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Haye vs Bellew

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  • #572
    snowflaker
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    For Haye to carry on after that injury was extraordinary. If he was in Germany to get that checked out because he had an issue, he should have pulled out. I can't believe he carried on and people question his heart! Don't know what they are talking about.

    Idiotic I'd call it. He still was well beaten.


  • #573
    snowflaker
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    PeterTheNinth wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that ... Tyson Fury has been on the blower anyway..


    https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury

    Christ. Fury showing his class


  • #574
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    snowflaker wrote: »
    A Little Pony wrote: »
    For Haye to carry on after that injury was extraordinary. If he was in Germany to get that checked out because he had an issue, he should have pulled out. I can't believe he carried on and people question his heart! Don't know what they are talking about.

    Idiotic I'd call it. He still was well beaten.
    Sacrificing his health for a few million quid by the sounds of it. He should be well beaten after that injury.


  • #575
    snowflaker
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Sacrificing his health for a few million quid by the sounds of it. He should be well beaten after that injury.

    What did he achieve by continuing??? He got his purse regardless


  • #576
    megadodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭megadodge


    snowflaker wrote: »
    What did he achieve by continuing???


    Respect.



    From boxing people!!


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  • #577
    snowflaker
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    pac_man wrote: »
    Haye's timing and speed have understandably deteriorated but Bellew deserves credit in making him miss.

    Not much credit. Give me Lomachenko any day


  • #578
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    megadodge wrote: »
    Respect.



    From boxing people!!

    Not this one


  • #579
    A Little Pony
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    Got to respect the warrior element to it though, even if it is daft.


  • #580
    snowflaker
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    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Got to respect the warrior element to it though, even if it is daft.

    I don't respect idiocy


  • #581
    Burial.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,131 ✭✭✭Burial.


    snowflaker wrote: »
    Not much credit. Give me Lomachenko any day

    Oh yeah because Loma f*cking chenko is a relevant comparison to 15/16 stone 6 footers....


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  • #582
    12gauge dave
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    Another farce of a fight courtesy of eddie hearn.


  • #583
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    Burial. wrote: »
    Oh yeah because Loma f*cking chenko is a relevant comparison to 15/16 stone 6 footers....

    I don't really like heavyweight boxing nowadays


  • #584
    megadodge
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    I don't really like heavyweight boxing nowadays

    Because you don't watch it.

    Go onto youtube and watch Dominic Breazeale v Izu Ugonoh. It only happened last weekend. Tell me how awful boxing is after you watch that.


  • #585
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    megadodge wrote: »
    Because you don't watch it.

    Go onto youtube and watch Dominic Breazeale v Izu Ugonoh. It only happened last weekend. Tell me how awful boxing is after you watch that.

    I'll look it up. Cheers.


  • #586
    PeterTheNinth
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    snowflaker wrote: »
    What did he achieve by continuing??? He got his purse regardless

    Can you imagine if he had quit. This is the David Haye who pulled out of the Fury fight because of a toe, and has been somewhat unfairly given the reputation as being "conveniently injured" when it suits him. There was no way he was gonna compound things by pulling out of this fight with an injury.


  • #587
    nacho libre
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    Johner wrote: »
    Haye did show great heart but he came in to end that fight early, I think Bellew would have would anyway, Haye's stamina was gone and was fighting on instinct, still doesn't show Bellew in a great light that he couldn't finish it earlier but I doubt he really gives a ****. Weird interview after though from Haye, fair play for not making excuses but no mention at all of the injury?

    Given his previous antics in citing an injury as to why he lost, he couldn't be seen to mention the injury in the post fight interview.

    I have to give credit to Bellew,even though Haye's speed and reflexes are not what they once were, Bellew slipped a lot of shots, and withstood some heavy shots when he was tagged. If there is to be a rematch, Haye should come in lighter. I still think Bellew will be soundly beaten by Usyk at Crusierweight.


  • #588
    shamrock55
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    pac_man wrote: »
    What do you all make on the corner throwing the towel in? Right time to throw it in or was he right to throw it in at all?

    The knock down wasn't all that conclusive and I still thought that Haye will always be in with a shout with that power.

    He couldnt throw a punch though,believe it or not you need your legs to throw a puch,try and throw a punch standing on one leg it just cant be done


  • #589
    snowflaker
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    pac_man wrote: »
    What do you all make on the corner throwing the towel in? Right time to throw it in or was he right to throw it in at all?

