The sleeper of sudden death

Edups

Stigura wrote: »

Sales pitch of the year! I could sell water to a drowning man. But, I salute you!

If I were selling things to people drowning it would be life preserves. I stand to make a fortune.

OldMrBrennan83

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DrumSteve

Edups wrote: »

Ah for jesus sake the absolute eejits trying to be funny about a poor man who just dropped dead. The OP like many others obviously frequents this forum and posted here because it is the most popular. Sudden death is not a joke, heart conditions are a serious problem, and any suspicion you may have one should be addressed post haste.

And to the clown who made the drop dead gorgeous comment, I hope to jesus the mod bans you for trolling because that's the only thing it is.

Tbh this is AH, you will always get comments like that. You can't ban people for making ****ty jokes, that's not how this place works. You can however call it as a ****ty joke if you don't like it.

Had a friend of mine die in his sleep from a heart condition. One of nicest blokes I knew. If your out there I hope your at peace buddy.

SEPT 23 1989

Thread should have a warning on it

DONT READ IF YOU ARE OLD AND HUNGOVER

Ben Gadot

Patww79 wrote: »

It was only a neighbour. And you posted it in AH.

I explained my reasoning in the OP and again previously. The point of the thread was to ask other people's experience of it.

There's no better place to garner opinion on here than AH so is that good enough for you?

I guess you gave yours which was none so fair play, but given your flippant attitude I reserve the right to call you a ****.

I'll take the ban.

Airyfairy12

My relative had a brain hemorrhage when she was in her 20's, she had no history of illness, clots can form in your body at any age, you can be born with clots in your brain and they can suddenly rupture and kill you with no warning.

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

I think I'll give up the old jogging

dricko_lim

pcuser wrote: »

It happened a friend of mine 18 yrs ago, Ross Cooney. He was playing a game of basketball for UL above in Dublin and dropped dead during the game. He was only 18/19 he didnt not smoke and was a very athletic guy.

I knew Ross well myself

BrianD3

tatumkelly wrote: »

Sudden death and illness are frighteningly common.

Sudden death at the ages being discussed in this thread isn't common though, it happens and sometimes to athletes who live a healthy lifestyle. But in terms of actuarial statistics:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Excerpt_from_CDC_2003_Table_1.pdf

If 100,000 people are born
At age 19-20, 98,775 are alive
At age 29-30, 97,847 are alive
At age 39-40, 96,623 are alive

So roughly 2% of 20 year olds are dead by age 40. Obviously this 2% includes deaths from road accidents, suicides, cancers and other pre existing illnesses so the actual number that suddenly "drop dead" from cardiovascular issues is going to be considerably less than 2%.

mud

I don't understand the thread title. Sorry for your loss OP. Sudden death is a b1tch, especially when the person appears healthy.

My brother's friend died a couple of weeks ago. 100% grand until he wasn't and he was 45.

lilblankdress2

@Ben gadot

Unfortunately some people never get answers. If it's a cardiac cause sometimes it's caused by arrhythmias that cannot be detected once the heart is stopped. Family members need to get screening if sudden adult death syndrome is suspected. Some people have cardiac disorders which can be identified after death. Some family members only find out they also have the cardiac condition after screening as they may have a funny defect seen simply on a tracing of the heart or something like an enlarged heart.

My friend died last year from SADS. I don't think her family ever got a cause which is difficult.

In my personal experience dealing with the death of a friend from SADS was much more difficult than dealing with a friends death from cancer as I got to tell them how much I loved them and got to say goodbye.

I think people who work in the family screening clinics do a sterling job dealing with not only a families grief but also dealing with what their own personal future holds and trying to get answers and treatment for them.

OldMrBrennan83

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Ben Gadot

I regret that outburst myself and don't think much differently from yourself when it comes to people in general.

As for the thread title it's dumb admittedly, I'd appreciate if a mod would change it to just sudden death.

Ben Gadot

I regret that outburst myself and don't think much differently from yourself when it comes to people in general.

As for the thread title it's dumb admittedly, I'd appreciate if a mod would change it to just sudden death.

Ben Gadot

I regret that outburst myself and don't think much differently from yourself when it comes to people in general.

As for the thread title it's dumb admittedly, I'd appreciate if a mod would change it to just sudden death.

Ben Gadot

I regret that outburst myself and don't think much differently from yourself when it comes to people in general.

As for the thread title it's dumb admittedly, I'd appreciate if a mod would change it to just sudden death.

Ben Gadot

I regret that outburst myself and don't think much differently from yourself when it comes to people in general.

As for the thread title it's dumb admittedly, I'd appreciate if a mod would change it to just sudden death.

Day Lewin

OP - regarding the thread title...it may not be completely flippant.

Brugada syndrome causes sudden death, often during sleep, and often in previously quite healthy young adult men.

