson

DrumSteve wrote: »

Every player has a price. If he went I wouldn't really care.

I haven't cared since Nando.

Damn you, you magnificent bastard.

Oh your just a kid

I have felt that way since Souness and Rush left in the 80's

Muahahaha

No way were we ever signing Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. It would only have gotten Trent Alexander-Arnolds nose out of joint. Only room for one posh boy at the club.

Turtyturd

I suppose he'd be handy to take a red card for Matip, Clyne, Wijnaldum, Mane, or Origi. Doesn't offer anything else.

LuckyLloyd

mormank wrote: »

I was excited by both the mane and Gini signings. Just because you and other fans chose to be negative as usual doesn't mean they weren't exciting signings.

You need to let go of the hate in your heart. If we're still in this thing with a shot at the league late in the season I'll be in feedback advocating for ye when ye lose the run of yourselves; I'll be starting the match threads and taking the flak from Utd fans, etc.

I'm not negative or positive - just objective tbh.

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Spurs would get a world record fee for Coutinho, he is that good. It should be a recording breaking price for him to leave. Pogba cost 93m , eh he's more devastating that he will ever be .

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I'm guessing he means if Coutinho was a Spurs player and Barca or Madrid came in for the Levy would screw them over for a world record fee where as by our history we would let him go on the cheap.

Levy realised something a while ago that many teams should learn:

1) There is no mutual benefit to playing ball with Barca / Real. Piss them off. Annoy them. Because you'll never be buying something off them that is anywhere near the same importance. As such, there is no benefit in cultivating a good relationship with them

2) There is no benefit to letting a player under a long term contract go right when they want to. Delay them a year. Piss them off. Annoy them. Because if they're the real deal they'll produce for another year before leaving for a fee enhancement in excess of the wages you pay them for that additional year


If Coutinho keeps developing the way he has we won't keep him his entire career. But we should be aiming to keep him a little longer than he'd prefer. It's our right.

mormank

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

You need to let go of the hate in your heart. If we're still in this thing with a shot at the league late in the season I'll be in feedback advocating for ye when ye lose the run of yourselves; I'll be starting the match threads and taking the flak from Utd fans, etc.

I'm not negative or positive - just objective tbh.

Ha, I'll never let go of the hate in my heart! It's not football related tho. Anyway your allowed your opinion naturally but your opinion on those two signings were wrong. Just because you use the word objective doesn't make it right. You might say you aren't negative but let's just say when you are wrong about things it's usually that you have underestimated something, rarely if ever the other way around.