ALDI rip off prices in Ireland

Going Forward

https://www.aldi.ie/wireless-amp-speaker/p/073200101718800

A"special buy" priced at €49.99 for Eire

Which is sold across the border for just £29.99

At the current £ to € rate, £29.99 is just €35.32...

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/73200/0

And it's the same for every other "special offer".

Nice to know the German discounter isn't discounting too much for us.

https://www.aldi.ie/vintage-suitcase-turntable/p/072413101722600

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72413/0


Oddly enough, this little baby is €34.99 here and is £29.99 there

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72505/0

hullaballoo

Níl a fhios agam cad atá á rá agat ar chor ar bith! :pac:

Seolaithe chuig Consumer Issues.

Consumer issues charter now applies.

dudara

Moved to Rip Off Ireland

dudara

Walter2016

Going Forward wrote: »

https://www.aldi.ie/wireless-amp-speaker/p/073200101718800

A"special buy" priced at €49.99 for Eire

Which is sold across the border for just £29.99

At the current £ to € rate, £29.99 is just €35.32...

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/73200/0

And it's the same for every other "special offer".

Nice to know the German discounter isn't discounting too much for us.

https://www.aldi.ie/vintage-suitcase-turntable/p/072413101722600

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72413/0


Oddly enough, this little baby is €34.99 here and is £29.99 there

https://www.aldi.co.uk/p/72505/0

These posts have become sooooooooooooooooooooo boring.

My oh my a store in another country with a different currency and different tax rates and different staff costs has a different price on a product.

btw, there are no aldi stores in NI

Can there be a ban on this type of post?

rubadub

Walter2016 wrote: »

Can there be a ban on this type of post?

the funniest bit was when he gave an example of an item being cheaper here.

Going Forward wrote: »

Nice to know the German discounter isn't discounting too much for us.

The price of the item was higher, we have no idea if they are making more profit selling it here though.

vicwatson

A Frozen Dessert on xmas special

UK - Stg 4.99
https://www.aldi.co.uk/specially-selected-croquembouche/p/071984104760000

Ireland - Eur 7.99
https://www.aldi.ie/specially-selected-croquembouche/p/071984104760000

If that's not profiteering I dont know what is

Exact same product

rubadub

vicwatson wrote: »

If that's not profiteering I dont know what is

can you please give your definition of "profiteering" so, as I don't think your example would fit any definition I have ever heard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiteering_(business)

http://www.onelook.com/?w=profiteer&ls=a

nc6000

vicwatson wrote: »

A Frozen Dessert on xmas special

UK - Stg 4.99
https://www.aldi.co.uk/specially-selected-croquembouche/p/071984104760000

Ireland - Eur 7.99
https://www.aldi.ie/specially-selected-croquembouche/p/071984104760000

If that's not profiteering I dont know what is

Exact same product

I tried making one of those a few years back and I would consider €7.99 to be an absolute bargain for that.

colm_mcm

That's for nothing.

ben.schlomo

Great value, thanks for the tip.

dashcamdanny

Tesco are the same.Scam artists.

Just go to the both tesco sites and pick any expensive wine .

For example.
In Ireland Moat 45e
In N.Ireland Moat 26 pound

https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=255245509
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=255245509

https://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=280116882
http://www.tesco.com/groceries/product/details/?id=280116882

rubadub

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Tesco are the same.Scam artists.

can you please give your definition of "scam artist"

Are the bottles full of water or something? maybe I am missing something here.


still wondering about this one too...

rubadub wrote: »

can you please give your definition of "profiteering" so, as I don't think your example would fit any definition I have ever heard.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profiteering_(business)

http://www.onelook.com/?w=profiteer&ls=a

dashcamdanny

rubadub wrote: »

can you please give your definition of "scam artist"

Are the bottles full of water or something? maybe I am missing something here.


still wondering about this one too...

The quote scam artist fit nicely rubadub. Would you not agree?

Double the price once one travels over the border.

Tax, wages and so on does not warrant a near 50% markup on products.
If everyone was aware of such a mark up each time they shop in Aldi, Tesco or the like, they may have a few more choice words other than scammers.

L1011

There is higher duty on all alcohol expect strong beer in Ireland - especially cider and sparkling wines. Prices are not viably comparable.

davo10

dashcamdanny wrote: »

The quote scam artist fit nicely rubadub. Would you not agree?

Double the price once one travels over the border.

Tax, wages and so on does not warrant a near 50% markup on products.
If everyone was aware of such a mark up each time they shop in Aldi, Tesco or the like, they may have a few more choice words other than scammers.

You will have to do your maths again, the Moët is on special offer in UK, normal price is £32.50/ €39.50. That's a saving of €6, and that is not even taking into account the difference in vat and the cost of travel. Some scam.

dashcamdanny

davo10 wrote: »

You will have to do your maths again, the Moët is on special offer in UK, normal price is £32.50/ €39.50. That's a saving of €6, and that is not even taking into account the difference in vat and the cost of travel. Some scam.

Ok. There is always some sort of deal in tesco. Like the 25% of 6 and so on.

Move to the second example.
The malbec wine. 10er there and 20 here.

