SUV & 4X4

KwackerJack

Looking for advice on
an SUV with AWD or a Jeep 4x4, both must be auto

Budget is 30k and must be from a main dealer

For family use and towing, off road etc

selectamatic

Lexus rx, preferably an rx450h

Lex Luthor

http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Honda/CR-V/1.6-I/7301193765248315772/

KwackerJack

I do like the Lexus but the other half finds the styling bland.......anyway

Crv is quite nice, always forget about these. Any real life reviews on the Sportage or Tuscon?

bazz26

Maybe a Nissan X-Trail from the UK?

pablo128

Will you be towing much weight?

Walter2016

Nissan xtrail cvt

https://www.nissan.ie/vehicle/x-trail/pricing/393

34k but after discount, about 30-31k

bazz26

I think they only sell the X-Trail in 4wd and auto in top spec which is alot more than 30k.

Edit, just looking at the Nissan site and it looks like the 4wd version only comes in manual or CVT only comes in 2wd.

Eric Cartman

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/land-rover/discovery/used-2013-131-land-rover-discovery-3-wexford-fpa-2698352675361574748

just over budget but if you've no trade in you should be able to talk away 1500 of that handy enough.

pablo128

Eric Cartman wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/land-rover/discovery/used-2013-131-land-rover-discovery-3-wexford-fpa-2698352675361574748

just over budget but if you've no trade in you should be able to talk away 1500 of that handy enough.

Thats an ex-vat price.

fits

What will you be towing and how often? Tucsons and sportages arent up to much for towing.

KwackerJack

fits wrote: »

What will you be towing and how often? Tucsons and sportages arent up to much for towing.

Small twin axle box trailer carrying motorbikes

Just popped into Kia and Ford

New Sportage comes with sat nav and heated seats as standard when you buy the 2.0 auto model and has the low range option.

All above are options on ford even at higher spec and has no low range option

Both sit neat 40k new

Looking at Seat and Volvo this week

thegodlife

I would look at the Kia sorento, I have an old one now but previously when things were good with me drove XC90, XC70 and Discovery. Feel it compares very well much cheaper than the Volvos and not as big a tank as the Landrover. If things improve for me again and looking towards a newer car would certainty look at newer version of it.

KwackerJack

thegodlife wrote: »

I would look at the Kia sorento, I have an old one now but previously when things were good with me drove XC90, XC70 and Discovery. Feel it compares very well much cheaper than the Volvos and not as big a tank as the Landrover. If things improve for me again and looking towards a newer car would certainty look at newer version of it.

I did....very nice and goos specs but at 50k I'd rather sway towards a used Discovery or Range Rover.

I myself had a top spec 06 GSE Sorento and did find it very nice

pablo128

A new Vitara diesel auto 4x4 is 31k ex works. She's only a 1.6 though.

colm_mcm

Are you sure the sportage has a low range box?

Stephenc66

My choice second hand would be a discovery I think that they tick all the boxes perfectly

KwackerJack

colm_mcm wrote: »

Are you sure the sportage has a low range box?

According to the sales guy it has. I had a discussion about the range of jeeps/suv that do not offer low range and he said the Sportage has that option!!

Maybe he was wrong but he did say it was an electric switch to lock her into low

KwackerJack

Stephenc66 wrote: »

My choice second hand would be a discovery I think that they tick all the boxes perfectly

I really like the Disco's......question is will the other half!

Going into Landrover this week to have a look

bazz26

I hope you have deep pockets for the potential repair bills on the Disco, it will definitely do the job but they can be high maintenance.

ltdslipdiff

RAV4 Hybrid AWD? No low range but super effective off road? Motor on each rear wheel. 1600kg towing capacity?

thegodlife

KwackerJack wrote: »

I really like the Disco's......question is will the other half!

Going into Landrover this week to have a look

My OH found the disco a bit big and avoided driving it as much as possible although not intended it became my primary car and I found it heavy on juice and repairs.

KwackerJack

I'll check out the Rav 4.......should be pretty reliable to.

Yes the Disco's are hard and juice and do give some issues.....I will let my oh drive them also and she what she thinks.

Kia Sportage do not have the auto tailgate, I actually asked kia why as this option is available in other countries anx on other similar makes......response below

Its not a necessity, however if other similar makes have it then why choose Kia?

"Thank you for your interest in the all-new Sportage.

We’d love to include everything, but the cost to the customer would go too high were we to include too much of the available tech, this is because of factory costs and the cost to bring the cars into the country. But each country is different and so we would have extras in our cars that other markets would not have – it’s just the way that the motor industry and taxation works sadly.

