Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

brightspark

kenmc wrote:

Wonder did they stop for a millisecond to use their collective brain cell to think that just maybe, in the first couple days in January, people were availing of the last few available offers, discounts, multibuys etc before it was verboten due to their own fcukin policy being introduced.

Also last January the pubs were still open.

VinLieger

kenmc wrote: »

The fcukin dry sh1te fundamentalist teetotalers are moaning again!

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/off-licence-sales-a-concern-for-alcohol-awareness-group-40147726.html

Wonder did they stop for a millisecond to use their collective brain cell to think that just maybe, in the first couple days in January, people were availing of the last few available offers, discounts, multibuys etc before it was verboten due to their own fcukin policy being introduced.

Absolute imbeciles.

Of course they didnt, they have always manipulated the stats and compared completely different situations for their own NIMBY agenda.


They unfortunately arent imbeciles, but they are arrogant, selfish, fun sponges who see the world in black and white ie any and all alcohol = bad

KungPao

“...awash with cheap drink” are they drunk themselves, coming out with this rubbish?

fonecrusher1

“Minimum-unit pricing is a public health measure. By refusing to implement the democratic will of the Oireachtas, this Government is allowing powerful vested interests to prosper while the lives of thousands of citizens and the futures of many children, who have to navigate the chaos of parental problem alcohol use in their daily lives, continue to be endangered. “

:rolleyes:

Sure it is lads.

Because increasing the price of drink in supermarkets is going to resolve this. Funny. "powerful vested interests" ah the irony....

Total nonsense.

kenmc

KungPao wrote: »

“...awash with cheap drink” are they drunk themselves, coming out with this rubbish?

No, they clearly don't drink themselves. Probably prefer to smoke stuff.

Hotblack Desiato

kenmc wrote: »

The fcukin dry sh1te fundamentalist teetotalers are moaning again!

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/off-licence-sales-a-concern-for-alcohol-awareness-group-40147726.html

Wonder did they stop for a millisecond to use their collective brain cell to think that just maybe, in the first couple days in January, people were availing of the last few available offers, discounts, multibuys etc before it was verboten due to their own fcukin policy being introduced.

Absolute imbeciles.

I'll bet that 57% figure is offies only. Last January pubs and restaurants were open. And since when was "dry January" some sort of social obligation or government policy?

Fcukin' dolts.

VinLieger

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

I'll bet that 57% figure is offies only. Last January pubs and restaurants were open. And since when was "dry January" some sort of social obligation or government policy?

Fcukin' dolts.

Of course it is, how is it surprising that with pubs closed off license sales are up by that much?


They are maliciously disingenuous in their arguments.

ShamNNspace

What a great idea fitting those silly saloon doors at the entrance to the drink section in the middle of a pandemic, another surface for everyone to touch but I guess the joyless alcohol police must have their way and save us from ourselves while they sip on their expensive brandy and €30 bottle of fine wine of an evening..... the supermarkets will have to recoup the price of this nonsense somehow and in a way who could blame them

VinLieger

ShamNNspace wrote: »

What a great idea fitting those silly saloon doors at the entrance to the drink section in the middle of a pandemic, another surface for everyone to touch but I guess the joyless alcohol police must have their way and save us from ourselves while they sip on their expensive brandy and €30 bottle of fine wine of an evening..... the supermarkets will have to recoup the price of this nonsense somehow and in a way who could blame them

They originally wanted curtains similar to the porn sections of video stores they used to have in the US.

Yes lets make alcohol even more secret and mysterious because that wont make children want it above anything else at all.......

KungPao

VinLieger wrote: »

They originally wanted curtains similar to the porn sections of video stores they used to have in the US.

Yes lets make alcohol even more secret and mysterious because that wont make children want it above anything else at all.......

This comes to mind: https://media4.giphy.com/media/3orif1nPKiimFUVYRy/source.gif

If those fools want to live In Qatar, they’re more than welcome to feck off there.

Mr. teddywinkles

VinLieger wrote: »

They originally wanted curtains similar to the porn sections of video stores they used to have in the US.

Yes lets make alcohol even more secret and mysterious because that wont make children want it above anything else at all.......

