Smackdown Live TLC Thread

SureYWouldntYa

Okay the Ellsworth heel turn makes sense, he thinks he has AJ's number and wants him to win so his title match will be against him

But why bother coming out then when AJ is heading up the ladder and no sign of life in Ambrose?

sky88

CSF wrote: »

The Ellsworth heel turn really does come under the definition of wrestlecrap doesn't it?

Watched talking smack and his explanation paints him as deluded heel rather then one that makes no sense.

Neil3030

Ugh. When Ellsworth was mega over in the beginning, AJ never secured decent heat by beating the life out of him.

Instead they overexposed Ellsworth to the point that people became sick of him, and inexplicably "turned him heel" by helping a guy everyone loves beat a guy people are meh on.

Yeah that makes sense...

Fair play to JBL during the womens title match.

Becky hits a snap suplex.

Mauro - "A snap suplex like her UK compatriot the Dynamite Kid would do"

JBL "Except Ireland isn't apart of the UK"

Neil3030

Deleted User wrote: »

JBL "Except Ireland isn't apart of the UK"

So what he said was... Ireland IS part of the UK?! :pac:

Neil3030

Neil3030 wrote: »

So what he said was... Ireland IS part of the UK?! :pac:

My grammar can be woeful at times, sorry. Just typing it out quick on my phone while watching the match but you get the point :pac:

Bounty Hunter

So all the heels won then... That was one of the reasons I thought Becky would retain but nope all those faces (Ambrose, Becky, Ziggler, Kalisto, Slater & Rhyno). Actually I guess Nikki won and she is a face but no title there, the titles are now all held by heels eveen some of them are proper over.

Neil3030

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

So all the heels won then... That was one of the reasons I thought Becky would retain but nope all those faces (Ambrose, Becky, Ziggler, Kalisto, Slater & Rhyno). Actually I guess Nikki won and she is a face but no title there, the titles are now all held by heels eveen some of them are proper over.

Tis the season. Autumn is traditionally when the heels all go over so the build can begin toward the Mania moments. They have a pretty old-school-minded young lad booking Smackdown now, don't they?

Mr.Nice Guy

I actually LOVE what they are doing with Ellsworth. At first I feared he was going to go full blown heel with the turn but then I saw the Talking Smack segment - I bash WWE a lot but that was brilliant. I was nearly in tears listening to him explaining himself. I'm loving this.

I saw someone comment 'Ellsworth isn't a heel - he's just an idiot.' That's pretty much where we are right now. He's not a good guy, he's not a bad guy, he's Karl Pilkington basically.

If they keep this up and have him be this naive guy who does unconscionable things I think it will be great. It's almost like a Father Dougal thing - sometimes awful things are done but you can't hate him because his heart was in the right place.

I don't have faith in them keeping this up and it will probably emerge that it was all a nefarious plan on his part and he knew exactly what he was doing but I really, really hope not. Keep him as this adorable yet deluded dimwit.

Lord TSC

Ellsworth outright said on Smackdown why he screwed Ambrose; he's beaten AJ three times, so think he has a better chance of beating him for the title. Thats actually pretty intelligent storytelling, or at least smarter than they usually are.

Meanwhile, Miz vs Bryan II

https://streamable.com/q01o

This HAS to be building towards one last match from Bryan...

J. Marston

Miz is destroying Bryan in those segments consistently. It's really interesting though, where do they go with it? I don't think Bryan will actually get back in the ring. Maybe call up someone from NXT to do his handiwork?

Agent Coulson

Who better for Bryan to have his final match with but the guy he say takes no risks and is safe and doesn't go hard in the ring.


If Bryan has one match left in him and Vince does allow it it's a great build up and storytelling.

WinnyThePoo

I personally can't fathom Bryan getting back into the ring. Though I really like this slow build. Miz's promo after the match was great.
One of my favourite storylines was Bryan and The Miz in NXT.

BMMachine

I honestly forgot this was on

sky88

While becky/Alexa put on a OK match I have to say tables matches are one of the worst stipulations they have

sky88

sky88 wrote: »

While becky/Alexa put on a OK match I have to say tables matches are one of the worst stipulations they have

I only think it works in tag matches were you know 2 - 3 people are going through tables.

CastorTroy

I've decided to just assume there's a PPV every other week now.

Good show.
They really need to teach the refs that there are no countouts in a no DQ match. If anyone should know this it's former TNA senior official Rudy Charles. Was strange that Carmella just told Nikki about Nattie. Guess they just want to move that story along quickly.

Anyone else think Mauro was off his game? He made a llt of mistakes. Not only the comment about Becky and the UK, but during that match alone, he got Beck and Alexa mixed up a few times and even called Alexa "Brook". Then in the TLC, I'm sure when Ellsworth pushed the ladder that he said "What the f*** did Ellsworth do?"

Did find it strange how JBL kept saying it would be Kalisto's defining moment, etc if he beat Corbin. Did he forget that Kalisto used to hold the belt now held by Golden Boy Reigns?

CastorTroy

CastorTroy wrote: »

Anyone else think Mauro was off his game? He made a llt of mistakes. Not only the comment about Becky and the UK, but during that match alone, he got Beck and Alexa mixed up a few times and even called Alexa "Brook". Then in the TLC, I'm sure when Ellsworth pushed the ladder that he said "What the f*** did Ellsworth do?"

He was calling Curt Hawkins Chad Hawkins on the pre show as well.

Agent Coulson

Mauro was shooting down rumours today that he is leaving the WWE so maybe his mind was somewhere else last night.

CastorTroy

May be confusing as well with so many commentators at ringside. Had the 4 English language then 2 or 3 other tables.
Why are there now 4 commentators?

sky88

Deleted User wrote: »

I only think it works in tag matches were you know 2 - 3 people are going through tables.

You could be right. I honestly can't think of one great tables match

CastorTroy

Wasn't it Hardys/Dudleys where they had to put both members of the team through tables in sequence. So if DVon went through then Jeff went through, then they had to put Dvon through again

connemara man

CastorTroy wrote: »

May be confusing as well with so many commentators at ringside. Had the 4 English language then 2 or 3 other tables.
Why are there now 4 commentators?

David Otunga is just that bad they need another voice there

Lithium93_

connemara man wrote: »

David Otunga is just that bad they need another voice there

He just needs to disappear, find him absolutely grating.

aaaaaaaahhhhhh

CastorTroy wrote: »

Wasn't it Hardys/Dudleys where they had to put both members of the team through tables in sequence. So if DVon went through then Jeff went through, then they had to put Dvon through again

I believe that was a Royal Rumble match

Virtanen

Did Tom Phillips even commentate on Sunday? He spoke in between matches but I can't remember him saying a single word during any match

Omackeral

Virtanen wrote: »

Did Tom Phillips even commentate on Sunday? He spoke in between matches but I can't remember him saying a single word during any match

He's introduced as the 'host', whatever that means.

Angron

I really hope Ambrose kills Ellsworth and we never have to see him again. It's just another joke WWE has run into the ground.

Pentecost

Omackeral wrote: »

He's introduced as the 'host', whatever that means.

He reminds me of the hosts in Westworld. The TomPhillips3000 bot.

Agent Coulson

I like Tom