Passengers *spoilers from post 58*

dunworth1

seen this today was ok some nice visuals

one or two face palm moments but otherwise decent

constitutionus

Chain Smoker wrote: »

Can you elaborate on why you don't need to see it in the cinema? There's surely some attempts at visual spectacle in it?

they DO try to present some nice visuals but TBH theyre not really relevant to the story and youve seen em all before elsewhere. the ships in deep space so theres bugger all around and

it only passes a star once on a slingshot which the trailers implied was the "disaster" element of the story and why they woke up but in the film was a scheduled event and no threat at all. they just look at it from an observation level, then go about their usual business.

even the zero G swimming pool scene- which is nicely done- takes place in a fairly small room and doesnt really add to anything..

if you contrast the visuals to say - Dr Strange- which i would say is one you'd need to see in the cinema as it wont be as good on the small screen you see the difference pretty quickly.

mainly because of the format of the story.

it really is just two people for the majority of the film talking to each other in three settings.

the bar, the fancy apartment, and the canteen.

IMO there really is no "wow" factor in it so you dont lose anything waiting to see it on telly.

tunguska

Mr E wrote: »

Saw this last night and enjoyed it. A solid 7/10 for me.

The reviews are overly harsh - it doesn't deserve the roasting that it got.

Agreed. Its decent enough. For me though i kept waiting for the plot twist........which never came. Too straight forward, there needed to be more going on.

joe40

Just saw this movie last night and I would agree it was a fairly enjoyable show but I would have preferred if they had both woken up by accident. His actions are just so unforgivable it actually ruined the show for me to a certain extent.

eviltimeban

I don't disagree with any of the above. In fact, they could've had it that they either both awoke randomly or she did randomly after him. After all,

Morpheus awoke randomly two years later

. It didn't need the whole plot point.

Saying that, I thought Chris Pratt conveyed the difficulty of the choice rather well - a year alone will drive anyone mad and he did seem a bit creepy with his Jim Morrison beard and hair. So that part was actually handled pretty well, as was her reaction to his actions. There seemed to be some acceptance of the act on her part, not giving into the abuse as it were, but a realisation that she couldn't actually change anything about the situation - she was awake, so might as well live her life.

Visually excellent. Good score too. I didn't predict the very end in fairness (

I thought at least she'd go back to sleep

) so that was good. I'd watch it again.

Watched this recently.

They really did show the fact that it wasn't a decision Pratt made easily. He was tormented about it for months and kept trying to convince himself not to do it, even up until the act itself.

And Lawrence's reaction upon realizing the truth, even almost killing Pratt afterwards, showed that there were severe repressions for his actions.

However, where I felt it came apart was at the end, when they were a happy couple once more and deeply in love.

Sad Professor

Spoilers allowed from this post onward.

D0NNELLY

Fecksake. Knew nothing about this going in.. watched in utter boredom to where the bartender tells her it was pratt who woke her....

"Ohhh, here we go, the robot is the baddie!!! He woke pratt up for some baddie reason!!!!!"

Expected a cross between aliens and the shining.....
No, just shïte.

Mezcita

Car crash of a film. 2/10.

TerrorFirmer

I was expecting the worst given the poor reception, so perhaps that in itself made it seem like a better film than I would have thought had I seen it in the cinema....but it's really not a bad film at all.

Good visuals, decent performances and story progresses at a decent pace considering it's almost two hours long with a minimalist cast. It's not perfect and there are some fairly big stretches in the narrative, but if you're willing to just it as it is, it's a very enjoyable film.

Very predictable though, I would have liked a twist or two, I sort of felt like I was waiting for a revelation that never happened.

Overall though very decent and I'd consider it a pretty solid 7/10.

FortuneChip

Really wanted to like this, but couldn't.

The "happy" ending is way too much of a leap.

I dunno if I'd heard something, read something, or just imagined it, but I kept waiting for Jim to die at the end, Aurora be left alone and have to decide whether or not to wake someone else up.
Honestly would have preferred that to both the ending we actually got, and and ending in the book. Would have helped to make her character more interesting. Obviously her reaction to finding out the truth was a big moment, but considering she's happy enough to forgive him and even commit to their isolated life rather than go back to sleep - it cheapens any tension.