I hope you do go ahead and purchase a new Sportage, overall they are very well spec’d and lovely cars to drive! We will have a new GT Line available in 2017 and the 2017 models will also have Android Auto and Apple Car Play"

Lex Luthor

Just to let you know the CR-V AWD is a 1.6 bi-turbo 160bhp
I've had one for a year and find it great, bigger than expected on the inside
I'm averaging 5.8l/100km in mixed driving
On long runs it can go as low as 5.2l/100km

R.O.R

http://www.carzone.ie/used-cars/volvo/xc60/used-2011-volvo-xc60-d5-se-luxury-donegal-fpa-1881737597098102455

No idea on towing capacity or off road capability, but it's a very torquey engine so should be up to the job of towing a decent sized trailer. Have a 2010 manual version - despite AWD and over 200 horses, it's not quick, but low/mid range torque is on par with 3.0 diesel engines.

Furthest off road it's been is the beach and it coped more than adequately there. Probably capable of traversing wet/muddy fields with a trailer in tow, but wouldn't fancy taking it up the side of a mountain.

Stephenc66

KwackerJack wrote: »

I really like the Disco's......question is will the other half!

Going into Landrover this week to have a look

I know they are quite big but if you are into out door activities the boot is huge, it just swallows gear.

I have done a fair bit of towing (large heavy loads) with a three different Disco's from 2011 to the present one and having experience of towing with quite a few SUVs incl a V10 VW Touraeg the Disco is far and away the best.

bazz26

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Just to let you know the CR-V AWD is a 1.6 bi-turbo 160bhp
I've had one for a year and find it great, bigger than expected on the inside
I'm averaging 5.8l/100km in mixed driving
On long runs it can go as low as 5.2l/100km

What are they like for acceleration? I know they are 160bhp and have two turbos but the CR-V is a big/heavy vehicle and the AWD drive train adds more weight again.

Lex Luthor

bazz26 wrote: »

What are they like for acceleration? I know they are 160bhp and have two turbos but the CR-V is a big/heavy vehicle and the AWD drive train adds more weight again.

Not bad...I wouldn't say its as quick off the block compared to my 150bhp Legacy diesel, but for its size, its ok

You do have to drop it a gear (maybe 2) especially in 6th if you want to overtake quickly, but its sufficient enough for my needs

I was down in Cork a few months ago and needed to get to a family gathering quickly with my brother in law and he said it was quicker than he expected it to be for such a big car

Its not a permanent AWD afaik, its just used if needed and on take off. Then goes to FWD to conserve fuel

KwackerJack

Just seen the new Seat Ateca, did not get a test drive yet but I have to say the quality is quite impressive and so is the spec.

High spec comes in at 43k but thats with every option bar the panoramic sunroof. Has all the extras you can think of including park and lane assist

Lex Luthor

What I like aswell about the CR-V is the flat floor in the back - no transmission tunnel so the middle seat passenger doesn't feel cramped

biko

Subaru Forester

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSG-pF1LXHI

monseiur

For class, reliability, value for money, pulling power, comfort, safety and depreciation proof look no further that the Toyota Land Cruiser ....ask any farmer. Unlike other 4x4 it straddles the urban/rural divide!

Lex Luthor

biko wrote: »

Subaru Forester

Read through boards on issues with diesel boxer engines...hence the reason I'm no longer driving my Legacy

KwackerJack

monseiur wrote: »

For class, reliability, value for money, pulling power, comfort, safety and depreciation proof look no further that the Toyota Land Cruiser ....ask any farmer. Unlike other 4x4 it straddles the urban/rural divide!

My first choice...... but she thinks its to much of a mans jeep!!

biko

Lex Luthor wrote: »

Read through boards on issues with diesel boxer engines...hence the reason I'm no longer driving my Legacy

I used to own a petrol Forester and loved it to bits. I am even considering selling my current car to buy another Forester.

KwackerJack

biko wrote: »

I used to own a petrol Forester and loved it to bits. I am even considering selling my current car to buy another Forester.

I really like the outback, however the 2.5 turbo is only pushing out 162 which I find low for a 2.5.....maybe its high in torque


Test drove the new seat Ateca 2.0 turbo diesel....was very impressed with the Quality and spec.

Handled very well with little corner roll and acceleration was good for an SUV. Has race, snow, off road and custom setting for the AWD which is basically VW 4motion

Has large touch screen which can fully connect to any android via usb or bluetooth. Has no sat nav but your phone's sat nav will be shown on screen. Has wireless charging pad for your phone.

Heated leather seats, cruise control, reversing camera and sensors. Lane control ect

Quality inside is as you would expect from top spec VW and vidoes show good off road capabilities.

40k ish for top spec auto

Apparently limited stock available......or so they say

Lex Luthor

biko wrote: »

I used to own a petrol Forester and loved it to bits. I am even considering selling my current car to buy another Forester.

do your research if you do
there's lots on here about premature failures of the boxer diesel

MidMan25

Far too many opinions being offered by the other half :pac:

KwackerJack

MidMan25 wrote: »

Far too many opinions being offered by the other half :pac:

Not all is lost....viewing an X5, Range Rover Sport & vouge tomorrow.