Mini Cooper SD engine

nsa0bupkd3948x

I'm looking at a 151 Mini Hatch Cooper SD. When I put it into Cartell/motor check it comes out as 2015 Mini Cooper SD G2 XT72 4DR. Would I be correct in saying XT72 is the engine code? I can't seem to get any reviews of the engine online.

colm_mcm

It should be the BMW B47 engine, same as a later (2014 on) 518d/520d far as I know.

nsa0bupkd3948x

colm_mcm wrote: »

It should be the BMW B47 engine, same as a later (2014 on) 518d/520d far as I know.

Would it be considered reliable enough engine? 10 mile commute on country roads and the odd long spin on the motorway.

drunkmonkey

Why you looking at diesel with such small mileage, through caution to the wind and get a copper s, cheaper and faster.

punisher5112

Op stay clear of diesel. Petrol only way with that mileage.

I'm doing around 500 miles a week in a 2lr petrol

nsa0bupkd3948x

punisher5112 wrote: »

Op stay clear of diesel. Petrol only way with that mileage.

I'm doing around 500 miles a week in a 2lr petrol

It's not for me but for a friend. They're set on diesel, I've tried to convince them otherwise but was unsuccessful. If it has to be a diesel, is this unit solid enough?

punisher5112

Cara Greasy Vomit wrote: »

It's not for me but for a friend. They're set on diesel, I've tried to convince them otherwise but was unsuccessful. If it has to be a diesel, is this unit solid enough?

Yes but they will be plagued with huge service bills and extra expenses.

They are mad.

FortySeven

Cara Greasy Vomit wrote: »

It's not for me but for a friend. They're set on diesel, I've tried to convince them otherwise but was unsuccessful. If it has to be a diesel, is this unit solid enough?

Why get involved in such a stupid decision? Tell them to buy a petrol and walk away. Let whoever it is make their own mistake.

nsa0bupkd3948x

FortySeven wrote: »

Why get involved in such a stupid decision? Tell them to buy a petrol and walk away. Let whoever it is make their own mistake.

They've been told to stick with diesel cause buying a petrol mini is burning money. I just want to make sure they get a good diesel even if it's much worse then a petrol

FortySeven

Cara Greasy Vomit wrote: »

They've been told to stick with diesel cause buying a petrol mini is burning money. I just want to make sure they get a good diesel even if it's much worse then a petrol

There is no such thing as a good diesel for short journeys. Why get involved? Clearly your opinion doesn't matter if they are insisting on getting a diesel on someone else's advice.

Tell them they're wrong and let the other advisor take the strain when it breaks.

drunkmonkey

The guys are right, tell them your advice is get the cooper s, if they want the diesel go ask somone else as your sources are telling you there crackers buying the tractor.

Get them to drive both.

Special Circumstances

Cara Greasy Vomit wrote: »

They've been told to stick with diesel cause buying a petrol mini is burning money.

20mile roundtrip is burning money but they can afford a newer car? What's it costing in petrol a week, €25? €30?

colm_mcm

I reckon they mean depreciation rather than running costs

Leonard Hofstadter

Would a petrol Cooper S be hard to shift? I know it's a niche choice, but I would have thought even in Ireland anyone who wants a fast supermini would want it to be petrol rather than diesel powered? If I was in the market for a fast Mini there's no way I'd buy a diesel one, lower road tax or not.

The current generation Mini uses the B37 and B47 diesel engines throughout the range, I think the earliest Cooper SDs are 168 bhp, but I know they've been doing the same 187 bhp version that's found in various x20d BMWs for stuff like the Countryman and other models as they switch over from the R56 generation.

grogi

captainspeed wrote: »

Would a petrol Cooper S be hard to shift? I know it's a niche choice, but I would have thought even in Ireland anyone who wants a fast supermini would want it to be petrol rather than diesel powered? If I was in the market for a fast Mini there's no way I'd buy a diesel one, lower road tax or not.

The current generation Mini uses the B37 and B47 diesel engines throughout the range, I think the earliest Cooper SDs are 168 bhp, but I know they've been doing the same 187 bhp version that's found in various x20d BMWs for stuff like the Countryman and other models as they switch over from the R56 generation.

Cooper S would be the easiest mini to shift in fairness, while SD making no sense...