A Neurotic

FortuneChip wrote: »

Really wanted to like this, but couldn't.

The "happy" ending is way too much of a leap.

I dunno if I'd heard something, read something, or just imagined it, but I kept waiting for Jim to die at the end, Aurora be left alone and have to decide whether or not to wake someone else up.
Honestly would have preferred that to both the ending we actually got, and and ending in the book. Would have helped to make her character more interesting. Obviously her reaction to finding out the truth was a big moment, but considering she's happy enough to forgive him and even commit to their isolated life rather than go back to sleep - it cheapens any tension.

Wiki doesn't have anything about a book?

TerrorFirmer

He means the book at the centre of Lawrence's character in the movie.

FortuneChip

A Neurotic wrote: »

Wiki doesn't have anything about a book?

Sorry, I meant the original script - just assumed it was a book.

I would have loved a Mist-style bleak ending, with Lawrence killing Pratt, only to discover that everyone was waking up anyway - the computer's malfunctions caused it to get the dates wrong.

Sad Professor

FortuneChip wrote: »

The "happy" ending is way too much of a leap.

I dunno if I'd heard something, read something, or just imagined it, but I kept waiting for Jim to die at the end, Aurora be left alone and have to decide whether or not to wake someone else up.

Yeah, this is really the ending that the ethical dilemma posed by the premise demanded and in a traditional science fiction story would have received. The ending that we got was the conventional Hollywood third act in which the problem of the premise is temporarily abandoned in favour of plot and spectacle that brushes the aforementioned problem under the carpet before a last minute deus ex reveal resolves it.

I don’t like it but it’s screenwriting 101 for Hollywood writers. And to the film’s credit, Pratt’s death, resurrection and attempt to put things right is a pretty good resolution to the premise's dilemma as it allows Lawrence to make the choice previously denied her. Yeah it’s a boring happy ending with a predictable third act but... I’ve seen far worse.

I’d have preferred the darker, Twilight Zone version, but I liked it fine as it was. It’s basically a romantic sci-fi movie, which is different if nothing else. And contrary to the feminist criticisms, it does deal with its ethical problem. Perhaps cheaply and in an overly conventional way not in vogue at the moment, but it does it. Yeah Pratt is an a**hole for what he did but he redeems himself.

mightyreds

I enjoyed it I would of preferred like a few that Jim died and she was tortured alone for a while and decided to wake someone, either that or she woke on homestead after choosing sleep, but good turn off your brain flick

Skerries

I definitely felt that Arthur was going to be more malevolent as we see the robocam look at him at one stage at it whizzes past so I thought we might have seen something there
Also the fact that he looks like the bartender from The Overlook Hotel with matching infamous carpet

Kirby

While I was watching it, I thought the "ship" would wake her up as he stood in the airlock about to space himself recognizing he needed some company but I liked the films choice better. There was more weight to it.

I cannot fathom some of the reaction his decision to wake her up has gotten. People calling it unforgivable. How exactly? He didn't want to be alone. Nobody would. Truth be told I'm a solitary enough fellow but I dont think I would make it a year. I find the decision completely understandable. People are very quick to judge. Put yourself in the same position and ask yourself honestly what you would do. Not what you think the right thing to do is....but what you might actually do.

Similarly I find the prospect of her forgiving him equally understandable. Some folks going on that a "real person would never forgive" but frankly I find that a very juvenile way of thinking. Life tends not to work out that way.

She understood him at the end when he was about to go out the airlock to save them. She begged him not to leave her alone and then she risked her own life to go rescue him to make sure of it. Anger is a temporary emotion and isn't practical long term. I think most people would understand this.

I agree that perhaps a stronger ending would have been him dying and her wrestling with the same decision to wake somebody else up......and ultimately succumbing to it. That ending may not have tested as well but I think it would have made a more impactful ending.

Anywho, I thought it was a fine film. Well worth the watch and more fuel to my own belief that critics know f*ck all about what makes for an enjoyable watch.

bodhrandude

I felt the last half hour was maybe rushed a bit and when the problem was resolved, what was stopping the ship from running into another asteroid field I mean it still had another 88 years to reach the planet. Still enjoyed it though, a visual feast.

