Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

Ohmeha

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

‘Ocean of alcohol’ pouring into Irish homes since Covid-19 pandemic



They're disappointed that alcohol consumption has gone down???

Of course they are disappointed in the reduction of alcohol consumption during 2020 because it has exposed their repeated bare faced lies in their campaign on "cheap alcohol" from supermarkets is exclusively fuelling alcohol consumption and a public health crisis.

Their desired ideals of expensive alcohol availability in pubs/restaurants has been dramatically curtailed in 2020 so the dreaded only alternative for the public of "cheap alcohol" from supermarkets statistically has turned out pretty well for the public's health by their original metric

Geuze

A friend tells me once Level 5 is over, he plans to buy any spirits/wine/beer in NI (which he visits anyways a few times a year).

This is a specific response to the regulations introduced in Jan 2021.

Sheep Shagger

Good to see the new rules have done nothing to pricing really - picked up 24 cans of the black stuff in Lidl for €20

elperello

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Good to see the new rules have done nothing to pricing really - picked up 24 cans of the black stuff in Lidl for €20

Just worth pointing out that the new rules so far don't include Minimum Unit Pricing (MUP).

The drinks trade are still competing with each other so for now we consumers can still benefit.

MUP will introduce a base price below which no retailer will be allowed to go.

That's when we will be snookered.

buried

'Alcohol Action Ireland' lol

The last thing a parasitical entity such as a NGO like 'Alcohol Action Ireland' wants is any sort of change happening within the area they are whinging and moaning about because that means the gravy NGO money train is over for them.

KrustyUCC

Love that a 6% reduction in consumption is called marginal

If consumption increase 6% I don't think Eunan McKinney would be calling that marginal

odyssey06

Please sir, where is this ocean of cheap alcohol.
I have looked high and low and not found it.

Kermit.de.frog

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

A lot of denial in Ireland as to the country's alcohol problems.

Happy to see the fall and hopefully it's part of a cultural change.

ohnonotgmail

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

A lot of denial in Ireland as to the country's alcohol problems.

Happy to see the fall and hopefully it's part of a cultural change.

its not.

Kermit.de.frog

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

its not.

It should be.

Geuze

Geuze wrote: »

A friend tells me once Level 5 is over, he plans to buy any spirits/wine/beer in NI (which he visits anyways a few times a year).

This is a specific response to the regulations introduced in Jan 2021.

The savings are phenomenal. If you get a decent stock up, the difference pays for the fuel and gives you change back.

Just a quick comparison there, the same wine that costs 9.99 here in Lidl costs you 6.99 in the North. Thats a 3 euro saving on just one bottle of wine.

odyssey06

So just noting on the booze bargain alerts thread, LIDL have a bit of a loophole for the new legislation on offers having to run for 4 days.
If the product wasn't available for sale on the day before, the rule doesn't apply.
So LIDL are bringing out stock like slabs that they don't normally stock, and then selling it out in 1 day.

Hotblack Desiato

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Happy to see the fall and hopefully it's part of a cultural change.

Duh. Alcohol consumption has been falling steadily here for about 20 years.

listermint

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Duh. Alcohol consumption has been falling steadily here for about 20 years.

no no go away with the facts the zealots will have nothing to crib about constantly since this thread was open.

If its not sticking their nose in peoples lifes like this its sticking them in womens private parts to tell them how to run their bodies.

Theyre like a classic whos who of busy bodies.

Kermit.de.frog

I disagree, the "drinking problems" are myths from the government.

Pointing out Ireland has serious alcohol issues make you a zealot? ha

It's true.

runawaybishop

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Pointing out Ireland has serious alcohol issues make you a zealot? ha

It's true.

Some people have serious problems sure. Its a fact that we are mid table for consumption, its been dropping for decades, and minimum procing doesn't work.

ohnonotgmail

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

It should be.

wishing and hoping will not make it so. Neither will MUP.

Snickers Man

buried wrote: »

'Alcohol Action Ireland' lol

The last thing a parasitical entity such as a NGO like 'Alcohol Action Ireland' wants is any sort of change happening within the area they are whinging and moaning about because that means the gravy NGO money train is over for them.

Defund Alcohol Action Ireland NOW!!!!!

Moderate Drinkers' Social Lives Matter!!!!

Yellow_Fern

The TRSI posdcast has good coverage of this https://gript.ie/podcasts/trsi-206-and-not-a-drop-to-drink/

L1011

Is it published by Gript, just hosted by them or just linked from there?

Gript do not deserve any clicks or listens.

Fr Tod Umptious

Deleted User wrote: »

An ocean of alcohol - Alcohol Action Ireland
But consumption is down 6% on the previous year - Alcohol Action Ireland

As I've said before one of the greatest things about this thread is the hyperbole.

People claiming they'll never enter a pub again out of protest.
People calling MUP probation.
People saying they will never vote for so and so again.

But it seems like AAI are getting in on the fun with this "Oceans of alcohol" stuff.
Seriously like.

dubrov

Fr Tod Umptious wrote:

People claiming they'll never enter a pub again out of protest. People calling MUP probation. People saying they will never vote for so and so again.

If the three above, the third one is realistic

Atlantic Dawn

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Love that a 6% reduction in consumption is called marginal

If consumption increase 6% I don't think Eunan McKinney would be calling that marginal

If the economy contracted by 6% we would be in massive recession.

Yellow_Fern

L1011 wrote: »

Is it published by Gript, just hosted by them or just linked from there?

Gript do not deserve any clicks or listens.

Why not?

redarmyblues

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

Why not?

They occupy that funny Venn diagram where anti-vaxxing, anti-masking and rosary beads intersect in Irish.

Yellow_Fern

redarmyblues wrote: »

They occupy that funny Venn diagram where anti-vaxxing, anti-masking and rosary beads intersect in Irish.

You are completely wrong. Here are three articles chiding the Government for vaccinating too slowly, 1, 2 and 3. They are also pro mask, sure they were promoting masks in March 2020 when the Gov was not just advising against masks but even advising doctors not to wear them. They also have been covering minimum unit pricing and vaping very fairly and I urge you to shed your bias against them.

Suckit

Yellow_Fern wrote: »

You are completely wrong. Here are three articles chiding the Government for vaccinating too slowly, 1, 2 and 3. They are also pro mask, sure they were promoting masks in March 2020 when the Gov was not just advising against masks but even advising doctors not to wear them. They also have been covering minimum unit pricing and vaping very fairly and I urge you to shed your bias against them.

I doubt anybody in this thread gives a single toss about that.

Best mention it over there

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Capt'n Midnight

People can no longer binge drink all night in crowded pubs.
They are forced to buy cheaper supermarket alcohol instead.

And consumption has dropped by 6%.

VinLieger

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

A lot of denial in Ireland as to the country's alcohol problems.

Happy to see the fall and hopefully it's part of a cultural change.

The cultural change started happening in the mid noughties when our consumption began dropping and has continued to do so year over year since then. Its just many people like yourself who don't think people should be allowed enjoy themselves in the freedom of their own homes have an agenda they have based their careers on that still needs to be pushed.

hatrickpatrick

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Pointing out Ireland has serious alcohol issues make you a zealot? ha

It's true.

Of course it doesn't. Pushing to change it through coercive social engineering, on the other hand, absolutely does.