    The knock down wasn't all that conclusive and I still thought that Haye will always be in with a shout with that power.

    I thought the result was a TKO?


  • #590
    PeterTheNinth
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    pac_man wrote: »
    You reckon he was injured before the fight. What's this Germany story that Bellew was talking about?

    Not sure about that, I was confused as well. I saw interviews from ifl on Thursday, when there was the rumour that Haye was pulling out because of injured shoulder. Johnny Nelson reckoned that Haye had made up the rumour himself so as to play mind games. Bellew seemed to indicate there was some sort of foreknowledge, without me fully understanding what he was on about.

    It's a shame, cos it was shaping up for a good enough contest.


  • #591
    snowflaker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭snowflaker


    ‪ http://m.bbc.com/sport/boxing/39170236‬

    Haye to undergo Achilles surgery


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  • #592
    nacho libre
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    pac_man wrote: »
    You reckon he was injured before the fight. What's this Germany story that Bellew was talking about?


    It got out that Haye had been to see a surgeon in Germany, with rumours suggesting it was about an achilles injury. Bellew brought it up at the press conference. Haye denied there was any problem.


  • #593
    shamrock55
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    pac_man wrote: »
    He was throwing right before the knock out, was just missing badly as has his legs couldn't give him to required leverage. I still thought that even when he was on the ropes, he was still potentially dangerous.

    I thought his best chance was to stay on the ropes tbh,do a bit of rope a dope


  • #594
    jimbev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 164 ✭✭jimbev


    Hayes come out and missed with everything for the first 4 rounds then the leg incident what do you think of Shane mcgugians cornering skills


  • #595
    Sweet Science
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    jimbev wrote: »
    Hayes come out and missed with everything for the first 4 rounds then the leg incident what do you think of Shane mcgugians cornering skills

    He missed everything for the first 2 rounds because he was trying to take his head clean off . He listened to his corner then and utilised his jab which he followed up with a few power punches .

    By the time the Achilles popped I thought Haye was in complete control . Tony was very cagey at that point .

    Maybe Shane could of thrown the towel in earlier but going 6 rounds or so on one leg has helped Hayes rep after the toe fiasco in Germany


  • #596
    walshb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,599 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Why did the interviewer not ask or mention about Haye wobbling around the ring like a new born giraffe? Everyone else seemed to twig that Haye was injured from rd 5 onwards...

    Bellew was in survival mode up until the injury occurred.

    AJ, you can relax even more now. Haye would have next to no chance against you.


  • #597
    Sweet Science
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    walshb wrote: »
    Why did the interviewer not ask or mention about Haye wobbling around the ring like a new born giraffe? Everyone else seemed to twig that Haye was injured from rd 5 onwards...

    I have no idea it was the question everyone wanted to be asked . In in a strange way Haye comes out of this better than Bellew .

    I mean he was fighting a man who couldn't walk or throw a punch or even keep his balance and couldn't get him out of there .

    And then his trainer and Hearn celebrate like its the end of Rocky 4 . Please


  • #598
    walshb
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    Sweet Science wrote: »
    I have no idea it was the question everyone wanted to be asked . In in a strange way Haye comes out of this better than Bellew .

    I mean he was fighting a man who couldn't walk or throw a punch or even keep his balance and couldn't get him out of there .

    And then his trainer and Hearn celebrate like its the end of Rocky 4 . Please

    It had to be the most obvious question to ask. What went wrong, David? You were moving around like someone carrying an injury from rds 5 onwards.


  • #599
    Mental Mickey
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    Sweet Science wrote: »
    I have no idea it was the question everyone wanted to be asked . In in a strange way Haye comes out of this better than Bellew .

    I mean he was fighting a man who couldn't walk or throw a punch or even keep his balance and couldn't get him out of there .

    And then his trainer and Hearn celebrate like its the end of Rocky 4 . Please

    One word: hype


  • #600
    Sweet Science
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    walshb wrote: »
    It had to be the most obvious question to ask. What went wrong, David? You were moving around like someone carrying an injury from rds 5 onwards.

    It was the elephant in the room . It's as if everyone may have known about this injury going into the fight . It would explain him coming out like a lunatic in round 1


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  • #601
    Dempsey
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    walshb wrote: »
    It had to be the most obvious question to ask. What went wrong, David? You were moving around like someone carrying an injury from rds 5 onwards.


    Because Sky are helping promote both fighters. They dont ask the questions that hurt their cash cows.

    They didnt want to help damage his rep like the toe incident did


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