It was known in south-east Asia as a kind of monster that preyed on sleeping men...

"--- Sudden unexplained nocturnal death syndrome (SUNDS) is a condition characterized by unexpected cardiac arrest in young adults, usually at night during sleep. This condition was originally described in Southeast Asian populations, where it is a major cause of death. Researchers have determined that SUNDS and Brugada syndrome are the same disorder.

(from a government website)

And actually inspired a famous movie script..."Nightmare on Elm St"

https://vanwinkles.com/sudden-and-unexplained-the-sleep-deaths-that-inspired-freddy-krueger

So the association between sleep and sudden cardiac death in adults is not at all facetious, I assure you.

Anyone who has lost a relative in this unpredictable and very traumatic way ought to get tested for Brugada syndrome or similar arrhythmias. More information is needed and knowledge is protective.

wakka12

Senor Fancy Pants wrote: »

No need for that bollox. Youre a disgrace.

The comment was immature but do you really care? You didnt know the guy , you don't even know the OP who knows him, the faux outrage is cringe sometimes

Heckler

A neighbour of mine was found dead at his desk (47) by his wife and 2 kids returning home from a day away. Heart attack.

I'm 43, a heavyish smoker, weekend drinker. The idea of just dropping dead at any moment is a bit scary. I remember seeing a video (liveleak I think) of an Indian guy at a table with other speakers. He was talking and just died in a second. Freaked me out.

When I hear of young, sporty types half my age dying on a playing field I kinda figure **** it I'm gonna keep doing what i'm doing.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e22_1379111135&comments=1

Thats how quick it happens. Scary.

wakka12

Heckler wrote: »

A neighbour of mine was found dead at his desk (47) by his wife and 2 kids returning home from a day away. Heart attack.

I'm 43, a heavyish smoker, weekend drinker. The idea of just dropping dead at any moment is a bit scary. I remember seeing a video (liveleak I think) of an Indian guy at a table with other speakers. He was talking and just died in a second. Freaked me out.

When I hear of young, sporty types half my age dying on a playing field I kinda figure **** it I'm gonna keep doing what i'm doing.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e22_1379111135&comments=1

Thats how quick it happens. Scary.

Jesus thats terrifying.. don't watch it if you scare easily!

HS3

HS3 wrote: »

I don't know. They did a post mortem but I thought it a bit intrusive to go ask my colleague.

Unless we go for MOT's how could you detect anything?

A trip to the GP is 50 quid unless you have a medical card. Most people probably have some condition they would like to have checked out but 50 quid is 50 quid. Its a lot of money. And 50 quid is just the initial consult. MRIs, ultrasounds etc. Its more kerching! If healthcare in this country was more accessible and affordable perhaps, more of these conditions might be seen earlier and perhaps less of these deaths would occur.

The current waiting list for an MRI is about 14 months. Good thing MRIs aren't urgent right?

Day Lewin

GPs cannot screen for this:

If there is a family history of Sudden Adult Death Syndrome, (eg, a first degree relative) then the Mater have a research foundation that will do screening for free.

("Heart House", Eccles St)

Google it.

4ensic15

Ben Gadot wrote: »

We just got news of a neighbour dropping dead in his 30s. He had no history of illness. I'm wondering how common this is so share your stories.

Its very common. Never happens to the upper classes!

Loveinapril

An ex of mine died from SAD at 32. I took it really hard. He was a great guy. Exes are exes but at this age, you really don't expect them to die.

Lollipops23

I was friendly with the girl who passed away on the flight home from Cape Town last week.
We still don't know why it happened, even after the post mortem. She was just gone 30 in August, non smoker and a very healthy girl in general.
Very hard to wrap my brain around it, she was so full of life and genuinely good & decent person.

Ben Gadot

4ensic15 wrote: »

Its very common. Never happens to the upper classes!

People with money will always have a better chance of looking after their health or at least of gaining quicker access to the best of care. I mean I remember the day my godmother died from cancer that Kylie Minogue got the all clear so it's a bitter pill.

Then again, my oul lad paid his vhi for decades and still more or less got the same treatment when dying anyone else would going public.

So money is obviously a positive when it comes to fighting illness, but there are some illnesses you just can't combat. If they're silently aggressive or just pure silent all the money in the world will not help.

Day Lewin

Saddest of all is that they now think that Brugada syndrome and the like, may be responsible for some cases of what was formerly called "cot death" - sudden unforeseen death of an infant, usually during sleep.

It can't be anticipated, and often can't be detected at post-mortem either: screening and family history are the only predictors.

YFlyer

pcuser wrote: »

It happened a friend of mine 18 yrs ago, Ross Cooney. He was playing a game of basketball for UL above in Dublin and dropped dead during the game. He was only 18/19 he didnt not smoke and was a very athletic guy.

Did they find out if all the cans of Redbull he drank during the tournament contribute to his death?