Imagine walking out through the curtain of shame like some sort of weird perv. Ffs

dirkmeister

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

I'll bet that 57% figure is offies only. Last January pubs and restaurants were open. And since when was "dry January" some sort of social obligation or government policy?

Fcukin' dolts.

Dry January.

A stupid term made up by Insta huns and Facebook w*nkers.

VinLieger

KungPao wrote: »

This comes to mind: https://media4.giphy.com/media/3orif1nPKiimFUVYRy/source.gif

If those fools want to live In Qatar, they’re more than welcome to feck off there.

That is it exactly, i remember describing this exact scene to multiple TDs when the original legislation was being debated.

Also none of them were able to provide an adequate answer to the argument of why this legislation was being enacted to stop people with drinking problems yet everything i know about addiction is those with one don't care about the price it takes to get their fix of choice.

L1011

VinLieger wrote: »

They originally wanted curtains similar to the porn sections of video stores they used to have in the US.

Yes lets make alcohol even more secret and mysterious because that wont make children want it above anything else at all.......

One of the suggested drawings of how you could implement it had "BEER CAVE" on it and drawings of glasses of beer and cocktails etc.

Because that's really not appealing to anyone.

dirkmeister

dirkmeister wrote: »

Dry January.

A stupid term made up by Insta huns and Facebook w*nkers.

A guy in work asked me was I doing Dry January, I felt guilty saying no, then fell over myself explaining I'm not on the sauce everyday as it is.

All round awkward encounter for both of us.

VinLieger

Deleted User wrote: »

A guy in work asked me was I doing Dry January, I felt guilty saying no, then fell over myself explaining I'm not on the sauce everyday as it is.

All round awkward encounter for both of us.

My answer would be along the lines of "Yes im going to stop partaking of one of the very few outlets for enjoyment i have left due to lockdown, that I'm grown up enough to still be able to limit myself to 3-4 drinks a night at the weekend."

Also imo anyone asking a question like that, especially right now, is a pious self important kunt.

VinLieger

VinLieger wrote: »

My answer would be along the lines of "Yes im going to stop partaking of one of the very few outlets for enjoyment i have left due to lockdown, that I'm grown up enough to still be able to limit myself to 3-4 drinks a night at the weekend."

I was new in the company and he was just making conversation. It was also before lockdown had been heard of.

It does make me wonder are we going to enter into a period of drink-shaming. Especially during January.

That irritating advert for 0.0% beer springs to mind where she's dancing round the gym and everyone is shocked looking at her having a beer in the gym. She then reveals it's 0% alcohol.

I used to go to a gym in Czech Republic and they sold regular beer in the gym. No shaming there.

Antares35

VinLieger wrote: »

They originally wanted curtains similar to the porn sections of video stores they used to have in the US.

Yes lets make alcohol even more secret and mysterious because that wont make children want it above anything else at all.......

Also, when did it become the responsibility of society as a whole rather than individual parents to prevent their kids growing up as drunks? This new "think of the children" thing is just bonkers. Why must everything be hidden in case they see it? I remember a few years ago, Tesco put Ribena behind the counter in case kids saw it and wanted it and lost all their feckin teeth. Is it too much to expect the parent to say, "no, you can't have it"? Do we all have to live in a nanny state because Johnny's ego will be permanently damaged if he hears the word no

Antares35

Antares35 wrote: »

Also, when did it become the responsibility of society as a whole rather than individual parents to prevent their kids growing up as drunks? This new "think of the children" thing is just bonkers. Why must everything be hidden in case they see it? I remember a few years ago, Tesco put Ribena behind the counter in case kids saw it and wanted it and lost all their feckin teeth. Is it too much to expect the parent to say, "no, you can't have it"? Do we all have to live in a nanny state because Johnny's ego will be permanently damaged if he hears the word no

I've been working from home for almost the last 51 weeks. I started WFH on March 12th. During that time I've gotten a glimpse into people lives during MS Teams meetings and so I can tell you there are lots of people out there who don't say no to their kids for anything.

One guy I had a daily meeting with would have his 3 year old in the room with Paw Patrol on in the background. I acknowledge it's not his only meeting of the day, but he could pause(paws it, boom boom) or say to the kid "Daddy has an important meeting now, sit quietly there for a few minutes and then you can watch Paw Patrol". But no, not once.