Nerdlingr

Good first half, paint by numbers second half. Disappointed really because there's a very good story / moral dilemma trying to break out but they never really let it and just go down the rom-drama route.

Stone Deaf 4evr

Kirby wrote: »

While I was watching it, I thought the "ship" would wake her up as he stood in the airlock about to space himself recognizing he needed some company but I liked the films choice better. There was more weight to it.

I cannot fathom some of the reaction his decision to wake her up has gotten. People calling it unforgivable. How exactly? He didn't want to be alone. Nobody would. Truth be told I'm a solitary enough fellow but I dont think I would make it a year. I find the decision completely understandable. People are very quick to judge. Put yourself in the same position and ask yourself honestly what you would do. Not what you think the right thing to do is....but what you might actually do.

Similarly I find the prospect of her forgiving him equally understandable. Some folks going on that a "real person would never forgive" but frankly I find that a very juvenile way of thinking. Life tends not to work out that way.

She understood him at the end when he was about to go out the airlock to save them. She begged him not to leave her alone and then she risked her own life to go rescue him to make sure of it. Anger is a temporary emotion and isn't practical long term. I think most people would understand this.

I agree that perhaps a stronger ending would have been him dying and her wrestling with the same decision to wake somebody else up......and ultimately succumbing to it. That ending may not have tested as well but I think it would have made a more impactful ending.

Anywho, I thought it was a fine film. Well worth the watch and more fuel to my own belief that critics know f*ck all about what makes for an enjoyable watch.

I just wonder why they didnt take turns in the medbay chamber, they would have arrived at their destinations aged in their mid 60's roughly?

LongIslandOak

I watched this last night, I really enjoyed it. One of the best movies I've seen in a long time

Keplar240B

Kirby wrote: »

............

Put yourself in the same position and ask yourself honestly what you would do. Not what you think the right thing to do is....but what you might actually do.

..............

I would have woke up about 5.

JP Liz V1

I do like the ship's design

AMKC

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I do like the ship's design

It certainly is a stunning looking ship.

I was raging I never got to see this in the cinema.

Very good film and I looked great to. A good story too. The ending could have been better do instead of leaving us hanging like that. Did they both die of old age? Were they alive when everyone else wakes up? Why did they not have children? Maybe they did? I suppose we got to use our own imagination for the ending. Might check out the blu-ray see if there is any good extra's on it.

fryup

watched it last night....pretentious bollix

Thargor

Was it ever explained why they didnt wake any experts up to help them when they got into the command section? Or did they even need to when there were people like Laurence Fishburne lying around?

Stupid film anyway, massive potential if they'd gone a bit darker with the whole thing, could have been a masterpiece but instead you get generic Jennifer Lawrence character falling in love with generic Chris Pratt character because he's such a hunk.

Arghus

My 73 year old father's review - "There wasn't much too it."

I think he was on the ball there.

mooseknunkle

There's so many questions that this film gave me but overall i thought it was a good movie,maybe they did have kids and a sequel would be about them living on the other planet?

One thing i kept thinking throughout it is,why did everyone on the crew need to be asleep for the whole 120 years!,they could of had 12 crews working a 10yr shift,crew one works the first 10yrs then wakes up crew two,repeat every 10yrs!,but sure there would be no movie if that happened

pixelburp

Strange film to be dredged up; didn't find it particularly remarkable in any direction. Stunningly mediocre. A crafty editor could have some fun with a version making Chris Pratt's character less the charming, well-meaning leading man, and more a creepy stalker. The film did address that true, but honestly I never bought into its attempts to square off the Inciting Incident. I strongly suspect the fact it was starring two of Hollywood's most (conventionally) beautiful stars caused a rewrite somewhere in production. Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence must bone and want it.

Thargor

pixelburp wrote: »

Strange film to be dredged up.

It was RTEs bank holiday film.

mikhail

pixelburp wrote: »

Strange film to be dredged up; didn't find it particularly remarkable in any direction. Stunningly mediocre.

I seem to remember liking the set design (if a little generically iFuture), and thinking Michael Sheen did well with a minor role. Otherwise, yes. Enjoyed it for what it was, but not especially memorable.