The cost of travel and vat for one bottle of wine in Ireland is not 10 euro extra.

They come over in Stobart trucks full to the neck. Not a DPD. Lets say 50c a bottle for transit. At best.

Duty is around €3.19 in Ireland
Duty is around €2.85 in the UK

Do you disagree we are being screwed over here?

This cushion is currently 16 euro in Tesco Naas. http://www.tesco.com/direct/red-check-cushion/192-5673.prd?skuId=192-5673&pageLevel=sku&icid=spiffy_cushions_192-5673_cushions

My good wife was shopping around for them and we noticed this last week..

L1011

dashcamdanny wrote: »

The cost of travel and vat for one bottle of wine in Ireland is not 10 euro extra.

The duty (and VAT on the duty) on the Malbec is €3.92 in Ireland and £2.49 in the UK
The duty (and VAT on the duty) on the Moet is €7.83 in Ireland and £3.20 in the UK

Add VAT on the rest of the cost, transport and also the additional costs of dealing with Irish Revenue and you're getting close; before dealing with the general costs of doing business - wages, land/construction/rent and insurance. Tesco have different offers in each country so comparing offer prices is irrelevant.

We live in a medium-high cost economy. The UK is a lower cost economy than here.. Prices are going to be different - and not considered a rip off.

Get Real

I think comparing prices in the uk and Ireland is a massive
fallacy.

As already pointed out, there are varying rates of tax, wages, waste disposal, property costs and the exchange rates fluctuate all the time.

£10 is about 12 euro now. Last year it was 14 euro.

If it sells here at a certain price that is "fair" relative to rates, taxes and national wages, why is it an issue what they sell it for in the uk, bearing in mind comparisons will always fluctuate and seem better or worse depending on the exchange rate, which is something over which a supermarket has no control.

Why not in that case compare to another Eurozone country, where direct comparison can be made?

For example,

Christmas products in LIDL Ireland- Macaroons 137g E3.99
Christmas products in LIDL Slovakia- Macaroons 120g E3.99

http://leaflet.lidl.ie/57db9aec-f5be-4e42-a13f-a3c79fc247ff/html5.html#/10

http://www.lidl.sk/sk/ponuka.htm?id=1220

They're the same price in Ireland for a bigger portion, even though consumers in Slovakia have much lower wages, at 380 Euro a month minimum wage

Consumers in Ireland earn roughly the same amount per week minimum wage as what people in Slovakia earn in a MONTH, yet we both pay the same for this product in the supermarket.

In my opinion, direct comparison with uk supermarkets needs to stop and actually, when you look at it, Irish consumers are doing very well in terms of Supermarket prices which are fair for the wages we are paid. Eurozone supermarkets are the same or a bit cheaper, but people in those countries earn alot less, so in relative terms we are much better off for groceries and essentials.

dashcamdanny

L1011 wrote: »

The duty (and VAT on the duty) on the Malbec is €3.92 in Ireland and £2.49 in the UK
The duty (and VAT on the duty) on the Moet is €7.83 in Ireland and £3.20 in the UK

Add VAT on the rest of the cost, transport and also the additional costs of dealing with Irish Revenue and you're getting close; before dealing with the general costs of doing business - wages, land/construction/rent and insurance. Tesco have different offers in each country so comparing offer prices is irrelevant.

We live in a medium-high cost economy. The UK is a lower cost economy than here.. Prices are going to be different - and not considered a rip off.

As I stated , they have their own contracted hauler for the UK and Ireland and items are bulk sent to a distribution center. Just like the Uk.
The UK also have all those costs you stated.
Construction , doing business, dealing with UK revenue and so on. You give the impression they are free of that cost anywhere but Ireland.

The bottle of malbec and the cushion are nearly near 100% higher pre promotion.

All of those reasons you give go no way near a valid explanation for a twice the price mark up. Its ridicules .

The fact that it is accepted because we are Irish is not acceptable. To me anyways.

Donal55

Get Real wrote: »

I think comparing prices in the uk and Ireland is a massive
fallacy.

As already pointed out, there are varying rates of tax, wages, waste disposal, property costs and the exchange rates fluctuate all the time.

£10 is about 12 euro now. Last year it was 14 euro.

If it sells here at a certain price that is "fair" relative to rates, taxes and national wages, why is it an issue what they sell it for in the uk, bearing in mind comparisons will always fluctuate and seem better or worse depending on the exchange rate, which is something over which a supermarket has no control.

Why not in that case compare to another Eurozone country, where direct comparison can be made?

For example,

Christmas products in LIDL Ireland- Macaroons 137g E3.99
Christmas products in LIDL Slovakia- Macaroons 120g E3.99

http://leaflet.lidl.ie/57db9aec-f5be-4e42-a13f-a3c79fc247ff/html5.html#/10

http://www.lidl.sk/sk/ponuka.htm?id=1220

They're the same price in Ireland for a bigger portion, even though consumers in Slovakia have much lower wages, at 380 Euro a month minimum wage

Consumers in Ireland earn roughly the same amount per week minimum wage as what people in Slovakia earn in a MONTH, yet we both pay the same for this product in the supermarket.