I know this is a bit off topic, but from what I have seen, many parents now don't say no to their kids at all any more.

Hotblack Desiato

Deleted User wrote: »

That irritating advert for 0.0% beer springs to mind where she's dancing round the gym and everyone is shocked looking at her having a beer in the gym. She then reveals it's 0% alcohol.

I used to go to a gym in Czech Republic and they sold regular beer in the gym. No shaming there.

Can't remember the last time I watched an advert on TV :pac: but however

0% beer is just empty calories. At least a normal beer has some benefit attached to those calories

Deleted User wrote: »

I know this is a bit off topic, but from what I have seen, many parents now don't say no to their kids at all any more.

Christ... can you imagine what they'll grow up into? :eek:

Hotblack Desiato

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Christ... can you imagine what they'll grow up into? :eek:

Yeah, like the kids in my estate. Everyone seems oblivious to the noise they make.

Im not saying kids should be seen and not heard, but I shouldnt be woken up, or unable to sleep when I am 3 floors above where they are with my windows closed. That is kids being too loud. Can we all agree on that?

Antares35

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Christ... can you imagine what they'll grow up into? :eek:

Aye, I've a cousin who is part of the purist parenting cohort. The sort of breastfeed them til they're ten, don't vaccinate, knit your own nappy brigade. She refuses to place any restrictions on her kids. They're homeschooled, have no set bed/ waking time, they eat what and when they want. Can't imagine how they're going to act out when the world tells them no.

Zebra3

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

Deleted User wrote: »

It does make me wonder are we going to enter into a period of drink-shaming.

Let me reassure you, we are not.

dubrov

Zebra3 wrote: »

Let me reassure you, we are not.

Shame on you

Thelonious Monk

Just announced that alcohol consumption in Ireland has reduced by a few % on RTE drivetime and had some dickhead from Alcohol Action Ireland on saying on no we still definitely need it blah blah blah.
They didn't question him on it at all and had no one from any other side of the argument discussing the topic. Talk about biased media, but then every single member of the Dail voted in favour and RTE are pretty much the voice of the Oireachtas.

SEPT 23 1989

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Just announced that alcohol consumption in Ireland has reduced by a few % on RTE drivetime and had some dickhead from Alcohol Action Ireland on saying on no we still definitely need it blah blah blah.
They didn't question him on it at all and had no one from any other side of the argument discussing the topic. Talk about biased media, but then every single member of the Dail voted in favour and RTE are pretty much the voice of the Oireachtas.

Mr Alcohol Action said in his esteemed opinion people would not travel up north to buy drink

what planet is he on?

Thelonious Monk

Its really unfair to only have that twats opinion being aired

Hotblack Desiato

‘Ocean of alcohol’ pouring into Irish homes since Covid-19 pandemic

An “ocean of alcohol” has been pouring into Irish homes since the start of the Covid-19 crisis with official data showing wine sales for home consumption increasing dramatically last year, according to Alcohol Action Ireland (AAI).

The advocacy group, which has the stated aim of reducing alcohol harm in Ireland, expressed its disappointment at official figures pointing to a marginal decline in alcohol consumption in 2020 despite the fact that access to pubs, clubs and restaurants was curtailed for much of the year.

They're disappointed that alcohol consumption has gone down???

Fresh data published by Revenue this week suggests that alcohol consumption was 10.06 litres per capita in 2020, down 6 per cent on the 10.78 litres consumed a year earlier.

Absolute fcuking snakes.

Hotblack Desiato

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

‘Ocean of alcohol’ pouring into Irish homes since Covid-19 pandemic



They're disappointed that alcohol consumption has gone down???



Absolute fcuking snakes.

An ocean of alcohol - Alcohol Action Ireland
But consumption is down 6% on the previous year - Alcohol Action Ireland

-=al=-

I didn’t think they’d ever top “awash with cheap drink”, but they well and truly smashed it

Truly impressive

How about them mentioning that the Dáil bar is awash with unpaid bar tabs after an ocean of Guinness was depleted by the boys