Hardly any enthusiast would look at the diesel, while non-enthusiast will not pay a dime more for Mini SD than regular Mini D

colm_mcm

I think you overestimate the car buying public.

drunkmonkey

Until they stick the n57 in a mini buy the petrol.

vectra

FortySeven wrote: »

There is no such thing as a good diesel for short journeys. Why get involved? Clearly your opinion doesn't matter if they are insisting on getting a diesel on someone else's advice.

Tell them they're wrong and let the other advisor take the strain when it breaks.

Thats strange,
I have been driving diesels for mostly short journeys since 2008 and never had an issue with them.

Special Circumstances

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Until they stick the n57 in a mini buy the petrol.

Hmmm the latest petrol engines seem to have crankshaft thrust bearings recalls for some models. You'd be afraid that it would turn into another N47 no recall, no goodwill, shortlived quality assurance program, some good will, flip a coin sort of experience.

punisher5112

vectra wrote: »

Thats strange,
I have been driving diesels for mostly short journeys since 2008 and never had an issue with them.

What years and do you keep them long.

You may well get away without issue for a year or two but modern diesel engines and all the emissions gizmos they have creates major expense .

vectra

punisher5112 wrote: »

What years and do you keep them long.

You may well get away without issue for a year or two but modern diesel engines and all the emissions gizmos they have creates major expense .

What year did the OP post and did he mention how long the car would be kep't?

nsa0bupkd3948x

vectra wrote: »

What year did the OP post and did he mention how long the car would be kep't?

It be kept for 5 years+. It's 151

vectra

Cara Greasy Vomit wrote: »

It be kept for 5 years+. It's 151

My 08 Cordoba 1.4 tdi, I sold with 26k on the clock.
it is now close on 100k and never missed a beat.

My white 2010 vRS I sold with almost identical mileage.
It is now around 60k, One front suspension leg went.
Other than that it has been a dream. Not one issue.

My 2013 vRS combi I sould with 17k on the clock.
Last time I spoke with the new owner he had close on 50k on it. That was a few months ago. I can only imagine it is now close on 60k as well
He cannot parise the car enough..

I dont get this hatred for diesel cars.

ambro25

Special Circumstances wrote: »

20mile roundtrip is burning money but they can afford a newer car? What's it costing in petrol a week, €25? €30?

I've been commuting a 32-mile roundtrip (16/16) in a Cooper S ('08 convertible) a good while, and can vouch that it'll be substantially more than that

I can't get any better than 32-33 mpg with nursing it and liberal use of cruise control (-when I try, which is arguably not that often).

Second car is a C220 CDI. That's not used for the commute (unless I have to go someplace and look respectable :pac:), but mostly used for family outings and long trips. Much less daily miles being put on that, but many more miles aggregate than the Cooper S, is the way to do it.

FortySeven

vectra wrote: »

My 08 Cordoba 1.4 tdi, I sold with 26k on the clock.
it is now close on 100k and never missed a beat.

My white 2010 vRS I sold with almost identical mileage.
It is now around 60k, One front suspension leg went.
Other than that it has been a dream. Not one issue.

My 2013 vRS combi I sould with 17k on the clock.
Last time I spoke with the new owner he had close on 50k on it. That was a few months ago. I can only imagine it is now close on 60k as well
He cannot parise the car enough..

I dont get this hatred for diesel cars.

You've been lucky really. I sell parts for 6 major franchises and the emission restrictions are killing engine components left right and center, they just soot up. Short journeys kill egrs, dpfs and problems slwsyd with high pressure fuel delivery eg injectors, pumps.

Diesels are grand for motorway munching but in my experience and talking to our franchised technicians it is generally accepted that Euro 6 emission standards will be the death knell for the devils fuel.

vectra

FortySeven wrote: »

You've been lucky really. I sell parts for 6 major franchises and the emission restrictions are killing engine components left right and center, they just soot up. Short journeys kill egrs, dpfs and problems slwsyd with high pressure fuel delivery eg injectors, pumps.

Diesels are grand for motorway munching but in my experience and talking to our franchised technicians it is generally accepted that Euro 6 emission standards will be the death knell for the devils fuel.

Maybe I was lucky.
my current car is EU6 and so far so good. almost 14k on it which includes loads of short trips