In my opinion, direct comparison with uk supermarkets needs to stop and actually, when you look at it, Irish consumers are doing very well in terms of Supermarket prices which are fair for the wages we are paid. Eurozone supermarkets are the same or a bit cheaper, but people in those countries earn alot less, so in relative terms we are much better off for groceries and essentials.

Yet some people have absolutely no problems when comparing wages with the UK or EU.

L1011

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Construction , doing business, dealing with UK revenue and so on. You give the impression they are free of that cost anywhere but Ireland.

All those costs are lower in the UK. The costs of dealing with HMRC are divided across a far greater volume of product.

dashcamdanny wrote: »

All of those reasons you give go no way near a valid explanation for a twice the price mark up. Its ridicules .

You refusing to accept rational explanations does not make them invalid. You have clearly set your opinion on this.

dashcamdanny wrote: »

The fact that it is accepted because we are Irish is not acceptable. To me anyways.

Its accepted because some people can see the wood for the trees; basically. If you were willing to be paid UK wages and pay UK local taxation and social insurance you could get UK retail prices. I suspect you aren't.

That we're joined on to a country doesn't make it a valid comparison base. Compare to another medium-high cost Northern European economy for alcohol prices and come back to me...

Walter2016

If you think its too expensive. Don't buy it.

It really is as simple as that.

If you still have an issue - move across the border.

But the whining that goes on about petty differences in prices is just atypical of a type of Irish person who searches for negatives in everything.

Maybe look at positives? Far lower density of population - means far less hassle shopping and getting to the stores.

Higher wages compared to uk.

Far less tax on lower earners - those earning under 35k a year pay far less tax than similar earner in uk.

Far greater children's allowances, far great social welfare and generally a far better standard of life.

Yet some people will still whine away over a couple of euro. The mind boggles.

dashcamdanny

Walter2016 wrote: »

If you think its too expensive. Don't buy it.

It really is as simple as that.

If you still have an issue - move across the border.

But the whining that goes on about petty differences in prices is just atypical of a type of Irish person who searches for negatives in everything.

Maybe look at positives? Far lower density of population - means far less hassle shopping and getting to the stores.

Higher wages compared to uk.

Far less tax on lower earners - those earning under 35k a year pay far less tax than similar earner in uk.

Far greater children's allowances, far great social welfare and generally a far better standard of life.

Yet some people will still whine away over a couple of euro. The mind boggles.

Your mind boggles?

I do understand there is extra expensive for UK companies to sell here.

But to say I am whining? What a crappy thing to say .. :mad: Why would you try and insult me .. I should move away also apparently. You need to settle yourself a bit behind your laptop pal. Your quite the warrior.

The examples I gave were nearly 100% more expensive, sold by the same company.

To highlight that is hardly whining.

Is it nearly 100% more expensive to mass sell here? No. Its not. If it is, tell me exactly how.
These extra cost, please break down the cost of that simple cushion I quoted. Please. Even a simple breakdown on how a red cushion is twice the price in Naas compared to Belfast.

Its quite ridicules. And not acceptable.

rubadub

dashcamdanny wrote: »

The quote scam artist fit nicely rubadub. Would you not agree?

Absolutely not, and I think you would struggle to find any definition of scam that this could fall under, that's why I was interested to hear your definition.
http://www.onelook.com/?w=scam+artist&ls=a

scam artist ‎(plural scam artists)

A person who attempts to defraud others by presenting a fraudulent offer and pretending that it is legitimate; a con artist.

e.g. if the bottle was full of water, or it was only 500ml overlabelled as 750ml by tesco.


It is €45 in tesco, and reductions can be got on that if buying other wine, bargain alerts has loads of posts about this great deal. I had 5 euro off 25 spend vouchers in the post for the past 3 weeks, and I have 10 euro off 50euro spend lidl vouchers for the next 4 weeks I plan on using there. These can be used along with the 5%

Same bottle of moet is 44.95 in obriens, and that is stating 14% off reduced from 52
https://www.obrienswine.ie/moet-chandon-nv.html

€51 in molloys
https://molloys.ie/moet-et-chandon-brut-imperial-nv-750ml

In the UK it is £26 in tesco and reduced to £25 in 3 other major supermarkets
http://www.mysupermarket.co.uk/tesco-price-comparison/Champagne_And_Sparkling_Wines/Moet_And_Chandon_Brut_Imperial_Non_Vintage_Champagne_750ml.html

This would appear to be price matching, or possibly a reduction from the manufacturer passed onto supermarkets -just like guinness/bud/carlsberg cans drop to around 1 euro in trays at christmas here in many supermarkets. The moet being sold here could well have a far higher purchase price, there may be agreements in place about the selling of it if greatly reduced.

Even if they do pay the exact same, and even if VAT & duty, wages etc etc were all the exact same. I would not describe the business people setting the prices as scam artists if they do not charge the exact same. I would describe them as utter morons to ignore the price all the other retailers here are selling it for locally.

Grolsch is currently €20 for 24x500ml in tesco here, in the UK the cheapest grolsch that can be got is 4x440ml for £3.75.